On Sun, June 26, 2005 12:57 pm, M Saleh EG said:
In all the cases if someone thinks a framework is bloated. Should just
keep
it bloated for him/herself. Programmers, and specially PHP programmers who
are the majority of web-programming in IT labor market. So being it
bloated
for someone or
On Sat, June 25, 2005 7:32 am, Matthew Weier O'Phinney said:
* Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I also tend to stay away from PEAR, which is kinda bloated for my
taste, except the Log package.
rant
I hear that a lot on this list, and I don't understand the reasoning
behind such comments --
In general, anyone could then say oh .Net framework, Java framework,
CPAN, or then any other full blown frameworks bloated!
I believe these kind of posts would not effect noone but it might create a
bad perception for the net/platform voyagers!
Every framework, be it based on a language or an
On 6/24/05, Joe Muddah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks a bunch. I have alot of work now ahead of me to decide which
framework to use. Any opinions on which one is the best?
I've used Mojavi heavily and I dabbled with Binarycloud a bit.
I like Ruby on Rails best:
http://www.rubyonrails.org/
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 21:45, Greg Donald wrote:
On 6/24/05, Joe Muddah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks a bunch. I have alot of work now ahead of me to decide which
framework to use. Any opinions on which one is the best?
I've used Mojavi heavily and I dabbled with Binarycloud a bit.
I
Hi,
I personally use phrame because it's small, pretty fast, easy to setup
and was enough for my needs, although it does not seem to be maintained
anymore.
I think you should choose the one which better suits the needs of your
project.
It's rather hard to say that framework is
* Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I also tend to stay away from PEAR, which is kinda bloated for my
taste, except the Log package.
rant
I hear that a lot on this list, and I don't understand the reasoning
behind such comments -- perhaps because nobody offers any reasoning,
only the opinion?
On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 10:32, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I also tend to stay away from PEAR, which is kinda bloated for my
taste, except the Log package.
rant
I hear that a lot on this list, and I don't understand the reasoning
behind such comments
* Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 10:32, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I also tend to stay away from PEAR, which is kinda bloated for my
taste, except the Log package.
rant
I hear that a lot on this list, and I don't
Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
I also tend to stay away from PEAR, which is kinda bloated for my
taste, except the Log package.
rant
I hear that a lot on this list, and I don't understand the reasoning
behind such comments -- perhaps because nobody offers any reasoning,
only the opinion?
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 10:32:41AM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
If somebody could offer some *constructive* criticism of PEAR -- PEAR as
it is TODAY, not 3 years ago, when I last tried it -- these comments
would have more weight. As it is, I feel they're just FUD based on
ignorance.
Paul Waring wrote:
I've used both PEAR and CPAN for a few years now and I've noticed that
CPAN tends to win hands down in terms of documentation and updates. That
might just be down to the particular packages I've happened to use but
given a choice I know which one I'd rather use.
Yeah, you're
On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 11:06, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 10:32, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I also tend to stay away from PEAR, which is kinda bloated for my
taste, except the Log
* Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 11:06, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 10:32, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I also tend to stay away from PEAR, which is kinda
* Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 10:32:41AM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
If somebody could offer some *constructive* criticism of PEAR -- PEAR as
it is TODAY, not 3 years ago, when I last tried it -- these comments
would have more weight. As it is, I feel
Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
The perl culture is one that includes testing and documentation as
the norm
You might be interested to know that there is a PHP equivalent for
Test::More, the CPAN library that prompted the testing revolution that
Perl seems to have undergone in the past five
I don't think a lot of people think tat PEAR sucks, we are all, as a
community, just looking for ways to make it better.
C
On 6/25/05, Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
The perl culture is one that includes testing and documentation as
the norm
You
Hi,
I feel like I should answer your anger towards my opinion.
First of all I consider PEAR to be bloated for the following reasons;
it's a large library, it tries to cover a very general approach and
please 99% of case one may encounter. It's exception system is overused and
the
* Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
The perl culture is one that includes testing and documentation as
the norm
You might be interested to know that there is a PHP equivalent for
Test::More, the CPAN library that prompted the testing revolution that
Perl
* Colin Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I don't think a lot of people think tat PEAR sucks, we are all, as a
community, just looking for ways to make it better.
I don't think a lot of people think it sucks; it's just that I often see
statements on this list like 'PEAR sucks' or 'PEAR is bloated'
* Joe Muddah [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I am trying to design a website archeticture. Does anyone have any
links or experience with archetictures that actually work. Any ideas
of how to layout a website would be greatly appreciated.
This is what I am thinking of doing
1)Seperate Logic from
Hi,
You can take a look at phrame.sf.net, phpmvc.net, horder.org, binarycloud.com
adodb.sf.net (for fast db abstraction layer).
Read around and one of those will surely satisfy your needs.
Catalin
Joe Muddah wrote:
I am trying to design a website archeticture. Does anyone have
Thanks a bunch. I have alot of work now ahead of me to decide which
framework to use. Any opinions on which one is the best?
On 6/24/05, Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
You can take a look at phrame.sf.net, phpmvc.net, horder.org,
binarycloud.com
adodb.sf.net (for fast
On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 23:41, Joe Muddah wrote:
Thanks a bunch. I have alot of work now ahead of me to decide which
framework to use. Any opinions on which one is the best?
InterJinn of course.
Cheers,
Rob.
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