If I pass a reference to an object and assign that to a class property. Shouldn't the property be a reference back to the original variable's value instead of a copy? Here is some sample code to illustrate my small confusion. <?php class Testie { var $error; function Testie() { } } class Tester { var $testie; function Tester(&$testie) // <-- passing object by reference { $this->testie = $testie; // <--- I must put an & again if I want this to be a reference even though // I already passed a reference } } $t = new Testie(); $a = new Tester(&$t); $a->testie->error = "Hello 123"; $t->error = "GoodBye 123"; print "A::error ".$a->testie->error."\n"; print "T::error $t->error\n"; ?> // with the & A::error GoodBye 123 T::error GoodBye 123 // Without the & A::error Hello 123 T::error GoodBye 123 I suppose this is intended behavior and my laziness is getting the better of me? Chris Newbill OneWest.net Inc., Programmer/Analyst 406.449.8056 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /* Windows crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. */ -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]