Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[matthieu]

+1

Matthieu

On 23 May 2018 at 20:22 +0200, Woody Gilk , wrote:
> +1
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> > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney 
> >  wrote:
> > > +1 from me.
> > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:33 PM Matthew Weier O'Phinney <
> > > mweierophin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > After some lengthy debate this past week, we've reverted the changes to
> > > the
> > > > spec that required inheritance in factories for classes that have
> > > > collaborators. We feel those can be achieved via "union type" interfaces
> > > or
> > > > a "SuperFactory" (combining all interfaces into a single instance) that 
> > > > we
> > > > can ship in a `-util` package. Either way, it is out of scope for the 
> > > > spec
> > > > itself.
> > >
> > > > As such, Woody has delegated to me once again to open a vote to enter 
> > > > the
> > > > REVIEW period for PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group
> > > > members; at this time, that means:
> > >
> > > > - Woody Gilk (Editor)
> > > > - myself (Sponsor)
> > > > - Stefano Torresi
> > > > - Matthieu Napoli
> > > > - Korvin Szanto
> > > > - Glenn Eggleton
> > > > - Oscar Otero
> > > > - Tobias Nyholm
> > >
> > > > The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must 
> > > > run,
> > > > though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run until
> > > > 23:59:59 on 06 June 2018, or until all members have responded. Once the
> > > > vote is closed, I will post the results, and indicate next steps for the
> > > > proposal.
> > >
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Woody Gilk]

+1

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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <
mweierophin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 from me.
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:33 PM Matthew Weier O'Phinney <
> mweierophin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After some lengthy debate this past week, we've reverted the changes to
> the
> > spec that required inheritance in factories for classes that have
> > collaborators. We feel those can be achieved via "union type" interfaces
> or
> > a "SuperFactory" (combining all interfaces into a single instance) that
> we
> > can ship in a `-util` package. Either way, it is out of scope for the
> spec
> > itself.
>
> > As such, Woody has delegated to me once again to open a vote to enter the
> > REVIEW period for PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group
> > members; at this time, that means:
>
> > - Woody Gilk (Editor)
> > - myself (Sponsor)
> > - Stefano Torresi
> > - Matthieu Napoli
> > - Korvin Szanto
> > - Glenn Eggleton
> > - Oscar Otero
> > - Tobias Nyholm
>
> > The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must run,
> > though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run until
> > 23:59:59 on 06 June 2018, or until all members have responded. Once the
> > vote is closed, I will post the results, and indicate next steps for the
> > proposal.
>
> > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS
> LISTED
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

+1 from me.
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:33 PM Matthew Weier O'Phinney <
mweierophin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> After some lengthy debate this past week, we've reverted the changes to
the
> spec that required inheritance in factories for classes that have
> collaborators. We feel those can be achieved via "union type" interfaces
or
> a "SuperFactory" (combining all interfaces into a single instance) that we
> can ship in a `-util` package. Either way, it is out of scope for the spec
> itself.

> As such, Woody has delegated to me once again to open a vote to enter the
> REVIEW period for PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group
> members; at this time, that means:

> - Woody Gilk (Editor)
> - myself (Sponsor)
> - Stefano Torresi
> - Matthieu Napoli
> - Korvin Szanto
> - Glenn Eggleton
> - Oscar Otero
> - Tobias Nyholm

> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must run,
> though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run until
> 23:59:59 on 06 June 2018, or until all members have responded. Once the
> vote is closed, I will post the results, and indicate next steps for the
> proposal.

> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS
LISTED
> ABOVE.

> --
> Matthew Weier O'Phinney
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

I am going to end the vote at this point.

Based on discussions in the #PSR-14 FIG slack channel, it's clear that we
will need to make some changes to meet everyone's needs. As such, even if
we have the votes currently to go to review phase, we would likely need to
drop back to draft phase pretty quickly anyways.

I will call for a new vote once we have reached consensus.
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:05 AM Matthew Weier O'Phinney <
mweierophin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for
> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this
> time, that means:

> - Woody Gilk (Editor)
> - myself (Sponsor)
> - Stefano Torresi
> - Matthieu Napoli
> - Korvin Szanto
> - Glenn Eggleton
> - Oscar Otero
> - Tobias Nyholm

> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must
> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run
> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once
> the vote is closed, I
> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal.

> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS
> LISTED ABOVE.

> --
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Woody Gilk]

For the reasons that Stefano just mentioned, I am also changing my vote:

-1

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On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Stefano Torresi  wrote:

> We had an interesting discussion on the WG Slack channel and, as far as
> I'm concerned, I got to share the design concerns raised by Tobias and
> shared by Woody.
>
> As such, I'd like to change my vote to a -1, because I think the current
> draft can be made better by segregating the interfaces and avoiding the
> inheritance as suggested.
>
> The main argument for shipping extended interfaces for [Request|Response]
> FactoryInterface is easier end-user consumption, i.e. fewer collaborators
> to depend on.
> I ultimately think that, if such a purpose has to be attained, it should
> be done not at the expense of the simplicity of the overall design.
>
> Possible alternatives would be including a couple of facade interfaces in
> the standard, *in addition to simple ones*, or a full fledged composite
> implementation in a *-utils package.
>
> Il giorno sab 19 mag 2018 alle ore 09:01 Tobias Nyholm <
> tobias.nyh...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> I really like the work you've put in and I'm sorry I'm late replying
>> here.
>> As you may or may not know, I'm maintaining Buzz, HTTPlug (and sometimes
>> Guzzle). I've also written a PSR7 implementation with factories from
>> HTTPlug and php-interop. (https://github.com/nyholm/psr7)
>>
>> I've just read and tested(!!) the specification we are voting on. I'm not
>> sure it works to be honest. Here are a few things I found:
>>
>> *Namespace* (minor): Should we really share the namespace with PSR7?
>> Just use 'Psr\Http\MessageFactory'
>>
>> *Interfaces extending* (critical): I've read the arguments on the meta
>> document. The four bullets (https://github.com/php-fig/
>> fig-standards/blob/master/proposed/http-factory/http-
>> factory-meta.md#53-why-do-some-interfaces-extend-others) are all very
>> true but none is an argument for the interface to extend each other.
>>
>> The first bullet about this in the meta document says:
>> > The RequestFactoryInterface and ServerRequestFactoryInterface may each
>> need to build a UriInterface from a string URI.
>>
>> Inheritance is not the answer here. Please use a constructor to inject
>> the dependencies (or if you are lazy, do like me
>> https://github.com/Nyholm/psr7/blob/0.3.0/src/Request.php#L58).
>> Consider a MailFactoryInterface. The mail factory implementation may need
>> an EmailValidator. Should the MailFactoryInterface really extend
>> EmailValidatorInterface?...
>>
>> I found it very hard to write factory implementation with these
>> interfaces. Most of my classes have to extend each other and I have to put
>> the stream factory implementation in a Trait.
>>
>> *Existing libraries* (major): HTTPlug has been an "de-facto" standard
>> for almost 3 years now. The php-http/message-factory has been downloaded
>> over 4M times. We (HTTPlug) like PSR-17 and we think it is about time
>> PHP-Fig delivers a "real" standard for this. However, the current state of
>> PSR-17 will not allow HTTPlug to extend PSR-17. It will also not allow
>> implementing libraries (like guzzle/psr7 and nyholm/psr7) to have one
>> RequestFactory for both PSR-17 and HTTPlug.
>>
>> There is no mentioning about HTTPlug in the meta docs so I'm not sure it
>> has been discussed. This is important for the adoption of the PSR-17.
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> These are 3 of my concerns. I really hope that everybody in the working
>> group have considered these 3 things before you voted. Or else there I
>> believe there is a change to change your vote until the voting period is
>> over or until everybody has voted.
>>
>> I will give my vote on the 29th of May.
>>
>>
>>
>> Den torsdag 17 maj 2018 kl. 16:52:17 UTC+2 skrev Glenn Eggleton:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:06:02 PM UTC-4, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
>>> wrote:

 Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for
 PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this
 time, that means:

 - Woody Gilk (Editor)
 - myself (Sponsor)
 - Stefano Torresi
 - Matthieu Napoli
 - Korvin Szanto
 - Glenn Eggleton
 - Oscar Otero
 - Tobias Nyholm

 The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must
 run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run
 until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded.
 Once
 the vote is closed, I
 will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal.

 PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS
 LISTED ABOVE.

 --
 Matthew Weier O'Phinney
 mweiero...@gmail.com
 https://mwop.net/

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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Stefano Torresi]

We had an interesting discussion on the WG Slack channel and, as far as I'm
concerned, I got to share the design concerns raised by Tobias and shared
by Woody.

As such, I'd like to change my vote to a -1, because I think the current
draft can be made better by segregating the interfaces and avoiding the
inheritance as suggested.

The main argument for shipping extended interfaces for
[Request|Response]FactoryInterface is easier end-user consumption, i.e.
fewer collaborators to depend on.
I ultimately think that, if such a purpose has to be attained, it should be
done not at the expense of the simplicity of the overall design.

Possible alternatives would be including a couple of facade interfaces in
the standard, *in addition to simple ones*, or a full fledged composite
implementation in a *-utils package.

Il giorno sab 19 mag 2018 alle ore 09:01 Tobias Nyholm <
tobias.nyh...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> I really like the work you've put in and I'm sorry I'm late replying here.
> As you may or may not know, I'm maintaining Buzz, HTTPlug (and sometimes
> Guzzle). I've also written a PSR7 implementation with factories from
> HTTPlug and php-interop. (https://github.com/nyholm/psr7)
>
> I've just read and tested(!!) the specification we are voting on. I'm not
> sure it works to be honest. Here are a few things I found:
>
> *Namespace* (minor): Should we really share the namespace with PSR7? Just
> use 'Psr\Http\MessageFactory'
>
> *Interfaces extending* (critical): I've read the arguments on the meta
> document. The four bullets (
> https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/blob/master/proposed/http-factory/http-factory-meta.md#53-why-do-some-interfaces-extend-others)
> are all very true but none is an argument for the interface to extend each
> other.
>
> The first bullet about this in the meta document says:
> > The RequestFactoryInterface and ServerRequestFactoryInterface may each
> need to build a UriInterface from a string URI.
>
> Inheritance is not the answer here. Please use a constructor to inject the
> dependencies (or if you are lazy, do like me
> https://github.com/Nyholm/psr7/blob/0.3.0/src/Request.php#L58).
> Consider a MailFactoryInterface. The mail factory implementation may need
> an EmailValidator. Should the MailFactoryInterface really extend
> EmailValidatorInterface?...
>
> I found it very hard to write factory implementation with these
> interfaces. Most of my classes have to extend each other and I have to put
> the stream factory implementation in a Trait.
>
> *Existing libraries* (major): HTTPlug has been an "de-facto" standard for
> almost 3 years now. The php-http/message-factory has been downloaded over
> 4M times. We (HTTPlug) like PSR-17 and we think it is about time PHP-Fig
> delivers a "real" standard for this. However, the current state of PSR-17
> will not allow HTTPlug to extend PSR-17. It will also not allow
> implementing libraries (like guzzle/psr7 and nyholm/psr7) to have one
> RequestFactory for both PSR-17 and HTTPlug.
>
> There is no mentioning about HTTPlug in the meta docs so I'm not sure it
> has been discussed. This is important for the adoption of the PSR-17.
>
>
> -
>
> These are 3 of my concerns. I really hope that everybody in the working
> group have considered these 3 things before you voted. Or else there I
> believe there is a change to change your vote until the voting period is
> over or until everybody has voted.
>
> I will give my vote on the 29th of May.
>
>
>
> Den torsdag 17 maj 2018 kl. 16:52:17 UTC+2 skrev Glenn Eggleton:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:06:02 PM UTC-4, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for
>>> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this
>>> time, that means:
>>>
>>> - Woody Gilk (Editor)
>>> - myself (Sponsor)
>>> - Stefano Torresi
>>> - Matthieu Napoli
>>> - Korvin Szanto
>>> - Glenn Eggleton
>>> - Oscar Otero
>>> - Tobias Nyholm
>>>
>>> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must
>>> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run
>>> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once
>>> the vote is closed, I
>>> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal.
>>>
>>> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS
>>> LISTED ABOVE.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthew Weier O'Phinney
>>> mweiero...@gmail.com
>>> https://mwop.net/
>>>
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Tobias Nyholm]

