Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: So imagemagick would be less popular than, say, Ovrimos, YAZ(eesh), SESAM, Crédit Mutuel CyberMUT... no, I don't remember saying these belonged in PHP's CVS, they are there for a large part imho legacy reasons and laziness (ie, not enough bitching when they were proprosed). ok, I give up ;) You're right, if you say, that not sooo many extensions should be in the core php4 distribution. It makes the Release process somehow complicated... But unfortunately the pear-framework is at the moment not very sophisticated for handling traditional php-extension. But I will put some of my effort into that and hope the pear-folks will agree :) chregu -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
Title: RE: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd) ok, I give up ;) You're right, if you say, that not sooo many extensions should be in the core php4 distribution. It makes the Release process somehow complicated... But unfortunately the pear-framework is at the moment not very sophisticated for handling traditional php-extension. But I will put some of my effort into that and hope the pear-folks will agree :) Any effort to PEAR is a good thing. I think it could be a real boon to PHP users once the framework gets the smarts. I think PEAR has spent too much time on the backburner and hasn't had nearly enough exposure. Im sure some folks who've used PHP for years know very little about it, which is a real shame. Mike Robinson IT / Developer - Toronto Star TV Phone: 416.945.8786 Fax: 416.869.4566 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.torontostartv.com - Webcasting Production http://www.tmgtv.ca - Hometown Television http://www.thestar.com - Canadas largest daily newspaper, The Toronto Star, online -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:22:12 +0100, derick wrote: Let it do to the list then ... On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Christian Stocker wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Egon Schmid wrote: From: Christian Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote further on my ImageMagick extension (still a lot missing), but most importantly i wrote some documentation. You can have a look at it at http://php.chregu.tv/imagick/ comments etc. always welcome. Looks good. Please commit it to phpdoc and make your updates there. mmh, as the extension is not in the php-source tree at the moment, it doesn't make sense to check it in into phpdoc. Or am I wrong about that? But as soon as ext/imagick is in the cvs (if...), I will commit my documentation to phpdoc as well. Did you request a cvs account already? IMO this would be a fine extension. However, i think it should move to the PEAR repository, as soon as that framework is ready. I see no point in adding this extension to cvs actually, when we have pear, let's add it there, until then, I don't think this belongs in the php documentation or in the php source tree (no offense christian I just don't see a general enough usage for this extension). mmh.I'm fine with pear, if there would be a standard way for deploying traditional extensions. About the general usage of this extension: I see a lot of people using ImageMagick with exec()/system() since it supports a vast number of imageformats and some other features not supported by gd. Nevertheless, i'm certainly not offended, if you don't want it in the main cvs, but I think a lot of people could see a real use in it. chregu -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
Christian Stocker wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:22:12 +0100, derick wrote: Let it do to the list then ... On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Christian Stocker wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Egon Schmid wrote: From: Christian Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote further on my ImageMagick extension (still a lot missing), but most importantly i wrote some documentation. You can have a look at it at http://php.chregu.tv/imagick/ comments etc. always welcome. Looks good. Please commit it to phpdoc and make your updates there. mmh, as the extension is not in the php-source tree at the moment, it doesn't make sense to check it in into phpdoc. Or am I wrong about that? But as soon as ext/imagick is in the cvs (if...), I will commit my documentation to phpdoc as well. Did you request a cvs account already? IMO this would be a fine extension. However, i think it should move to the PEAR repository, as soon as that framework is ready. I see no point in adding this extension to cvs actually, when we have pear, let's add it there, until then, I don't think this belongs in the php documentation or in the php source tree (no offense christian I just don't see a general enough usage for this extension). mmh.I'm fine with pear, if there would be a standard way for deploying traditional extensions. About the general usage of this extension: I see a lot of people using ImageMagick with exec()/system() since it supports a vast number of imageformats and some other features not supported by gd. Nevertheless, i'm certainly not offended, if you don't want it in the main cvs, but I think a lot of people could see a real use in it. Really, I've *never* come across a piece of code that used imagemagick. I think it definitely does have a use, don't get me wrong, I'm just doubting that the use is widespread enough to be in PHP's cvs currently... I think perhaps we should in the meantime have a little repository somewhere of extensions (just a list), where imagemagick could be listed. Also, as you said yourself, currently its very basic, so at least we should let it mature a little (btw, I'm just going on what you said here, I haven't looked at the code). -Sterling -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
