Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Boian Bonev]

> > i can see just one reason - most people use the same php binary both for
cgi
> > and shell scripting. if this change is to be introduced in php then at
least
> > three builds will be performed - for shell, cgi and web server module.
btw
> > what happened with the change to the build system to allow simultaneous
> > building of both cgi-sapi and another one?
>
> Why would you build all 3? It seems to me that at most only 2 would be
> built: web-server + shell, or cgi + shell.

you are right - most people build just 2.

b.


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Andrei Zmievski]

On Fri, 07 Sep 2001, Boian Bonev wrote:
> i can see just one reason - most people use the same php binary both for cgi
> and shell scripting. if this change is to be introduced in php then at least
> three builds will be performed - for shell, cgi and web server module. btw
> what happened with the change to the build system to allow simultaneous
> building of both cgi-sapi and another one?

Why would you build all 3? It seems to me that at most only 2 would be
built: web-server + shell, or cgi + shell.

-Andrei
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Brian Moon]

All the -S option does now is call zend functions to set up runtime
settings.  This would just be another function to call.

I would think that include would use the current method.

Also, is it possible to make PHP ignore an opening tag if it is there?  If
not then I don't like this idea because it breaks all my code that I want
the -S option for.

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From: "Boian Bonev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brian Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stig
Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting


> sure it will be ok. but this is change in zend, not php.
>
> to make this working zend people must export a
call/option/global/something
> to change the flex scanner initial state.
>
> and a question of design - shall this be a permanent or first execute
> change? i mean if a script run with -S includes another php script, then
> what shall be the initial state for the included script?
>
> to Zeev: then why not remove 1/3 of the code ifdefed __cpluplus?
>
> b.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Boian Bonev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stig
> Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting
>
>
> > We could make this part of the -S option that I have just submitted a
> patch
> > for.
> >
> > Brian Moon
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> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Boian Bonev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stig Sæther Bakken"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting
> >
> >
> > > +1 :))
> > >
> > > and a
> > >
> > > #!/bin/php -p
> > > echo "some string here\n";
> > > ?>some html here ;)))
> > > 
> > >
> > > although this requires a patch in Zend/zend_language_scanner.l line
279
> > :)))
> > > for plain c, and i didn't look where for c++.
> > >
> > > b.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Stig Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting
> > >
> > >
> > > > What if we introduced a -p option to PHP that starts the Zend parser
> > > > in "PHP mode"?  For any other files (include/require), it starts in
> > > > "HTML mode" though.
> > > >
> > > >  - Stig
> > > >
> > > > [<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > > > > Yeah, I agree. However, it might make things a bit muddled
> > > > > for people using it as cgi? How would PHP tell if the following
> > > > > was PHP code or if its supposed to be echoed to the web browser?
> > > > >
> > > > > I would rather see a -shell option which does what you describe.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike (long-time listener, first-time poster ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/7/01, 11:27:30 AM, Edin Kadribasic wrote
> > > > > regarding Re: [PHP-DEV] patch to make for better shell scripting:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Almost forgot. IMO -q swich should make starting  > > > > instead
> > > > > > of writing:
> > > > >
> > > > > > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > > > > >  > > > > > print "Hello, world!\n";
> > > > > > ?>
> > > > >
> > > > > > I could simply say:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Boian Bonev]

i can see just one reason - most people use the same php binary both for cgi
and shell scripting. if this change is to be introduced in php then at least
three builds will be performed - for shell, cgi and web server module. btw
what happened with the change to the build system to allow simultaneous
building of both cgi-sapi and another one?

b.

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To: "Stig Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting


On Fri, 07 Sep 2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
> What if we introduced a -p option to PHP that starts the Zend parser
> in "PHP mode"?  For any other files (include/require), it starts in
> "HTML mode" though.

How about we have a separate sapi backend that really does all this
stuff properly without relying on command-line options (which I hate)?
This suggestion has been made long ago, so what's stopping us?

-Andrei

"Everything should be made as simple
as possible, but not simpler."
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Zeev Suraski]

At 18:11 07-09-01, Boian Bonev wrote:
>to Zeev: then why not remove 1/3 of the code ifdefed __cpluplus?

I've had that patch pending for a while, but waited to see if there are any 
problems with the new C-only scanner.

Zeev


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Boian Bonev]

sure it will be ok. but this is change in zend, not php.

to make this working zend people must export a call/option/global/something
to change the flex scanner initial state.

and a question of design - shall this be a permanent or first execute
change? i mean if a script run with -S includes another php script, then
what shall be the initial state for the included script?

to Zeev: then why not remove 1/3 of the code ifdefed __cpluplus?

b.
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting


> We could make this part of the -S option that I have just submitted a
patch
> for.
>
> Brian Moon
> --
> dealnews.com, Inc.
> Makers of dealnews & dealmac
> http://dealnews.com/ | http://dealmac.com/
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Boian Bonev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stig Sæther Bakken"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting
>
>
> > +1 :))
> >
> > and a
> >
> > #!/bin/php -p
> > echo "some string here\n";
> > ?>some html here ;)))
> > 
> >
> > although this requires a patch in Zend/zend_language_scanner.l line 279
> :)))
> > for plain c, and i didn't look where for c++.
> >
> > b.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Stig Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting
> >
> >
> > > What if we introduced a -p option to PHP that starts the Zend parser
> > > in "PHP mode"?  For any other files (include/require), it starts in
> > > "HTML mode" though.
> > >
> > >  - Stig
> > >
> > > [<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > > > Yeah, I agree. However, it might make things a bit muddled
> > > > for people using it as cgi? How would PHP tell if the following
> > > > was PHP code or if its supposed to be echoed to the web browser?
> > > >
> > > > I would rather see a -shell option which does what you describe.
> > > >
> > > > Mike (long-time listener, first-time poster ;)
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >
> > > > On 9/7/01, 11:27:30 AM, Edin Kadribasic wrote
> > > > regarding Re: [PHP-DEV] patch to make for better shell scripting:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Almost forgot. IMO -q swich should make starting  > > > instead
> > > > > of writing:
> > > >
> > > > > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > > > >  > > > > print "Hello, world!\n";
> > > > > ?>
> > > >
> > > > > I could simply say:
> > > >
> > > > > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > > > > print "Hello, world!\n";
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Edin
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Andrei Zmievski]

On Fri, 07 Sep 2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
> What if we introduced a -p option to PHP that starts the Zend parser
> in "PHP mode"?  For any other files (include/require), it starts in
> "HTML mode" though.

