Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew Carter
Hi Matthew, I believe there's been a misunderstanding (either in my reading of your response - or your reading of mine). To clarify my response - I wasn't trying to discuss the way that he voted or behaved in these discussions and whether it was right or wrong. I was just providing a counter

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On Jul 6, 2016 6:40 PM, "Andrew Carter" wrote: >> >> My main point of contention is that I feel Paul argues legalities only >> when he disagrees with outcomes, which, in the past six months, seems >> to be essentially every decision, judgment call, etc. > > > I

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Stephen Rees-Carter
Paul, Finally, as to the punishment sought, the complainants apparently wish to > "request a replacement Voting Representative" for the Aura project. > (Because there is a ready replacement, the Aura project itself is not a > candidate for being expelled.) As far as I can tell, this punishment

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew Carter
> > My main point of contention is that I feel Paul argues legalities only > when he disagrees with outcomes, which, in the past six months, seems > to be essentially every decision, judgment call, etc. > I disagree - Paul would have voted to expel Dracony but voted against the motion because

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Paul Jones wrote: > - On 08 Jun, Matthew Weier O'Phinney sent an email encouraging me in the > friendliest possible way to resign. To paraphrase, he opined that I had three > options: adapt to recent changes and/or submit to proposed changes

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Glenn Eggleton
Lukas, I do apologize I see now that I had forgotten some facts in your original post. Paul, thank you for the timeline, it is very informative. While I do feel as if private resolution was attempted, there was not sufficient time given to you to change. Instead you were blind-sided by the

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Paul Jones
Dear Voting Representatives, You have heard it said that there were offlist attempts to resolve with me, privately, the matter now at hand. On review of the past 6 months of my email archives and other records, I find only the following relevant communications from FIG members. - On 28 May,

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Chris Johnson
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 3:14:42 PM UTC-5, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: [snip] > I confirmed with Michael before I did the first post in this thread that > according to him offlist attempts at resolving this was in fact made. I > stated this with the first post in this thread. I repeated

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
> On 06 Jul 2016, at 20:35, Glenn Eggleton wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 1:25:40 PM UTC-4, Larry Garfield wrote: > On 07/05/2016 12:57 PM, Paul Jones wrote: > > Dear Voting Representatives, > > *snip* > > > As such, you can see that the complaint appeals to only

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Glenn Eggleton
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 1:25:40 PM UTC-4, Larry Garfield wrote: > On 07/05/2016 12:57 PM, Paul Jones wrote: > > Dear Voting Representatives, > > *snip* > > > As such, you can see that the complaint appeals to only one portion of > "the PHP Community" -- perhaps a portion with which the

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Angie Byron / webchick
On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:26:28 UTC-7, Chris Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 6:14:35 AM UTC-5, Angie Byron / webchick > wrote: > > [snip] > > >> However, the fact that this accusation has this many other signatories >> from leaders in the PHP community who are *not*

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Larry Garfield
On 07/05/2016 12:57 PM, Paul Jones wrote: Dear Voting Representatives, *snip* As such, you can see that the complaint appeals to only one portion of "the PHP Community" -- perhaps a portion with which the complainants themselves identify. But there is another substantial portion, maybe as