[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-04 Thread Zeev Suraski

I don't think it's a very good idea.  I think that crossposting in mailing 
list such as php-dev and php-qa makes perfect sense, because of the 
significant (yet far from 100%) overlap between the two lists.  You could 
just get your filters to filter out duplicate letters (there's a good 
procmail recipe for doing that automatically).

Zeev

At 13:46 4/4/2001, Hellekin O. Wolf wrote:
At 00:54 04/04/2001 +0200, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
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  Please stop crossposting to the PHP-DEV and the PHP-QA mailing list. Most
  people interesting in this theme are reading both. And so it is really
  annoying to get everything twice.

a bad idea IMHO as long as the topic is related to both lists as
this will break the thread in the archives for one of the lists

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-04 Thread Zeev Suraski

At 22:52 3/4/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
lets follow the "break it hard, break it early" rule here ...

It's kind of difficult to do that now, that this behavior has been around 
for the last 4 years :)  It'll never be early.

Zeev


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RE: ; arg seperator

2001-04-04 Thread Zeev Suraski

At 23:04 3/4/2001, Joey Smith wrote:
 I've never bought into this argument, because these companies
can include a "config.php", or something like that, which uses
ini_set() to set up the INI file however they need it...

ini_set() is run after the input parsing is already done, so it won't help 
in this case.  Only .htaccess or equivalent.


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-03 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

Joey Smith wrote:
 
 Just wanted to toss in my .02 here...
 
 Anyone who wrote scripts in the past expecting: foo.php?a=1;2;3 to get
 "$a=1;2;3" was relying on a bug, or at the very LEAST an undocumented
 feature. So if it goes away, it goes away. It should never have worked
 to begin with, IMHO...
 
 This doesn't mean it won't bite some people, but that's never been a
 problem before in cases of undocumented features.

and as long as it can be switched back to old behavior 
via an ini parameter it should be ok IMHO 

yes, it *will* break some scripts and people *will* complain
but as long as it is documented in NEWS it isn't our fault

lets follow the "break it hard, break it early" rule here ...



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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-03 Thread Andi Gutmans

At 02:46 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
Just wanted to toss in my .02 here...

Anyone who wrote scripts in the past expecting: foo.php?a=1;2;3 to get
"$a=1;2;3" was relying on a bug, or at the very LEAST an undocumented
feature. So if it goes away, it goes away. It should never have worked
to begin with, IMHO...

Why? It was documented that  was the separator.


This doesn't mean it won't bite some people, but that's never been a
problem before in cases of undocumented features.

I don't think it was undocumented.

Andi


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-03 Thread Andi Gutmans

At 03:18 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
Speaking of this, I think we need to collect all of these types of
issues that are waiting for a "4.1" release somewhere, so we can get a
clear idea of when 4.1 is appropriate. Anyone know of any off-hand? If
not, I can go search the archives...

In any case it is a good idea to make a list of these issues. I can't 
remember off hand what issues we had so I hope people have a better memory 
than me :)

Andi


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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-03 Thread Joey Smith

Same here. I know there's a few things like this out there...I am going
to bed now. If no one else has done it before I wake, I'll start doing
some digging.

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote the following to Joey Smith, PHP...:

 At 03:18 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
 Speaking of this, I think we need to collect all of these types of
 issues that are waiting for a "4.1" release somewhere, so we can get a
 clear idea of when 4.1 is appropriate. Anyone know of any off-hand? If
 not, I can go search the archives...
 
 In any case it is a good idea to make a list of these issues. I can't 
 remember off hand what issues we had so I hope people have a better memory 
 than me :)
 
 Andi
 
 
 


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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-03 Thread James Moore


 Same here. I know there's a few things like this out there...I am going
 to bed now. If no one else has done it before I wake, I'll start doing
 some digging.
 
 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote the following to Joey 
 Smith, PHP...:
 
  At 03:18 PM 4/3/2001 -0600, Joey Smith wrote:
  Speaking of this, I think we need to collect all of these types of
  issues that are waiting for a "4.1" release somewhere, so we can get a
  clear idea of when 4.1 is appropriate. Anyone know of any off-hand? If
  not, I can go search the archives...
  
  In any case it is a good idea to make a list of these issues. I can't 
  remember off hand what issues we had so I hope people have a 
 better memory 
  than me :)

Function renaming was the other.

James

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-03 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

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 Please stop crossposting to the PHP-DEV and the PHP-QA mailing list. Most
 people interesting in this theme are reading both. And so it is really
 annoying to get everything twice.

a bad idea IMHO as long as the topic is related to both lists as
this will break the thread in the archives for one of the lists

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