Re: [PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-25 Thread Ivo F.A.C. Fokkema
[SNIP] As for PNG: As far as I know, the only issue with any realistic browser (other than very old ones like IE2 or something) is that the alpha channel is not supported. As there is no alpha channel in JPEG, so there is no difference. Though I do not profess to be absolutely sure

Re: [PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-25 Thread Ivo F.A.C. Fokkema
[SNIP] Considering in this thread where I left the quality at 100% and reduced the image to less 40 percent of the original, and the end result was that I actually made a larger file. So, I belive that at least this example shows that 100% is not a good quality value setting for reducing

Re: [PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-24 Thread Alex Turner
As I promised, here is the writeup with examples: http://nerds-central.blogspot.com/2006/08/choosing-file-format-for-small-web.html Cheers AJ tedd wrote: Alex: Excuse for top posting: You said: Clear as mud? Well actually, it's simperer than I thought. After your reply, I did some

[PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-24 Thread tedd
To: Alex Turner; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: TPN POSSIBLE SPAM:[PHP] Re: Why small big? Alex: Excuse for top posting: You said: Clear as mud? Well actually, it's simperer than I thought. After your reply, I did some reading on jpeg and found it's simply a transform, not unlike FFT where

[PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-23 Thread M. Sokolewicz
I'm not quite sure, but consider the following: Considering the fact that most JPEG images are stored with some form of compression usually ~75% that would mean the original image, in actual size, is about 1.33x bigger than it appears in filesize. When you make a thumbnail, you limit the

[PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-23 Thread Alex Turner
M Sokolewice got it nearly correct. However, the situation is a little more complex than he has discussed. The % compression figure for jpeg is translated into the amount of information stored in the reverse cosine matrix. The size of the compressed file is not proportional to the % you set

[PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-23 Thread tedd
Alex: Excuse for top posting: You said: Clear as mud? Well actually, it's simperer than I thought. After your reply, I did some reading on jpeg and found it's simply a transform, not unlike FFT where two-dimensional temporal data is transformed from the time domain to the frequency domain

Re: [PHP] Re: Why small big?

2006-08-23 Thread Alex Turner
Tedd, Sorry for the floppy language. You are quite correct, the name is discrete cosine. I get too relaxed sometimes! As to the visual impact of a degree of compression, I don't think that you can automate this. The issue surrounds the way the brain processes information. When you see