I really like the work you've put in and I'm sorry I'm late replying here. 
As you may or may not know, I'm maintaining Buzz, HTTPlug (and sometimes 
Guzzle). I've also written a PSR7 implementation with factories from 
HTTPlug and php-interop. (https://github.com/nyholm/psr7)

I've just read and tested(!!) the specification we are voting on. I'm not 
sure it works to be honest. Here are a few things I found: 

*Namespace* (minor): Should we really share the namespace with PSR7? Just 
use 'Psr\Http\MessageFactory'

*Interfaces extending* (critical): I've read the arguments on the meta 
document. The four bullets 
(https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/blob/master/proposed/http-factory/http-factory-meta.md#53-why-do-some-interfaces-extend-others)
 
are all very true but none is an argument for the interface to extend each 
other. 

The first bullet about this in the meta document says: 
> The RequestFactoryInterface and ServerRequestFactoryInterface may each 
need to build a UriInterface from a string URI.

Inheritance is not the answer here. Please use a constructor to inject the 
dependencies (or if you are lazy, do like me 
https://github.com/Nyholm/psr7/blob/0.3.0/src/Request.php#L58). 
Consider a MailFactoryInterface. The mail factory implementation may need 
an EmailValidator. Should the MailFactoryInterface really extend 
EmailValidatorInterface?...

I found it very hard to write factory implementation with these interfaces. 
Most of my classes have to extend each other and I have to put the stream 
factory implementation in a Trait. 

*Existing libraries* (major): HTTPlug has been an "de-facto" standard for 
almost 3 years now. The php-http/message-factory has been downloaded over 
4M times. We (HTTPlug) like PSR-17 and we think it is about time PHP-Fig 
delivers a "real" standard for this. However, the current state of PSR-17 
will not allow HTTPlug to extend PSR-17. It will also not allow 
implementing libraries (like guzzle/psr7 and nyholm/psr7) to have one 
RequestFactory for both PSR-17 and HTTPlug. 

There is no mentioning about HTTPlug in the meta docs so I'm not sure it 
has been discussed. This is important for the adoption of the PSR-17. 


-

These are 3 of my concerns. I really hope that everybody in the working 
group have considered these 3 things before you voted. Or else there I 
believe there is a change to change your vote until the voting period is 
over or until everybody has voted. 
 
I will give my vote on the 29th of May. 



Den torsdag 17 maj 2018 kl. 16:52:17 UTC+2 skrev Glenn Eggleton:
>
> +1
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:06:02 PM UTC-4, Matthew Weier O'Phinney 
> wrote:
>>
>> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for 
>> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this 
>> time, that means: 
>>
>> - Woody Gilk (Editor) 
>> - myself (Sponsor) 
>> - Stefano Torresi 
>> - Matthieu Napoli 
>> - Korvin Szanto 
>> - Glenn Eggleton 
>> - Oscar Otero 
>> - Tobias Nyholm 
>>
>> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must 
>> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run 
>> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once 
>> the vote is closed, I 
>> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal. 
>>
>> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS 
>> LISTED ABOVE. 
>>
>> -- 
>> Matthew Weier O'Phinney 
>> mweiero...@gmail.com 
>> https://mwop.net/ 
>>
>

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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Glenn Eggleton]

+1

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:06:02 PM UTC-4, Matthew Weier O'Phinney 
wrote:
>
> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for 
> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this 
> time, that means: 
>
> - Woody Gilk (Editor) 
> - myself (Sponsor) 
> - Stefano Torresi 
> - Matthieu Napoli 
> - Korvin Szanto 
> - Glenn Eggleton 
> - Oscar Otero 
> - Tobias Nyholm 
>
> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must 
> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run 
> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once 
> the vote is closed, I 
> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal. 
>
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Matthieu Napoli]

