i'm still battling with gd and php and freetype. This was a non issue before i upgraded to 4.0.6 look. Warning: libgd was not built with TrueType font support in /virt/jrehomes/www/tvhc/test/image.php on line 4 Warning: libgd was not built with TrueType font support in /virt/jrehomes/www/tvhc/test/image.php on line 15 phpinfo says diff. GD Support enabled GD Version 1.6.2 or higher FreeType Support enabled FreeType Linkage with freetype GIF Support enabled PNG Support enabled WBMP Support enabled heres my configure line ./configure --with-apache=../apache_1.3.20 --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql --enable-ftp --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/src/jpeg-6b --with-png-dir=/usr/src/libpng-1.0.9 --with-gd=/usr/src/gd-1.8.3 --enable-calander --with-imap=/usr/src/imap-4.5 --with-zlib-dir=/usr/src/zlib-1.1.3 --with-freetype-dir=/usr/src/freetype-2.0.4 --enable-sockets --enable-gd-imgstrttf any ideas? ~kurth -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]