Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / php.ini-distphp.ini-recommended

2002-04-27 Thread Stig S. Bakken

I have to agree with Rasmus.  Don't fix what isn't broken.  While
short_tags may annoy some people, it certainly doesn't break anything,
while disabling it by default would.

What are we trying to do?  Roll out release after release making
problems for people?  IMHO we've filled our quota for a while with the
register_globals change.

 - Stig

On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 07:48, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
 But what problem are you trying to solve?
 
 There have been a lot of changes lately that adds more obstacles for the
 new user.  Most of the books out there and all sorts of tutorials show
 short-tag examples.  People will try them and they won't work.  Likewise,
 with register_globals off now a bunch of things won't work.  The more
 changes like this, the more obstacles we impose.  That has always been
 PHP's strong-suit.  It works, it gives people positive feedback and they
 continue with it.  If someones' initial experience is something that
 doesn't work, we have lost them.  I wish people would spend more time
 coming up with cool ways to help the newbie as they do coming up with
 obstacles, fancy OOP and other weird stuff that only appeals to the top 1%
 of PHP users.
 
 And no, I don't consider register_globals and this to be anywhere near
 equivalent.  For register_globals a security argument can be made.  For
 short_tags there is no such thing.  It is just an obstacle, nothing more.
 The few people that this might actually affect already know better.  And
 if they don't, we have a documentation problem which is where this should
 be addressed.
 
 -Rasmus
 
 On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
 
  Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
   Please revert.
 
What about a compromise and enable it in php.ini-dist, and disable it
in php.ini-recommended?
 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / php.ini-distphp.ini-recommended /ext/tokenizer

2002-02-10 Thread Stig S. Bakken

On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 18:15, Andi Gutmans wrote:
 At 09:21 AM 2/10/2002 +0100, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
 Markus Fischer wrote:
   It is not publicly exposed with ZEND_API(). I can't test
   right now, but maybe just need to modify the zend_compile.h
   file and prepend the prototype definition with ZEND_API ?
 
Yes, prefixing the prototype with ZEND_API did the trick.
 
Andi, Zeev, is this change okay with you?
 
 Yeah, no problem.

Only problem is of course that now ZEND_MODULE_API_NO has to change just
due to this little change.

 - Stig




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