Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
At 19:47 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: If that language had interested me, I would have made my Hebraicum in addition to the Latinum. [snip off-topic] ^^^ You're kidding, right? Thankfully, your interest in young languages does not concern me, nor does your show-off behavior, so I couldn't care less about your choice of words. The rest of your stuff has been answered off list, to bring this stupid thread to a halt. Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Zeev, you start to bore me. If you didn't notice it yet, yesterday's email already constituted my EOT contribution. So, now, explicitly for you, EOT. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
At 20:52 30/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: Zeev, you start to bore me. Thank God, I was hoping you were already being bored as much as I am for the past 4 years of pointless discussions with you, but better late than never! Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Sascha, we need to give you something constructive to work on... -Rasmus (top-posted with lots of quoted text just for you) If it brings Bad E-Mail Practices to the attention of the perps, I would consider it constructive. Sascha is not the only one annoyed by issues like bad quoting behaviour. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 11:46 29/12/2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Sascha, we need to give you something constructive to work on... -Rasmus (top-posted with lots of quoted text just for you) If it brings Bad E-Mail Practices to the attention of the perps, I would consider it constructive. Sascha is not the only one annoyed by issues like bad quoting behaviour. As with PHP's featureset, php-dev is not a purists' place. To each his own, we're not going to start applying quoting etiquette or calculate percentages. Zeev, get off the high horse. Jesus, a majestatis pluralis! Or do you still think you can make decisions for everyone? - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
At 19:21 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 11:46 29/12/2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Sascha, we need to give you something constructive to work on... -Rasmus (top-posted with lots of quoted text just for you) If it brings Bad E-Mail Practices to the attention of the perps, I would consider it constructive. Sascha is not the only one annoyed by issues like bad quoting behaviour. As with PHP's featureset, php-dev is not a purists' place. To each his own, we're not going to start applying quoting etiquette or calculate percentages. Zeev, get off the high horse. Jesus, a majestatis pluralis! As much as it is amusing, tihiye besheket vetafsik lehishtamesh beLatinit. Or do you still think you can make decisions for everyone? So far, it appears you're the one who woke up on the wrong side of bed one day and decided to go out with a noble quest to change the world for everyone, and calculate just by how much you would change it, too. If you intend to start applying your rules to email traffic on php-dev, all I can say is, try it next millennium (if you actually read the messages and not just analyze them with your pathetic script, maybe you would notice that that is what I said). I'm fine with the way things are, and that's the last breath I'll spend on this not-very-intelligent topic. I'll respond to your actions as necessary. Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
As much as it is amusing, tihiye besheket vetafsik lehishtamesh beLatinit. If that language had interested me, I would have made my Hebraicum in addition to the Latinum. [snip off-topic] If it has not been clear to you or anyone else -- this has all been about drawing attention to the issues of proper quoting. If only one person starts to embrace some of the available guidelines, it has been well worth it. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Hello, I assume that we've all understood that point now. Can you(we) now stop wasting your(our) time and use it to something better? Yea, like learning Hebraicum or... -- Regards. M.CHAILLAN Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.WorldAKT.com Hébergement de sites internets. Sascha Schumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As much as it is amusing, tihiye besheket vetafsik lehishtamesh beLatinit. If that language had interested me, I would have made my Hebraicum in addition to the Latinum. [snip off-topic] If it has not been clear to you or anyone else -- this has all been about drawing attention to the issues of proper quoting. If only one person starts to embrace some of the available guidelines, it has been well worth it. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Sascha Schumann wrote: If that language had interested me, I would have made my Hebraicum in addition to the Latinum. The Hebraicum would be of no use here, because it covers Old Hebrew. I just showed this to my father and he could not get any sense out of it :-) -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Nah. Can we please put down the swords and start talking about PHP5? -Original Message- From: Sascha Schumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:47 PM To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Sebastian Bergmann; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed As much as it is amusing, tihiye besheket vetafsik lehishtamesh beLatinit. If that language had interested me, I would have made my Hebraicum in addition to the Latinum. [snip off-topic] If it has not been clear to you or anyone else -- this has all been about drawing attention to the issues of proper quoting. If only one person starts to embrace some of the available guidelines, it has been well worth it. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
