Re: [PHP-DEV] midgard, was RE: [PHP-DEV] Legal solution: RE: [PHP-DEV]Non-GPL readline

2001-01-17 Thread Sascha Schumann

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Sam Liddicott wrote:

 Midgard, soon to use php4 is to be released GPL (according to their website
 www.midgard-project.org).

 How will this work; will it just be the patch to php4 that makes it INTO
 migard that will be GPL, or midgard+PHP that will be GPL.

The owner of GPLed code can grant third parties the right to
use the code with certain non-GPLed programs (i.e. PHP).  The
merged result will inherit all license conditions from both
code bases (unless the owner of the code expressively states
something else).  The result won't be solely under the GPL,
but under a (cumbersome and sometimes contradictionary) set
of conditions.

- Sascha


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Re: [PHP-DEV] midgard, was RE: [PHP-DEV] Legal solution: RE: [PHP-DEV] Non-GPL readline

2001-01-17 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

 At 12:08 17/1/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
 They obviously can't distribute PHP under the GPL.  And I wish they would
 just contribute whatever patches to PHP they think need so Midgard could
 use a vanilla PHP install.

 Stas talked to them a while ago, some of their patches don't really align
 with PHP's syntax / design.  It's not a matter of licensing.

How bad could it be?  Anything we can't just toss into a --with-midgard
switch?

-Rasmus


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Re: [PHP-DEV] midgard, was RE: [PHP-DEV] Legal solution: RE: [PHP-DEV] Non-GPL readline

2001-01-17 Thread Zeev Suraski

At 12:02 17/1/2001, Sam Liddicott wrote:
If (b) is true then surely we need officialy a choice of license (or at
least project-midgard.org does)

As Rasmus said, obviously they can't distribute PHP under the GPL - and 
there's nothing wrong with that.
It doesn't mean that they can't distribute PHP (plain), and midgard under 
their own license.

Zeev


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Re: [PHP-DEV] midgard, was RE: [PHP-DEV] Legal solution: RE: [PHP-DEV] Non-GPL readline

2001-01-17 Thread Zeev Suraski

At 12:17 17/1/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
  At 12:08 17/1/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
  They obviously can't distribute PHP under the GPL.  And I wish they would
  just contribute whatever patches to PHP they think need so Midgard could
  use a vanilla PHP install.
 
  Stas talked to them a while ago, some of their patches don't really align
  with PHP's syntax / design.  It's not a matter of licensing.

How bad could it be?  Anything we can't just toss into a --with-midgard
switch?


Language-syntax level stuff (parserscanner)...

Zeev
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