Re: FIG CoC - take 2

2020-08-10 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:14 AM Larry Garfield wrote: > Getting back to this... > > It looks like there's a couple of different threads here, which I will try > to separate: > > 1) Code Manifesto vs Contributor Covenant. I really wish we wouldn't get > hung up and side tracked on this,

Re: FIG CoC - take 2

2020-08-08 Thread Larry Garfield
Getting back to this... It looks like there's a couple of different threads here, which I will try to separate: 1) Code Manifesto vs Contributor Covenant. I really wish we wouldn't get hung up and side tracked on this, honestly. That said, I read over the CC v2 link that Lukas posted and it

Re: FIG CoC - take 2

2020-07-28 Thread Michelle Sanver
To chime in quickly as someone from the Symfony CARE team, who now has quite some time of direct experience, and the CoC training. The training was very valuable, even for someone who thought they were experienced like me I learnt a lot. Highly recommend it. Without an enforcement concept in

Re: FIG CoC - take 2

2020-07-27 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
I agree with Lukas' points. While we adopted the Code Manifesto for ZF some years back, the problem we ran into was a lack of reporting guidelines; it's essentially an optimistic "be nice to each other and consider the impact your words/actions have on others" directive, with no recourse when

Re: FIG CoC - take 2

2020-07-21 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Aloha, thank you for bringing this up again. there were already quite a few comments on the PR at the time, which interested people should have a look at. I also share the concern that this CoC lacks explicitness which is why I also favor a covenant of code based CoC. this is what we created

FIG CoC - take 2

2020-07-19 Thread Larry Garfield
Hi folks. Last year I proposed a CoC for FIG, based on the Code Manifesto by Graham Daniels. It was subsequently edited a bit by former FIG Secretary Margaret Staples. I left it lie for a bit in the hopes that Margaret's changes would be merged back into the Code Manifesto proper, but that