Re: [PHP-DEV] Who vote for this? (was Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags)

2002-04-27 Thread Markus Fischer
Hi, Rasmus gave quiet a few examples as others did. I suggest reading through the mails posted the lasty days about this topic. - Markus On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 07:50:38AM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : > I really don't understand why we should keep short_tag=on. This > implie

[PHP-DEV] Who vote for this? (was Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags)

2002-04-27 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
I really don't understand why we should keep short_tag=on. This implies we have following _standard_ and _portable_ syntax for all XML documents preprocessed by PHP. ' ?> Who vote for this _standard_ and _portable_ syntax? Don't forget to write why this syntax is good, look great, etc. -- Yasu

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-27 Thread Stefan Esser
Hi, Removing the short tags from future php releases, or disabling them by default, is like stripping functions from glibc because they do not exist on other platforms. Stefan -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-27 Thread php4
** Reply to note from Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 27 Apr 2002 05:52:11 +0300 > > I don't think we should do it in PHP 5 either. I strongly agree! Rick Rick Widmer Internet Marketing Specialists http://www.developersdesk.com -- PHP Development Mailing List

RE: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-27 Thread Lukas Smith
; Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:05 PM > To: Yasuo Ohgaki; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags > > Addressed to: Yasuo Ohgaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ** Reply to note from Yasuo Ohgaki <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread Dan Hardiker
I too (given a voice) would be against changing this default. -- Dan Hardiker [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ADAM Software & Systems Engineer First Creative Ltd >> >> >> Use of short tags is strongly discouraged. It is disabled by default >> from PHP 4.3.0. Short tags are not only non-portable, but

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 04:41 27/04/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > > Use of short tags is strongly discouraged. It is disabled by default > from PHP 4.3.0. Short tags are not only non-portable, but also non-XML > compliant. > > I object. I don't see an overwhelming reason to disable short tags by default,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> > > Use of short tags is strongly discouraged. It is disabled by default > from PHP 4.3.0. Short tags are not only non-portable, but also non-XML > compliant. > > Disabling it by default has not been agreed upon. I am against changing this default. -Rasmus -- PHP Development Ma

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Addressed to: Yasuo Ohgaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ** Reply to note from Yasuo Ohgaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 27 Apr 2002 07:47:08 >+0900 > >> >>I've changed basic-syntax.xml a little. The manual list short tag first, >>even if it r

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread php4
Addressed to: Yasuo Ohgaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Reply to note from Yasuo Ohgaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 27 Apr 2002 07:47:08 +0900 > > I've changed basic-syntax.xml a little. The manual list short tag first, > even if it recommends > Anyway, I would like

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread Jani Taskinen
While you're at it..add a note that the short tag stuff is disabled by default in php.ini-* starting from 4.3.0. --Jani On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >I've changed basic-syntax.xml a little. The manual >list short tag first, even if it recommends >Anyway, I woul

Re: [PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Please qualify this correctly. There is nothing wrong with using short-tags for code that is always going to live on servers you have full control over. Simply explain the drawbacks instead of this scare tactic. And no, it is not an obsolete feature that is going to go away. -Rasmus On Sat, 27

[PHP-DEV] Discourage use of short tags

2002-04-26 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
I've changed basic-syntax.xml a little. The manual list short tag first, even if it recommends Use of short tag is strongly discouraged. It not only non-portable and non-XML compliant, but also a obsolete feature. There are too many hosting services that enable short tag by default.