+1

Le mardi 15 mai 2018 18:06:02 UTC+2, Matthew Weier O'Phinney a écrit :
>
> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for 
> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this 
> time, that means: 
>
> - Woody Gilk (Editor) 
> - myself (Sponsor) 
> - Stefano Torresi 
> - Matthieu Napoli 
> - Korvin Szanto 
> - Glenn Eggleton 
> - Oscar Otero 
> - Tobias Nyholm 
>
> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must 
> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run 
> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once 
> the vote is closed, I 
> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal. 
>
> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS 
> LISTED ABOVE. 
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Stefano Torresi]

+1

Il giorno mar 15 mag 2018 alle ore 19:05 Oscar Otero 
ha scritto:

> +1
>
>
> El 15 may 2018, a las 18:31, Woody Gilk  escribió:
>
> Thank you, Matthew
>
> +1
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 11:06:02 AM UTC-5, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> wrote:
>>
>> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for
>> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this
>> time, that means:
>>
>> - Woody Gilk (Editor)
>> - myself (Sponsor)
>> - Stefano Torresi
>> - Matthieu Napoli
>> - Korvin Szanto
>> - Glenn Eggleton
>> - Oscar Otero
>> - Tobias Nyholm
>>
>> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must
>> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run
>> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once
>> the vote is closed, I
>> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal.
>>
>> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS
>> LISTED ABOVE.
>>
>> --
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>> mweiero...@gmail.com
>> https://mwop.net/
>>
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Oscar Otero]

+1

> El 15 may 2018, a las 18:31, Woody Gilk  escribió:
> 
> Thank you, Matthew
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 11:06:02 AM UTC-5, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for 
> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this 
> time, that means: 
> 
> - Woody Gilk (Editor) 
> - myself (Sponsor) 
> - Stefano Torresi 
> - Matthieu Napoli 
> - Korvin Szanto 
> - Glenn Eggleton 
> - Oscar Otero 
> - Tobias Nyholm 
> 
> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must 
> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run 
> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once 
> the vote is closed, I 
> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal. 
> 
> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS 
> LISTED ABOVE. 
> 
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Woody Gilk]

Thank you, Matthew

+1



On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 11:06:02 AM UTC-5, Matthew Weier O'Phinney 
wrote:
>
> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for 
> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this 
> time, that means: 
>
> - Woody Gilk (Editor) 
> - myself (Sponsor) 
> - Stefano Torresi 
> - Matthieu Napoli 
> - Korvin Szanto 
> - Glenn Eggleton 
> - Oscar Otero 
> - Tobias Nyholm 
>
> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must 
> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run 
> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once 
> the vote is closed, I 
> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal. 
>
> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS 
> LISTED ABOVE. 
>
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Korvin Szanto]

+1

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 9:06:02 AM UTC-7, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
>
> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for 
> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this 
> time, that means: 
>
> - Woody Gilk (Editor) 
> - myself (Sponsor) 
> - Stefano Torresi 
> - Matthieu Napoli 
> - Korvin Szanto 
> - Glenn Eggleton 
> - Oscar Otero 
> - Tobias Nyholm 
>
> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must 
> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run 
> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once 
> the vote is closed, I 
> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal. 
>
> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS 
> LISTED ABOVE. 
>
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Re: [WG][VOTE] PSR-17 Review

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

+1 from me, clearly.
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:05 AM Matthew Weier O'Phinney <
mweierophin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Woody has delegated to me to open a vote to enter the REVIEW period for
> PSR-17. This vote is open only to PSR-17 Working Group members; at this
> time, that means:

> - Woody Gilk (Editor)
> - myself (Sponsor)
> - Stefano Torresi
> - Matthieu Napoli
> - Korvin Szanto
> - Glenn Eggleton
> - Oscar Otero
> - Tobias Nyholm

> The by-laws do not stipulate a time-frame for how long the vote must
> run, though 2 weeks is the standard period. As such, the vote will run
> until 23:59:59 on 29 May 2018, or until all members have responded. Once
> the vote is closed, I
> will post the results, and indicate next steps for the proposal.

> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MEMBERS
> LISTED ABOVE.

> --
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> https://mwop.net/



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