Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-04-02 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Andrei didn't use C coding in Smarty simply because his team failed to produce effective solution in reasonable time, but it does not mean that such solution impossible (no offense for IPSI at all, just facts from Smarty documentation). We have

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-04-02 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote: I very much liked Andrei's implementation of Smary templates. It uses the Zend (PHP) scripting language and caches templated scripts without messing with the core of PHP. Just nitpicking, Andi, but really, it's Zend that needs to be in parenthesis

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-04-02 Thread Alan Knowles
PHP and midgard is still undergoing heavy development. Actually it's stable release went out a few days ago? - the midgard team actually aimed at matching the PHP release cycle.. - all modifications at present are pure bug fixes.. Sascha complains about the stability of PHP and all of our

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-04-01 Thread Andi Gutmans
I very much liked Andrei's implementation of Smary templates. It uses the Zend (PHP) scripting language and caches templated scripts without messing with the core of PHP. I haven't used it but from reading the specs it looks like Andrei his guys did a great job. Andi At 11:10 AM 4/1/2001

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-04-01 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:21:07AM +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote: I very much liked Andrei's implementation of Smary templates. It uses the Zend (PHP) scripting language and caches templated scripts without messing with the core of PHP. I haven't used it but from reading the specs it looks like

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-31 Thread Paul Newby
As a user of PHP and Midgard, I'd just like to comment that my use of PHP is completely dependent on my perception of it's potential to embrace integrating applications like Midgard. I'd like to see Midgard do for PHP what Zope has done for Python in the way of increasing the level of

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-31 Thread Mike Robinson
I'd like to see Midgard do for PHP what Zope has done for Python in the way of increasing the level of penetration of the language. What exactly has zope done for Python? Nothing. The measurement of python's increased penetration as a result of zope can be expressed simply as 'zilch'.

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-31 Thread James Moore
As a user of PHP and Midgard, I'd just like to comment that my use of PHP is completely dependent on my perception of it's potential to embrace integrating applications like Midgard. I'd like to see Midgard do for PHP what Zope has done for Python in the way of increasing the level of

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-31 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, James Moore wrote: Is Zope distributed with Python? I think not. There is nothing stopping the midguard folks distributing the latest version of PHP compiled or as source code with midguard so people can go one place and download midguard or midguard can be placed in PEAR

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-31 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Ask Zend folks, they have our proposals, even C code to Zend engine to implement native templating with no connection to Midgard at all - this system was designed to be generic for any template providers. Does this have to be implemented in the ZendEngine or would

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-31 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 09:07:44AM +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Ask Zend folks, they have our proposals, even C code to Zend engine to implement native templating with no connection to Midgard at all - this system was designed to be generic for any template

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-30 Thread Emiliano
James Moore wrote: This will undoubtedly happen again and again ad midgard and PHP work on different release cycles and is by no means the fault of the midgard people but it just isn't practical if we are trying to release stable versions of PHP and midgard is still undergoing heavy

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-30 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
James Moore wrote: Sascha complains about the stability of PHP and all of our patch And I think he is right about this. I propose that we remove midgard from the PHP CVS into a separate PEARC module Stig created such a module, called PEAR (who would've thought of that? *g*), some days

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-30 Thread Jason Greene
IMHO, this sounds like its best for everyone, *especially* the end users of midgard and php. -Jason - Original Message - From: "James Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-30 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, James Moore wrote: Sorry to bring this up yet again but before we release 4.0.5 this needs to be sorted otherwise nothing will ever happen. We have just reached 4.0.5RC4 (which was the final planned RC) and we find that the midgard folks need to fix some bugs with the

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-30 Thread James Moore
Um... If I'm not mistaken, the midgaurd extension itself, only provides functionality to the "midguard" application? Ie, end-users of midguard will not use the functions and classes exported by the extension, only midguard will use that functionality? If so, I'm not too sure it would

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-30 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, James Moore wrote: Um... If I'm not mistaken, the midgaurd extension itself, only provides functionality to the "midguard" application? Ie, end-users of midguard will not use the functions and classes exported by the extension, only midguard will use that

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.5 Release Midgard Problems

2001-03-30 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 01:27:11PM -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, James Moore wrote: Um... If I'm not mistaken, the midgaurd extension itself, only provides functionality to the "midguard" application? Ie, end-users of midguard will not use the functions