After looking at a few messages again, I noticed that my script also considered signatures (personal and the mailing list's) as original lines. Once these are kicked out, we see a far worse picture (the ratios almost double): 1%: = 34.60 5%: = 12.50 10%: = 6.75 15%: = 4.50 And the top 10 again (messages with a ratio = 3): Jani Taskinen avg of 18.86 in 3 postings John Coggeshallavg of 14.12 in 10 postings Xavier Spriet avg of 12.71 in 8 postings Ilia A.avg of 12.22 in 7 postings Marcus Börger avg of 12.03 in 22 postings George Schlossnagleavg of 11.78 in 4 postings Moriyoshi Koizumi avg of 10.44 in 14 postings Andi Gutmans avg of 10.22 in 22 postings Markus Fischer avg of 9.42 in 5 postings Wez Furlongavg of 8.97 in 4 postings - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Sascha, we need to give you something constructive to work on... -Rasmus (top-posted with lots of quoted text just for you) On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: After looking at a few messages again, I noticed that my script also considered signatures (personal and the mailing list's) as original lines. Once these are kicked out, we see a far worse picture (the ratios almost double): 1%: = 34.60 5%: = 12.50 10%: = 6.75 15%: = 4.50 And the top 10 again (messages with a ratio = 3): Jani Taskinen avg of 18.86 in 3 postings John Coggeshallavg of 14.12 in 10 postings Xavier Spriet avg of 12.71 in 8 postings Ilia A.avg of 12.22 in 7 postings Marcus Börger avg of 12.03 in 22 postings George Schlossnagleavg of 11.78 in 4 postings Moriyoshi Koizumi avg of 10.44 in 14 postings Andi Gutmans avg of 10.22 in 22 postings Markus Fischer avg of 9.42 in 5 postings Wez Furlongavg of 8.97 in 4 postings - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
You grabbed the words from my throat :) Zeev At 20:36 28/12/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Sascha, we need to give you something constructive to work on... -Rasmus (top-posted with lots of quoted text just for you) On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: After looking at a few messages again, I noticed that my script also considered signatures (personal and the mailing list's) as original lines. Once these are kicked out, we see a far worse picture (the ratios almost double): 1%: = 34.60 5%: = 12.50 10%: = 6.75 15%: = 4.50 And the top 10 again (messages with a ratio = 3): Jani Taskinen avg of 18.86 in 3 postings John Coggeshallavg of 14.12 in 10 postings Xavier Spriet avg of 12.71 in 8 postings Ilia A.avg of 12.22 in 7 postings Marcus Börger avg of 12.03 in 22 postings George Schlossnagleavg of 11.78 in 4 postings Moriyoshi Koizumi avg of 10.44 in 14 postings Andi Gutmans avg of 10.22 in 22 postings Markus Fischer avg of 9.42 in 5 postings Wez Furlongavg of 8.97 in 4 postings - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Only a fool would decry the importance of effective communication. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Give us a break. And spare me an intelligent explanation about why we're fools and you roolz, and why we don't deserve a break. Only a fool would blow such an idiotic thing out of proportion. Zeev At 00:23 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: Only a fool would decry the importance of effective communication. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: Give us a break. And spare me an intelligent explanation about why we're fools and you roolz, and why we don't deserve a break. Only a fool would blow such an idiotic thing out of proportion. I ran a script and posted the results -- why is that out of proportion? - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
At 00:48 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: Give us a break. And spare me an intelligent explanation about why we're fools and you roolz, and why we don't deserve a break. Only a fool would blow such an idiotic thing out of proportion. I ran a script and posted the results -- why is that out of proportion? Read back your (as usual) condescending remarks, and the entire thread. You're a smart guy, figure it out! Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Read back your (as usual) condescending remarks, and the entire thread. You're a smart guy, figure it out! Well, I would appreciate an answer on why this thing is 'idiotic' and 'out of proportion'. Please enlighten my poor soul, dear Zeev! - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
At 00:52 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: Read back your (as usual) condescending remarks, and the entire thread. You're a smart guy, figure it out! Well, I would appreciate an answer on why this thing is 'idiotic' and 'out of proportion'. Please enlighten my poor soul, dear Zeev! I did my best to enlighten your poor soul in the past, numerous times, but I at some point I realized it's beyond my reach. Knowing one's limits is a virtue, and I know mine, so you're on your own! Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
I did my best to enlighten your poor soul in the past, numerous times, but I at some point I realized it's beyond my reach. Knowing one's limits is a virtue, and I know mine, so you're on your own! As enjoyable as always, - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Wow... top 10. And to think my guidance counselor said I would never amount to anything . And the top 10 again (messages with a ratio = 3): ... George Schlossnagleavg of 11.78 in 4 postings ... -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, George Schlossnagle wrote: Wow... top 10. And to think my guidance counselor said I would never amount to anything And if it has not been obvious, the top 10 should be taken with a grain of salt. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Guess I should add visible sarcasm/sarcasm tokens in the future, eh? And if it has not been obvious, the top 10 should be taken with a grain of salt. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, George Schlossnagle wrote: Guess I should add visible sarcasm/sarcasm tokens in the future, eh? Those are called tags, remember the importance of effective communication! Derick -- - Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ PHP Magazine - PHP Magazine for Professionals http://php-mag.net/ - -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, George Schlossnagle wrote: Guess I should add visible sarcasm/sarcasm tokens in the future, eh? Not really, I just wanted to point that out explicitly for the benefit of the rest. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed
Then my hopes for also being on the top 10 list of correct users of nomenclature are shot. Those are called tags, remember the importance of effective communication! -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