Really, I've *never* come across a piece of code that used imagemagick. I think it definitely does have a use, don't get me wrong, I'm just doubting that the use is widespread enough to be in PHP's cvs currently... IMHO, imagemagick is a powerfull tools. Some of their functionnalities could be done with the gd ext (at least with a piece of phpcode), but gd is not and will not be a complete images converter/modifier and not optimize to be. I use imagick as a command line (exec) to convert, resize, and so for several years, speeds up the jobs and best result. I think perhaps we should in the meantime have a little repository somewhere of extensions (just a list), where imagemagick could be listed. Also, as you said yourself, currently its very basic, so at least we should let it mature a little (btw, I'm just going on what you said here, I haven't looked at the code). The repository is a great idea :). pa -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:27:28 +0100, Sterling Hughes wrote: [snip] I think perhaps we should in the meantime have a little repository somewhere of extensions (just a list), where imagemagick could be listed. Also, as you said yourself, currently its very basic, so at least we should let it mature a little (btw, I'm just going on what you said here, I haven't looked at the code). yes, it's basic, but useable. ImageMagick's functionlist is extensiv, so it will be a lot to do. But the repository is a good idea. Or just hack the pear.php.net site the way, that one can see the php-c-extensions without all the pear-php-packages.. Anyway, I think this whole issue with extensions in PEAR/PECL should be discussed/implemented/whatever. Maybe better on pear-dev... chregu -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
Title: RE: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd) Sterling Hughes writes: Really, I've *never* come across a piece of code that used imagemagick. I think it definitely does have a use, don't get me wrong, I'm just doubting that the use is widespread enough to be in PHP's cvs currently... Well it's taken several years but finally you posted something I don't agree with. :) So imagemagick would be less popular than, say, Ovrimos, YAZ(eesh), SESAM, Crédit Mutuel CyberMUT... I could see imagemagick giving gd a real run for its money in the PHP extension popularity contest, particularly after it has matured and had its featureset (hint hint..) enhanced. Perhaps if it were added to the base code the author would be more inclined to enhance/update/maintain it. Just a thought anyways. Mike Robinson IT / Developer - Toronto Star TV Phone: 416.945.8786 Fax: 416.869.4566 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.torontostartv.com - Webcasting Production http://www.tmgtv.ca - Hometown Television http://www.thestar.com - Canadas largest daily newspaper, The Toronto Star, online -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 16:58, Robinson, Mike wrote: Sterling Hughes writes: Really, I've *never* come across a piece of code that used imagemagick. I think it definitely does have a use, don't get me wrong, I'm just doubting that the use is widespread enough to be in PHP's cvs currently... Well it's taken several years but finally you posted something I don't agree with. :) Wow, several years, that almost seems too long :) So imagemagick would be less popular than, say, Ovrimos, YAZ(eesh), SESAM, Crédit Mutuel CyberMUT... no, I don't remember saying these belonged in PHP's CVS, they are there for a large part imho legacy reasons and laziness (ie, not enough bitching when they were proprosed). I could see imagemagick giving gd a real run for its money in the PHP extension popularity contest, particularly after it has matured and had its featureset (hint hint..) enhanced. I couldn't... The library its based on is somewhat ugly, furthermore, its slower from what I can see... Currently its not enhanced and its not that important. Perhaps if it were added to the base code the author would be more inclined to enhance/update/maintain it. Just a thought anyways. Why? Because its in PHP's cvs, the neatness of that grows old very quick :) -Sterling -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: Well it's taken several years but finally you posted something I don't agree with. :) Wow, several years, that almost seems too long :) Yes, didn't you still walk under the table when it all started? :) -Andrei The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! but That's funny... -- Isaac Asimov. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/imagick update (fwd)
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 22:17, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: Well it's taken several years but finally you posted something I don't agree with. :) Wow, several years, that almost seems too long :) Yes, didn't you still walk under the table when it all started? :) I resent that! I was building forts goddamn it! ;) -Sterling -Andrei The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! but That's funny... -- Isaac Asimov. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
