Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-22 Thread Tomas V.V.Cox
Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: I think gettext module is also a good one to be enabled by default or recommend users strongly. well, as everything depending on setlocale() or putenv(LANG=...) is *not* threadsafe this might be a not-so-good

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-22 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Note in the manual page says setlocale() is not required, so I was supposing it's not needed. Anyway, it seems it's been modified recently and I haven't use gettext for long time. Need some research. It uses process-global settings to determine the language to use, so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread derick
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Garland Foster wrote: I have a strong feeling that it would be a very good idea to ship PHP (*nix and Win) with some native, BUNDLED support for some DBM-files format. It can be very nice to have a native set of DBM-like functions available in PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Garland Foster wrote: I have a strong feeling that it would be a very good idea to ship PHP (*nix and Win) with some native, BUNDLED support for some DBM-files format. It can be very nice to have a native set of DBM-like

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: I think gettext module is also a good one to be enabled by default or recommend users strongly. well, as everything depending on setlocale() or putenv(LANG=...) is *not* threadsafe this might be a not-so-good idea right now ... -- Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: It relies on an external library, so that won't be a good thing. gettext is not available for every platform, and we are not going to bundle it. I agree. Bundling everything is not good. it's even more tricky in case of gettext, as its functions are available as a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Garland foster
: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Garland Foster wrote: I have a strong feeling that it would be a very good idea to ship PHP (*nix and Win) with some native, BUNDLED support for some DBM-files format. It can be very nice

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Jedi/Sector One
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:37:15AM -0300, Garland foster wrote: What about the native DBM support? Nobody answered that part. And what about SQLite? Porting existing PHP scripts (designed for MySQL or PostgreSQL) to SQLite is easy. -- __ /*- Frank DENIS (Jedi/Sector One) [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread derick
] To: Yasuo Ohgaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Garland Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Garland Foster wrote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Garland foster
21, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support. On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:37:15AM -0300, Garland foster wrote: What about the native DBM support? Nobody answered that part. And what about SQLite? Porting existing PHP scripts (designed for MySQL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread derick
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: [...] It relies on an external library, so that won't be a good thing. gettext is not available for every platform, and we are not going to bundle it. I agree. Bundling everything is not good. Bundling anything is not good :) We cannot rely on

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread derick
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Jedi/Sector One wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:37:15AM -0300, Garland foster wrote: What about the native DBM support? Nobody answered that part. And what about SQLite? Porting existing PHP scripts (designed for MySQL or PostgreSQL) to SQLite is easy. And what

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Lukas Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Garland foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jedi/Sector One Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support. I agree

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Christian Stocker
/Sector One Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support. I agree that you can't bundle everything that might be useful, I just thought that an official native form of DB support may be useful for webmasters and developers

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Garland foster
PROTECTED] To: 'PHP Developers Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support. Hi Maybe Jonas' opinion about SQLlite and php is of interest in this discussion (was today on pear-dev) see http://marc.theaimsgroup.com

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we recommend, many hosting service providers may start supporting it. I would like to see some kind of installation standard or recommendataion for script portability. That's why I cross posted this to evangelism lists. If you want to have portablity, then all

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-21 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: I think gettext module is also a good one to be enabled by default or recommend users strongly. well, as everything depending on setlocale() or putenv(LANG=...) is *not* threadsafe this might be a not-so-good idea right now ... Note in

[PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.

2002-06-20 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Garland Foster wrote: I have a strong feeling that it would be a very good idea to ship PHP (*nix and Win) with some native, BUNDLED support for some DBM-files format. It can be very nice to have a native set of DBM-like functions available in PHP no matter the operating system or how PHP