Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PEAR (was: Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/midgardconfig.m4)

2001-03-19 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

 On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

 Because the whole point of this was to make life easier on midgard users.

 So you're saying that every widely used external (at the moment)
 php-extension should be put into PHP CVS? :)

If it will help users and there is demand for it, sure.  Like the imlib2
extension for example.  That probably should be in PHP CVS.

 Isn't php-gtk done like the way the PEAR (C) components should be done?
 At least that's how I compiled that extension. Separately from PHP.
 Using phpize. So I would guess having e.g. midgard outside PHP shouldn't
 matter at all?

No, we need tighter integration.  We want to be able to do something along
the lines of "pear pear.php.net/midgard" and it would go and fetch
the the component, build it and install it.

-Rasmus


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PEAR (was: Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/midgardconfig.m4)

2001-03-19 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

See pear/scripts/pear

The framework is there.

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:

 At 02:04 20/3/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
 No, we need tighter integration.  We want to be able to do something along
 the lines of "pear pear.php.net/midgard" and it would go and fetch
 the the component, build it and install it.

 I completely agree with Andi about this.  If it won't be simple, it will
 simply not be.  We can start simple, and work our way up.

 Zeev



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PEAR (was: Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/midgardconfig.m4)

2001-03-19 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

 That's great, but it shouldn't be the starting point for the project...
 Jani is right that whenever we speak about separating PEAR, or putting
 extensions in it, it's always at some point in the future.  Opensource
 projects usually start up and roll once they reach some critical mass, and
 waiting for a certain particular development to happen isn't usually
 beneficial.  If there'll be people working on PEAR modules, the incentive
 for the 'pear' utility author will be much higher to make it work, and he
 may also have some support from others.  It's been 14 months since PEAR was
 born, I think it may be a good idea to try and let it walk a bit.

Sure, it's not like anybody is turning away code contributions.  If
someone has an idea for this PEAR infrastructure, it is more than welcome.

-Rasmus


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