How about we have a separate sapi backend that really does all this
stuff properly without relying on command-line options (which I hate)?
This suggestion has been made long ago, so what's stopping us?

-Andrei

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as possible, but not simpler."
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Zeev Suraski]

At 17:51 07-09-01, Boian Bonev wrote:
>+1 :))
>
>and a
>
>#!/bin/php -p
>echo "some string here\n";
>?>some html here ;)))
>
>
>although this requires a patch in Zend/zend_language_scanner.l line 279 :)))
>for plain c, and i didn't look where for c++.

We no longer have a C++ scanner.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Brian Moon]

We could make this part of the -S option that I have just submitted a patch
for.

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- Original Message -
From: "Boian Bonev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stig Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting


> +1 :))
>
> and a
>
> #!/bin/php -p
> echo "some string here\n";
> ?>some html here ;)))
> 
>
> although this requires a patch in Zend/zend_language_scanner.l line 279
:)))
> for plain c, and i didn't look where for c++.
>
> b.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stig Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting
>
>
> > What if we introduced a -p option to PHP that starts the Zend parser
> > in "PHP mode"?  For any other files (include/require), it starts in
> > "HTML mode" though.
> >
> >  - Stig
> >
> > [<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > > Yeah, I agree. However, it might make things a bit muddled
> > > for people using it as cgi? How would PHP tell if the following
> > > was PHP code or if its supposed to be echoed to the web browser?
> > >
> > > I would rather see a -shell option which does what you describe.
> > >
> > > Mike (long-time listener, first-time poster ;)
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >
> > > On 9/7/01, 11:27:30 AM, Edin Kadribasic wrote
> > > regarding Re: [PHP-DEV] patch to make for better shell scripting:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Almost forgot. IMO -q swich should make starting  > > instead
> > > > of writing:
> > >
> > > > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > > >  > > > print "Hello, world!\n";
> > > > ?>
> > >
> > > > I could simply say:
> > >
> > > > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > > > print "Hello, world!\n";
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Edin
> > >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Boian Bonev]

+1 :))

and a

#!/bin/php -p
echo "some string here\n";
?>some html here ;)))


although this requires a patch in Zend/zend_language_scanner.l line 279 :)))
for plain c, and i didn't look where for c++.

b.
- Original Message -
From: "Stig Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting


> What if we introduced a -p option to PHP that starts the Zend parser
> in "PHP mode"?  For any other files (include/require), it starts in
> "HTML mode" though.
>
>  - Stig
>
> [<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > Yeah, I agree. However, it might make things a bit muddled
> > for people using it as cgi? How would PHP tell if the following
> > was PHP code or if its supposed to be echoed to the web browser?
> >
> > I would rather see a -shell option which does what you describe.
> >
> > Mike (long-time listener, first-time poster ;)
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > On 9/7/01, 11:27:30 AM, Edin Kadribasic wrote
> > regarding Re: [PHP-DEV] patch to make for better shell scripting:
> >
> >
> > > Almost forgot. IMO -q swich should make starting  > instead
> > > of writing:
> >
> > > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > >  > > print "Hello, world!\n";
> > > ?>
> >
> > > I could simply say:
> >
> > > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > > print "Hello, world!\n";
> >
> >
> >
> > > Edin
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[Stig Sæther Bakken]

What if we introduced a -p option to PHP that starts the Zend parser
in "PHP mode"?  For any other files (include/require), it starts in
"HTML mode" though.

 - Stig

[<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Yeah, I agree. However, it might make things a bit muddled
> for people using it as cgi? How would PHP tell if the following
> was PHP code or if its supposed to be echoed to the web browser?
> 
> I would rather see a -shell option which does what you describe.
> 
> Mike (long-time listener, first-time poster ;)
> 
> >> Original Message <<
> 
> On 9/7/01, 11:27:30 AM, Edin Kadribasic wrote 
> regarding Re: [PHP-DEV] patch to make for better shell scripting:
> 
> 
> > Almost forgot. IMO -q swich should make starting  instead
> > of writing:
> 
> > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> >  > print "Hello, world!\n";
> > ?>
> 
> > I could simply say:
> 
> > #!/usr/bin/php -q
> > print "Hello, world!\n";
> 
> 
> 
> > Edin
> 
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[PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

[mikeheald]

Yeah, I agree. However, it might make things a bit muddled
for people using it as cgi? How would PHP tell if the following
was PHP code or if its supposed to be echoed to the web browser?

I would rather see a -shell option which does what you describe.

Mike (long-time listener, first-time poster ;)

>> Original Message <<

On 9/7/01, 11:27:30 AM, Edin Kadribasic wrote 
regarding Re: [PHP-DEV] patch to make for better shell scripting:


> Almost forgot. IMO -q swich should make starting  of writing:

> #!/usr/bin/php -q
>  print "Hello, world!\n";
> ?>

> I could simply say:

> #!/usr/bin/php -q
> print "Hello, world!\n";



> Edin


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