Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

PHP Developer wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate . 
Thank ya
  




Any email client that uses the presence or absence of a Re: header to 
decide if posts are related is severely broken.


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Danial Rahmanzadeh wrote:

hey,
I use Gmail but i have the same problem.




Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!

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Re: [PHP] Why is the default value for arg_separator.output ''?

2005-04-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Tom Rogers wrote:
 You can set this with arg_separator.output  in php.ini

That doesn't really answer why the choice was made to default to what 
not only shouldn't be the default, but should probably be illegal 
altogether.

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Re: [PHP] Why is the default value for arg_separator.output ''?

2005-04-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Richard Lynch wrote:
Why in the world should we be forced to follow your narrow-minded
so-called standard?  :-)
 

Hint: smileys indicate that you're joking.  If you're joking, I don't 
get what's humorous -- please explain.  If you're making a serious point 
but trying to have the rhetorical equivalent of no offense, but... you 
should probably know that any time someone says no offense, but... 
they really mean to offend but get off scot-free.

Furthermore, the  as separator pre-dates amp; by *years* and billions of
lines of code could be affected by altering the default.
So, really, Backwards Compatibility alone makes this a no-brainer default
value of:  
So default behaviors should never change?!  Absurd.  you should be 
notified that they are changed, and should have a mechanism to configure 
for the previous behavior... but they have to be allowed to change as 
standards do.

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Re: [PHP] parsing question ('010.000.080.001' == `10.0.80.1`) how to be 'true'?

2004-04-08 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Galkov Vladimir wrote:

Two tables have diferent standarts to hold IP adresses:

first:
045.012.001.002
003.000.123.231
123.230.101.080
second:
45.12.1.2
3.0.123.231
123.230.101.80
 



Are you aware that these don't mean the same thing?  Leading zeroes mean 
an IP address quad is in octal.

If you enter 045.012.001.002 you're actually saying 37.10.1.2...

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Re: [PHP] problem with the function mssql_list_tables()

2004-03-24 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
John W. Holmes wrote:

From: Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

How do you do the equivalent of mysql_list_tables() in PHP when running
against a SQL Server database?
   

Ah... I assume there's no SHOW TABLES query in MSSQL? Isn't there a system
table in each database that you can query for the table names?
 



I was translating (or rather, untangling the bogus auto-translation), 
not asking.  :)

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Re: [PHP] problem with the function mssql_list_tables()

2004-03-24 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
John W. Holmes wrote:

From: German [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Hello, it wanted to know how as profit to 
supplant the function mysql_list_tables() for 
SQL server server or like the tables of one 
db of SQL server in php...
   

It has no idea what you just said. 

 



How do you do the equivalent of mysql_list_tables() in PHP when running 
against a SQL Server database?

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RE: [PHP] password protect a pdf

2004-02-24 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 I'm trying to password protect an online PDF file.  I know 
 how to use PHP to
 pw protect a webpage, but what would be the best way to 
 protect access to a
 nonwebpage file?

Stick it in its own directory and use htaccess... Or password-protect it
when you generate it.

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RE: [PHP] Re: Using date() with the function fileatime() doesn't return accurate timestamp...

2004-02-12 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Oh I understand now.  There is a different between 
 fileatime(), filectime()
 and filemtime(), with a letter 'a', 'c' or 'm'...  The one 
 with the m is
 what work with Unix/Linux..

Um, they all work with Unix/Linux -- they just mean different things.

Atime is the time a file was last accessed.
Mtime is the time the contents of a file were last modified.
Ctime is the time the metadata about a file -- length, owner, permissions,
times -- were last updated.

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RE: [PHP] pass output of php scripts through command line programor cgi

2004-01-16 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Sorry, but what command line are you talking about?

He didn't say he'd like to execute his PHP scripts from a shell prompt.

He said that he'd like the output of his PHP scripts to be filtered before
httpd outputs them.

 on the commandline you need to have the php executable on your
 path...then run 
 
 php -f [filename]
 
 so 
 
 php -f index.php
 
 that will do it for you.
 
 --
 Ray
 
 On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 05:44, Paul William wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I want to run the output of all the php scripts running on my apache
  server through a command line or CGI program. I do not want 
 to modify
  any of the php scripts.Has anyone done this? Is this possible?
  
  For example (this is a stupid example and I am not using it 
 for this):
  
  The output of index.php is:
  
  html
  ...
  /table
  /body
  /html
  
  then that output is run through addfooter (a command line script)
  which results in:
  
  html
  ...
  /table
  br/bThe footer is inserted here./b
  /body
  /html
  
  Then apache outputs the above html.
  
  Any ideas?
  
  Thanks
  
  Paul
  
  
  
  -- 
  
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  : :'  :Debian admin and user
  `. `'`
`-  Debian - when you have better things to do than 
 fixing a system
 
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RE: [PHP] How to use PHP to view the file permision???

2003-12-08 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Um, not sure what this meant with the fileperms() function.  
 I have file
 permission as -rw-r--r-- or 644 and when using hte 
 fileperms() funciton,
 it spitted a result as 33188.  If you know what it is then 
 I'm all ear!

33188 (base 10) == 0x100644 (base 8).

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RE: [PHP] Add Reply-To to this list(s)

2003-11-26 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 you don't need special privs to use another mail program.

Actually, given the fact that the other products you're talking about are
POP or IMAP clients, and most Exchange-based companies allow only MAPI
clients (specifically Outlook and the Outlook Web Access client), that could
easily be considered special privs.

 And why on earth should I care about Exchange anyway?  But
 that's only if you need Exchange-specific features; Exchange 
 also talks
 to real mail clients via IMAP and POP3.

Not by default -- only if you *want* to enable other clients (which will not
be able to access full Exchange functionality).

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RE: [PHP] Add Reply-To to this list(s)

2003-11-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 This is simply impossible.  This list is propagated to places other
 than the mailing list (ie. news.php.net)

So?  What negative impact would a Reply-To: header have on a newsgroup?  It
doesn't affect followups...

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RE: [PHP] Add Reply-To to this list(s)

2003-11-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Have you tried other popular mail clients like those from Eudora or even
 Netscape/Mozilla?

Neither Eudora nor Mozilla support RFC2369 headers.

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RE: [PHP] Add Reply-To to this list(s)

2003-11-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 I'm using the browser but not the email and news client so
 I'm not sure but I just came across this: (Pls. check under
 subheading Mailing lists.)
 
  
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/opera/m2/folders/?test=pop

 And, umm... PHP in Opera looks great. ;)

Yes, but:
- the IMAP implementation is minimal at best
- they don't implement any List-* capability *except* for categorization --
no reply-to-list or help or subscribe/unsubscribe

I installed it, was underwowed by the second issue above, and removed it
after five minutes because of the first.

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RE: [PHP] Add Reply-To to this list(s)

2003-11-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 One problem is that people, like you did now, forget to 
 delete the non list
 address. That makes me get two mail with the exact same 
 content - one from
 the list and another directly to me. That is very irritating.

To you, irritating.

To me, preferable -- one copy, the list one, goes into my list folder to be
filed away, and the other stays in my inbox so I see discussions I'm
participating in without having to read all of the traffic.

A decent list manager would be configurable to let you say whether or not
you should be sent a list copy if you're already in the headers for a
personal copy -- putting the burden where it belongs, on the software, and
the choice where it belongs, with you (one way) and me (the other).

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RE: [PHP] or return problem

2003-10-07 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 How can you possibly test, in a conditional, the return value of the
 return statement itself when it has no value to return and even causes
 the current scope to exit IMMEDIATELY??

Per the logic, if it returns immediately, isn't the value irrelevant?  That
is, assuming that the truth of the first clause short-circuits evaluation of
the second one.

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RE: [PHP] or return problem

2003-10-07 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 I would say the real issue at hand here is that the return 
 statement is
 not a fucntion, but rather a language construct, thus it 
 cannot be used
 as a function unless explicitly stated as so. The reason a parse error
 is occurring is because this particular construct has no support for
 being used in the given context. It would be like dropping in 
 any other
 language construct suddenly such as a { or @ where it is not 
 understood.
 Given that die() and exit() works just means they have been given
 support for this context.

Sounds to me that if it looks like a function, quacks like a function, etc.,
only a broken language definition would treat it differently from a
function...

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RE: [PHP] or return problem

2003-10-07 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Generally it doesn't look like a function since you can do:
 
 return 'foo'
 
 which has no parenthesis.

True enough.

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RE: [PHP] Making a Session Longer

2003-09-30 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
  RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM (0.6 points)  RBL: Received via a 
 relay in relays.osirusoft.com
 [RBL check: found 
 4.131.92.216.relays.osirusoft.com.]
  X_OSIRU_OPEN_RELAY (2.9 points)  RBL: DNSBL: sender is 
 Confirmed Open Relay
 
 You might want to check your email server. