Re: [PHP]
Thanks Ash, and so sorry I forgot to use the subject... ok, I'll read about insertBefore () method, Regards, te0
[PHP] HTML in emails
I know this is a bit off-topic; but close enough. I'm starting to update the email feature of one of my DB applications and noticed that it appears most of the fancy emails I receive are using just plain old, simple html pages, with a note about not being able to see, go here with a link. It use to be that we specified content-type text/html, etc. and sent both the plain ASCII and the html with boundaries and so forth. Seems like, from my preliminary Google searching, I should not waste time with the standard's way and just go straight to sending simple html pages since all modern browsers handle it well. And, it appears to be the way web is going. What are you folks doing? Al.. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] HTML in emails
Al wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic; but close enough. I'm starting to update the email feature of one of my DB applications and noticed that it appears most of the fancy emails I receive are using just plain old, simple html pages, with a note about not being able to see, go here with a link. It use to be that we specified content-type text/html, etc. and sent both the plain ASCII and the html with boundaries and so forth. Yes, multipart/alternative that was. Seems like, from my preliminary Google searching, I should not waste time with the standard's way and just go straight to sending simple html pages since all modern browsers handle it well. And, it appears to be the way web is going. What are you folks doing? We follow the standard and send both text and html. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (24.5°C) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: HTML in emails
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 11:43:59 -0400, Al wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic; but close enough. I'm starting to update the email feature of one of my DB applications and noticed that it appears most of the fancy emails I receive are using just plain old, simple html pages, with a note about not being able to see, go here with a link. It use to be that we specified content-type text/html, etc. and sent both the plain ASCII and the html with boundaries and so forth. Seems like, from my preliminary Google searching, I should not waste time with the standard's way and just go straight to sending simple html pages since all modern browsers handle it well. And, it appears to be the way web is going. What are you folks doing? In general, I simply do _not_ read fancy emails.Alpine 2.00 here. I *browse* with a browser -- nothing more. html in email seems to be all about eye candy -- not content. I don't waste time looking for the 'content' in an email where it appears more effort was applied to the dancing elephants and flying pigs than was put into the message. Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones| jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 * Killfiling google banter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] HTML in emails
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:31:38PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: Al wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic; but close enough. I'm starting to update the email feature of one of my DB applications and noticed that it appears most of the fancy emails I receive are using just plain old, simple html pages, with a note about not being able to see, go here with a link. Such emails are stupid. Obviously I can read the email quite fine. The problem is that there is no useful content. Just an instruction to click on a link. It use to be that we specified content-type text/html, etc. and sent both the plain ASCII and the html with boundaries and so forth. Yes, multipart/alternative that was. Seems like, from my preliminary Google searching, I should not waste time with the standard's way and just go straight to sending simple html pages since all modern browsers handle it well. And, it appears to be the way web is going. Then I will never read your email. Browsers are for web pages, not email. What are you folks doing? We follow the standard and send both text and html. The text portion is the *only* portion I read. -- When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but creatures of emotion. -- Dale Carnegie Rick Pasottor...@niof.nethttp://www.niof.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] form validation and error display
Hello, I've got a form with several required fields of different types. I want to have the php script process it only when all the required fields are present, and to redisplay the form with filled in values on failure so the user won't have to fill out the whole thing again. One of my required fields is a text input field called name. If it's not filled out the form displayed will show this: input type=text name=name id=name size=50 value=?php echo($name); ? / br / Note, I've got $_POST* variable processing before this so am assigning that processing to short variables. If that field is filled out, but another required one is not that form field will fill in the value entered for the name field. This is working for my text input fields, but not for either select boxes or textareas. Here's the textarea also a required field: textarea name=description id=description cols=50 rows=10 value=?php echo($description); ?/textarea What this does, if a user fills out this field, but misses another, it should echo the value of what was originally submitted. It is not doing this. Same for my select boxes, here's one: select name=type id=type value=?php echo($type); ? option value=0 selected=selected-- select type --/option option value=meeting - Meeting - /option option value=event - Event - /option /select I'd also like for any not entered required fields to have an error box around them, I've got a css class to handle this, but am not sure how to tie it in to the fields since any one of the required fields could not be filled in. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks. Dave. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] HTML in emails
Rick Pasotto wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:31:38PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: We follow the standard and send both text and html. The text portion is the *only* portion I read. Cool, that is the whole point. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (24.3°C) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] curl
I have an old unix fedora system with php 4.3.11, with the following recompiled options $ php -version PHP 4.3.11 (cli) (built: Jun 6 2006 16:20:00) Copyright (c) 1997-2004 The PHP Group Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies $ php -info | grep configure Configure Command = './configure' '--enable-discard-path' '--enable-track-vars' '--enable-force-cgi-redirect' '--with-gettext' '--with-mysql' '--enable-so' '--with-apxs2' '--with-gd' '--with-zlib' '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr/lib' '--enable-libgcc' am planning to add the curl option to it, what would be the best approach for that. stop http, configure with--curl, make, make install feedback appreciated. Thanks -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] curl
# yum install php4-curl or # yum install php-curl Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] HTML in emails
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 11:43:59AM -0400, Al wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic; but close enough. I'm starting to update the email feature of one of my DB applications and noticed that it appears most of the fancy emails I receive are using just plain old, simple html pages, with a note about not being able to see, go here with a link. It use to be that we specified content-type text/html, etc. and sent both the plain ASCII and the html with boundaries and so forth. Seems like, from my preliminary Google searching, I should not waste time with the standard's way and just go straight to sending simple html pages since all modern browsers handle it well. And, it appears to be the way web is going. What are you folks doing? I use mutt for email, so I only see the text portion. That make me an anomaly. However, for example there are various listserv software that will not allow HTML in emails. Here is the real problem with HTML email. Any straight text message will swell to many times its size when you HTML-ize it. Okay, so now you're sending the message around the internet to perhaps hundreds or thousands of users, using up many times the bandwidth that the actual message really needs. It's like installing a 100w light bulb when a 60w will do. There's simply no reason to suck CPU cycles all over the internet just to make your message prettier. I understand that the functions of email and browser seem to be merging. However, this is what I would consider a bad trend. It stems from folks like Microsoft who have convinced people, for example, that spreadsheets function perfectly well as databases. They don't, but that doesn't stop people from using Excel to keep their mailing lists. Of course, opinions like mine won't stop the merging of browsing and reading email. Ah well. Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] form validation and error display
David, If I understand your problem/issue here, you are talking about something called 'sticky forms'. This means - (i) the form references itself. (ii) that the form knows what the previous data was when it encounters any validation issues. You achieve (i) and (ii) by re-submitting the form with the usage of a superglobal variable called $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']. form method='POST' action =php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] ? Regards, Shreyas On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:27 PM, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've got a form with several required fields of different types. I want to have the php script process it only when all the required fields are present, and to redisplay the form with filled in values on failure so the user won't have to fill out the whole thing again. One of my required fields is a text input field called name. If it's not filled out the form displayed will show this: input type=text name=name id=name size=50 value=?php echo($name); ? / br / Note, I've got $_POST* variable processing before this so am assigning that processing to short variables. If that field is filled out, but another required one is not that form field will fill in the value entered for the name field. This is working for my text input fields, but not for either select boxes or textareas. Here's the textarea also a required field: textarea name=description id=description cols=50 rows=10 value=?php echo($description); ?/textarea What this does, if a user fills out this field, but misses another, it should echo the value of what was originally submitted. It is not doing this. Same for my select boxes, here's one: select name=type id=type value=?php echo($type); ? option value=0 selected=selected-- select type --/option option value=meeting - Meeting - /option option value=event - Event - /option /select I'd also like for any not entered required fields to have an error box around them, I've got a css class to handle this, but am not sure how to tie it in to the fields since any one of the required fields could not be filled in. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks. Dave. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Regards, Shreyas Agasthya
Re: [PHP] form validation and error display
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 01:57:01PM -0400, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,
I've got a form with several required fields of different types. I
want to have the php script process it only when all the required
fields are present, and to redisplay the form with filled in values on
failure so the user won't have to fill out the whole thing again.
One of my required fields is a text input field called name. If it's
not filled out the form displayed will show this:
input type=text name=name id=name size=50 value=?php
echo($name); ? / br /
Note, I've got $_POST* variable processing before this so am assigning
that processing to short variables.
If that field is filled out, but another required one is not that form
field will fill in the value entered for the name field.
