[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
And you expect us to give you that power? :) Seriously, PHP isn't going to start following Nazi-like strict rules. We shouldn't get into jurisdictions and stuff like that because they're endless discussions with no point. In an opensource project you can set guidelines, not laws, and we

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2001, Steve Langasek wrote: Give the QA team that power. Let the release branch be reserved exclusively for bugfixes, and give the QA team control over what gets committed to the branch. This is the only way to make headway against

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: And you expect us to give you that power? :) Did I suggest that? I didn't. I was referring only to the rest of that piece of text, not the part about 'giving power'. Seriously, PHP isn't going to start following Nazi-like strict rules. We shouldn't get

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread derick
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Sascha Schumann wrote: On Thu, 3 May 2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: Amen. There can't be _ANY_ exceptions to this. Not even Sascha or ANYBODY else. Including Zeev/Andi/Rasmus. Just thinking of that FastCGI thingie.. Funny that you mention my name as the first one in

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 11:08 AM 5/3/2001 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: On Thu, 3 May 2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2001, Steve Langasek wrote: Give the QA team that power. Let the release branch be reserved exclusively for bugfixes, and give the QA team control over what gets committed to the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 12:12 3/5/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Thu, 3 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: And you expect us to give you that power? :) Did I suggest that? I didn't. I was referring only to the rest of that piece of text, not the part about 'giving power'. quote Give the QA team that power. Let the

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Cynic
Zeev, do you think ASF is a Nazi-like group? I don't think so. Nor do I witness endless discussions caused by the fact that the Apache release cycle is far (in a galaxy far, far away.. :) stricter than the PHP one. 4.0.5 took very long to release, and it seems like it could have been released

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 12:47 PM 5/3/2001 +0200, Cynic wrote: Zeev, do you think ASF is a Nazi-like group? I don't think so. Nor do I witness endless discussions caused by the fact that the Apache release cycle is far (in a galaxy far, far away.. :) stricter than the PHP one. Is it? I'm not that sure. They also

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Cynic
At 12:48 3.5. 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote the following: -- At 12:47 PM 5/3/2001 +0200, Cynic wrote: Zeev, do you think ASF is a Nazi-like group? I don't think so. Nor do I witness endless discussions caused by the fact that the Apache

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 12:47 PM 5/3/2001 +0200, Cynic wrote: Is it? I'm not that sure. They also release with known bugs although I admit to not knowing their exact release cycle so I won't comment more on Ehem. We release with known bugs too but we don't tell it to anyone..

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 13:47 3/5/2001, Cynic wrote: Zeev, do you think ASF is a Nazi-like group? I don't think so. Nor do I witness endless discussions caused by the fact that the Apache release cycle is far (in a galaxy far, far away.. :) stricter than the PHP one. I was talking about the ruleset and the way to

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-03 Thread Zak Greant
Jani wrote: CRAZY IDEA Maybe we should have something like the terrorist cells? ie. groups of 3 persons who know only about the one above them? X __|_ /\ a b / | \ / \ c (d) e e g [...] /CRAZY IDEA Wow this sounds like one of my ideas Jani.

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: 4.0.6

2001-05-02 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Steve Langasek wrote: Give the QA team that power. Let the release branch be reserved exclusively for bugfixes, and give the QA team control over what gets committed to the branch. This is the only way to make headway against bugs. Amen. There can't be _ANY_ exceptions to