[Walter Franzini [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[sorry, my English is bad]
Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Why? Whatever extension you use on your box, put them in the php.ini.
dl() is never a better option.
Zeev
An example not solvable using php.ini:
At SysNet, we access
At 11:37 28-08-01, Walter Franzini wrote:
[sorry, my English is bad]
Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Why? Whatever extension you use on your box, put them in the php.ini.
dl() is never a better option.
Zeev
An example not solvable using php.ini:
At SysNet, we access
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
At 17:55 07-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the
technical challenges in doing JIT module initialization?
It's not much of a challenge really. If we decide it should be done,
it can be
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:28:02AM +0200, Stig Sæther Bakken
wrote:
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
At 17:55 07-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the
technical challenges in doing JIT module initialization?
It's not much
At 10:39 08-08-01, Thies C. Arntzen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:28:02AM +0200, Stig Sæther Bakken
wrote:
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
At 17:55 07-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the
technical challenges in
At 09:39 AM 8/8/2001 +0200, Thies C. Arntzen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:28:02AM +0200, Stig Sæther Bakken
wrote:
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
At 17:55 07-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the
technical
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
At 19:40 06/08/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 07:10 06/08/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
What if you use 50 different shared extensions, for different
scripts on the same box? Should you load them all in
At 17:55 07-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the
technical challenges in doing JIT module initialization?
It's not much of a challenge really. If we decide it should be done, it
can be done...
Zeev
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote:
i don't think this is crucial for the gtk stuff as this
problem only arises once the request ends _and_ a new request
starts. the shutdown in the engine has been changed to only
destruct classes (from the end of the list) until the
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
By the way, if it's really important, we can look into supporting it.
The way it was before - it worked in most cases (assuming you never
tried to use a class before you dl() the corresponding extension), but
could result in crashes in other cases.
I don't
At 17:49 06/08/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
By the way, if it's really important, we can look into supporting it.
The way it was before - it worked in most cases (assuming you never
tried to use a class before you dl() the corresponding extension), but
I disagree, is there any way dl() can be fixed,
because it is a useful function...
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 17:49 06/08/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
By the way, if it's really important, we can look into supporting it.
The way it was
Please don't just say it's useful, please say why :)
dl() has absolutely nothing over loading in php.ini, and has many drawbacks.
Zeev
At 17:55 06/08/2001, Andy wrote:
I disagree, is there any way dl() can be fixed,
because it is a useful function...
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Please don't just say it's useful, please say why :)
dl() has absolutely nothing over loading in php.ini, and has many drawbacks.
Please allow me to coin a new term: Zeev-ism. Zeev-isms are of the
form users don't need X or 95.6% of the scripts out there
See my letter to Andrei.
I've yet to see an ISP that (knowingly) allows users to load extensions,
and wouldn't agree to add them to the php.ini file.
This isn't a case of me saying users don't need X or 95.6% of the
scripts out there don't need Y. This is me saying that dl() is *bad*,
even
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote:
don't think there's an API for that. we would have to add the
MODULE_NUMBER to the class-entry and then (when unloading the
module) also destroy the classes that that module defined. i
think constants and functions already do this.
At 06:30 06/08/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
How so? I can understand that people get used to it, but it's really
bad. extensions should be loaded in the php.ini file. There's really no
good reason
At 07:10 06/08/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
What if you use 50 different shared extensions, for different
scripts on the same box? Should you load them all in each time?
I don't think so...
Other than your phobia, there's no real reason not to do it :)
Zeev
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PHP Development
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 07:10 06/08/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
What if you use 50 different shared extensions, for different
scripts on the same box? Should you load them all in each time?
I don't think so...
Other than your phobia, there's no real
At 19:40 06/08/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 07:10 06/08/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
What if you use 50 different shared extensions, for different
scripts on the same box? Should you load them all in each time?
I don't think so...
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
Nothing measurable. That was actually measured (changing PHP to initialize
extensions just-in-time, in case they're actually being used) - and it
turned out it wasn't giving any noticeable performance gain.
If there were a thousand extensions, we
At 19:45 06/08/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
Nothing measurable. That was actually measured (changing PHP to
initialize
extensions just-in-time, in case they're actually being used) - and it
turned out it wasn't giving any noticeable performance
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
I think the disk weights about the same regardless of the data inside it
:)
Yes, but 50 extensions will consume more memory than 1.
-Andrei
In My Egotistical Opinion, most people's C programs should be indented
six feet downward and covered with dirt.
Hi,
Deprecate dl()? I think it's one of the most useful functions... :)
How so? I can understand that people get used to it, but it's really
bad. extensions should be loaded in the php.ini file. There's really no
good reason for using dl() over the php.ini method.
I agree with you when
In a few words:
For a webserver: ban dl()
For generic scripting: keep dl()
What's really the point of protecting people from their stupidity. If
you're going to keep it in the generic scripting engine (which I think has
lots of value), why not keep it in the webserver engine as well. There
At 23:57 06-08-01, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi,
Deprecate dl()? I think it's one of the most useful functions... :)
How so? I can understand that people get used to it, but it's really
bad. extensions should be loaded in the php.ini file. There's really no
good reason for using dl()
I disagree in two levels. First, I think that saying We can't protect
people from their stupidity, so let's lift all bars is just plain wrong
and a bad approach in a real world situation. Sure, it's true, but we can
definitely reduce the risks involved in common mistakes that people
make.
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