This is working for my text input fields, but not for either select
boxes or textareas. Here's the textarea also a required field:
textarea name=description id=description cols=50 rows=10
value=?php echo($description); ?/textarea
Textarea fields don't work this way. To display the prior value, you
have to do this:
textarea name=description?php echo $description; ?/textarea
What this does, if a user fills out this field, but misses another, it
should echo the value of what was originally submitted. It is not
doing this. Same for my select boxes, here's one:
select name=type id=type value=?php echo($type); ?
option value=0 selected=selected-- select type --/option
option value=meeting - Meeting - /option
option value=event - Event - /option
/select
The value attribute of a select field won't do this for you. You have
to actually set up each option with an either/or choice, like this:
option value=0 ?php if ($type == 'meeting') echo 'selected=selected';
? - Meeting - /option
Since doing this is pretty tedious, I use a function here instead:
function set_selected($fieldname, $value)
{
if ($_POST[$fieldname] == $value)
echo 'selected=selected';
}
And then
option value=meeting ?php set_selected('type', 'meeting');
?Meeting/option
HTH,
Paul
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Re: [PHP] form validation and error display
Hello everyone,
Thanks for your suggestions.
For my variable in the value area of the text input field I enter
value=?php echo $name; ?
Prior to this I assign the variable $name to:
$name = stripslashes($_POST['name']);
I hope this is correct.
Sticky forms sounds exactly what i'm looking for. I've changed my
action attribute to
?php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?
The first thing I do once the page is loaded is check whether or not
submit is set, if it is not I display the form, which is in a function
call. If submit is set I want to begtin validation, so i'm deciding to
merge my two files in to one, I like this better. My question is say
for example the name text field is not filled out but all the other
required fields are how do I get the form to redisplay itself? I was
thinking a location redirect, but this doesn't sound right.
Thanks.
Dave.
On 7/4/10, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 01:57:01PM -0400, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,
I've got a form with several required fields of different types. I
want to have the php script process it only when all the required
fields are present, and to redisplay the form with filled in values on
failure so the user won't have to fill out the whole thing again.
One of my required fields is a text input field called name. If it's
not filled out the form displayed will show this:
input type=text name=name id=name size=50 value=?php
echo($name); ? / br /
Note, I've got $_POST* variable processing before this so am assigning
that processing to short variables.
If that field is filled out, but another required one is not that form
field will fill in the value entered for the name field.
This is working for my text input fields, but not for either select
boxes or textareas. Here's the textarea also a required field:
textarea name=description id=description cols=50 rows=10
value=?php echo($description); ?/textarea
Textarea fields don't work this way. To display the prior value, you
have to do this:
textarea name=description?php echo $description; ?/textarea
What this does, if a user fills out this field, but misses another, it
should echo the value of what was originally submitted. It is not
doing this. Same for my select boxes, here's one:
select name=type id=type value=?php echo($type); ?
option value=0 selected=selected-- select type --/option
option value=meeting - Meeting - /option
option value=event - Event - /option
/select
The value attribute of a select field won't do this for you. You have
to actually set up each option with an either/or choice, like this:
option value=0 ?php if ($type == 'meeting') echo 'selected=selected';
? - Meeting - /option
Since doing this is pretty tedious, I use a function here instead:
function set_selected($fieldname, $value)
{
if ($_POST[$fieldname] == $value)
echo 'selected=selected';
}
And then
option value=meeting ?php set_selected('type', 'meeting');
?Meeting/option
HTH,
Paul
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Re: [PHP] HTML in emails
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 17:06 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 11:43:59AM -0400, Al wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic; but close enough. I'm starting to update the email feature of one of my DB applications and noticed that it appears most of the fancy emails I receive are using just plain old, simple html pages, with a note about not being able to see, go here with a link. It use to be that we specified content-type text/html, etc. and sent both the plain ASCII and the html with boundaries and so forth. Seems like, from my preliminary Google searching, I should not waste time with the standard's way and just go straight to sending simple html pages since all modern browsers handle it well. And, it appears to be the way web is going. What are you folks doing? I use mutt for email, so I only see the text portion. That make me an anomaly. However, for example there are various listserv software that will not allow HTML in emails. Here is the real problem with HTML email. Any straight text message will swell to many times its size when you HTML-ize it. Okay, so now you're sending the message around the internet to perhaps hundreds or thousands of users, using up many times the bandwidth that the actual message really needs. It's like installing a 100w light bulb when a 60w will do. There's simply no reason to suck CPU cycles all over the internet just to make your message prettier. I understand that the functions of email and browser seem to be merging. However, this is what I would consider a bad trend. It stems from folks like Microsoft who have convinced people, for example, that spreadsheets function perfectly well as databases. They don't, but that doesn't stop people from using Excel to keep their mailing lists. Of course, opinions like mine won't stop the merging of browsing and reading email. Ah well. Paul -- Paul M. Foster I agree. Obviously the proliferation of free webmail accounts like Live, GMail, Yahoo, etc have had a large impact on the way people consider email. I actually had a friend ask me what this POP3 email thing was, and what made it different from normal email, and it took me a moment to realise his understanding of normal was one of these webmail services available through the browser! It is nice to be able to format emails nicely, but you have to realise when to restrain yourself. I've been getting loads of emails from Adobe lately that haven't been formatted well at all, and appear awfully in my email client (Evolution, which I consider to be a very good client) until I download all the images they've used as backgrounds. It's situations like this that give HTML emails an awful name. One feature I've seen in some mailing list software is the ability to track how people prefer their email formatted, so that you only send HTML emails to those that want them, and text emails to those who prefer that method. It's the best of both worlds I reckon, and one that is likely to upset as few people as possible; at the worst they might receive one email in a format they don't want before they change their preferences. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] form validation and error display
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:23 -0400, David Mehler wrote:
Hello everyone,
Thanks for your suggestions.
For my variable in the value area of the text input field I enter
value=?php echo $name; ?
Prior to this I assign the variable $name to:
$name = stripslashes($_POST['name']);
I hope this is correct.
Sticky forms sounds exactly what i'm looking for. I've changed my
action attribute to
?php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?
The first thing I do once the page is loaded is check whether or not
submit is set, if it is not I display the form, which is in a function
call. If submit is set I want to begtin validation, so i'm deciding to
merge my two files in to one, I like this better. My question is say
for example the name text field is not filled out but all the other
required fields are how do I get the form to redisplay itself? I was
thinking a location redirect, but this doesn't sound right.
Thanks.
Dave.
On 7/4/10, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 01:57:01PM -0400, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,
I've got a form with several required fields of different types. I
want to have the php script process it only when all the required
fields are present, and to redisplay the form with filled in values on
failure so the user won't have to fill out the whole thing again.
One of my required fields is a text input field called name. If it's
not filled out the form displayed will show this:
input type=text name=name id=name size=50 value=?php
echo($name); ? / br /
Note, I've got $_POST* variable processing before this so am assigning
that processing to short variables.
If that field is filled out, but another required one is not that form
field will fill in the value entered for the name field.
This is working for my text input fields, but not for either select
boxes or textareas. Here's the textarea also a required field:
textarea name=description id=description cols=50 rows=10
value=?php echo($description); ?/textarea
Textarea fields don't work this way. To display the prior value, you
have to do this:
textarea name=description?php echo $description; ?/textarea
What this does, if a user fills out this field, but misses another, it
should echo the value of what was originally submitted. It is not
doing this. Same for my select boxes, here's one:
select name=type id=type value=?php echo($type); ?
option value=0 selected=selected-- select type --/option
option value=meeting - Meeting - /option
option value=event - Event - /option
/select
The value attribute of a select field won't do this for you. You have
to actually set up each option with an either/or choice, like this:
option value=0 ?php if ($type == 'meeting') echo 'selected=selected';
? - Meeting - /option
Since doing this is pretty tedious, I use a function here instead:
function set_selected($fieldname, $value)
{
if ($_POST[$fieldname] == $value)
echo 'selected=selected';
}
And then
option value=meeting ?php set_selected('type', 'meeting');
?Meeting/option
HTH,
Paul
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$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] is not to be trusted, and shouldn't be used as the
action of a form like this.
http://www.mc2design.com/blog/php_self-safe-alternatives explains it all
better than I can here, so it's worth a read, but it does list safe
alternatives.
One thing I do when creating sticky select lists is this:
$colours = array('red', 'green', 'blue', 'yellow', 'pink');
echo 'select name=colour';
for($i=0; $icount($colours); $i++)
{
$selected = (isset($_POST['colour']) $_POST['colour'] ==
$i)?'selected=selected':'';
echo option value=\$i\ $selected{$colours[$i]}/option;
}
echo '/select';
Basically, this uses PHP to not only output the list from an array
(which itself can be populated from a database maybe) and select the
right option if it exists in the $_POST array and matches the current
option in the loop that's being output.
Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] HTML in emails
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 11:44:29PM +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: snip It is nice to be able to format emails nicely, but you have to realise when to restrain yourself. I've been getting loads of emails from Adobe lately that haven't been formatted well at all, and appear awfully in my email client (Evolution, which I consider to be a very good client) until I download all the images they've used as backgrounds. It's situations like this that give HTML emails an awful name. Isn't this a popular exploit these days? I don't really watch these things since I use Linux and view mail as straight text. But isn't there some current exploit where images which can be downloaded as part of an email actually contain code which can be used to sniff your system or somesuch? Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
