[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RE: ; arg seperator

[Zeev Suraski]

At 23:04 3/4/2001, Joey Smith wrote:
> I've never bought into this argument, because these companies
>can include a "config.php", or something like that, which uses
>ini_set() to set up the INI file however they need it...

ini_set() is run after the input parsing is already done, so it won't help 
in this case.  Only .htaccess or equivalent.


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[Zeev Suraski]

At 22:52 3/4/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
>lets follow the "break it hard, break it early" rule here ...

It's kind of difficult to do that now, that this behavior has been around 
for the last 4 years :)  It'll never be early.

Zeev


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[Zeev Suraski]

I don't think it's a very good idea.  I think that crossposting in mailing 
list such as php-dev and php-qa makes perfect sense, because of the 
significant (yet far from 100%) overlap between the two lists.  You could 
just get your filters to filter out duplicate letters (there's a good 
procmail recipe for doing that automatically).

Zeev

At 13:46 4/4/2001, Hellekin O. Wolf wrote:
>At 00:54 04/04/2001 +0200, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Please stop crossposting to the PHP-DEV and the PHP-QA mailing list. Most
>> > people interesting in this theme are reading both. And so it is really
>> > annoying to get everything twice.
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>>a bad idea IMHO as long as the topic is related to both lists as
>>this will break the thread in the archives for one of the lists
>>
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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[Hartmut Holzgraefe]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Please stop crossposting to the PHP-DEV and the PHP-QA mailing list. Most
> people interesting in this theme are reading both. And so it is really
> annoying to get everything twice.

a bad idea IMHO as long as the topic is related to both lists as
this will break the thread in the archives for one of the lists

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[eschmid+sic]

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 11:37:59PM +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> At 03:18 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
> >Speaking of this, I think we need to collect all of these types of
> >issues that are waiting for a "4.1" release somewhere, so we can get a
> >clear idea of when 4.1 is appropriate. Anyone know of any off-hand? If
> >not, I can go search the archives...
> 
> In any case it is a good idea to make a list of these issues. I can't 
> remember off hand what issues we had so I hope people have a better memory 
> than me :)

Please stop crossposting to the PHP-DEV and the PHP-QA mailing list. Most
people interesting in this theme are reading both. And so it is really
annoying to get everything twice. 

My two US$ :)

-Egon

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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[James Moore]

> Same here. I know there's a few things like this out there...I am going
> to bed now. If no one else has done it before I wake, I'll start doing
> some digging.
> 
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote the following to Joey 
> Smith, PHP...:
> 
> > At 03:18 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
> > >Speaking of this, I think we need to collect all of these types of
> > >issues that are waiting for a "4.1" release somewhere, so we can get a
> > >clear idea of when 4.1 is appropriate. Anyone know of any off-hand? If
> > >not, I can go search the archives...
> > 
> > In any case it is a good idea to make a list of these issues. I can't 
> > remember off hand what issues we had so I hope people have a 
> better memory 
> > than me :)

Function renaming was the other.

James

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[Joey Smith]

Same here. I know there's a few things like this out there...I am going
to bed now. If no one else has done it before I wake, I'll start doing
some digging.

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote the following to Joey Smith, PHP...:

> At 03:18 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
> >Speaking of this, I think we need to collect all of these types of
> >issues that are waiting for a "4.1" release somewhere, so we can get a
> >clear idea of when 4.1 is appropriate. Anyone know of any off-hand? If
> >not, I can go search the archives...
> 
> In any case it is a good idea to make a list of these issues. I can't 
> remember off hand what issues we had so I hope people have a better memory 
> than me :)
> 
> Andi
> 
> 
> 


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[Andi Gutmans]

At 03:18 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
>Speaking of this, I think we need to collect all of these types of
>issues that are waiting for a "4.1" release somewhere, so we can get a
>clear idea of when 4.1 is appropriate. Anyone know of any off-hand? If
>not, I can go search the archives...

In any case it is a good idea to make a list of these issues. I can't 
remember off hand what issues we had so I hope people have a better memory 
than me :)

Andi


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[Andi Gutmans]

At 02:46 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
>Just wanted to toss in my .02 here...
>
>Anyone who wrote scripts in the past expecting: foo.php?a=1;2;3 to get
>"$a=1;2;3" was relying on a bug, or at the very LEAST an undocumented
>feature. So if it goes away, it goes away. It should never have worked
>to begin with, IMHO...

Why? It was documented that & was the separator.


>This doesn't mean it won't bite some people, but that's never been a
>problem before in cases of undocumented features.

I don't think it was undocumented.

Andi


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

[Hartmut Holzgraefe]

Joey Smith wrote:
> 
> Just wanted to toss in my .02 here...
> 
> Anyone who wrote scripts in the past expecting: foo.php?a=1;2;3 to get
> "$a=1;2;3" was relying on a bug, or at the very LEAST an undocumented
> feature. So if it goes away, it goes away. It should never have worked
> to begin with, IMHO...
> 
> This doesn't mean it won't bite some people, but that's never been a
> problem before in cases of undocumented features.

and as long as it can be switched back to old behavior 
via an ini parameter it should be ok IMHO 

yes, it *will* break some scripts and people *will* complain
but as long as it is documented in NEWS it isn't our fault

lets follow the "break it hard, break it early" rule here ...



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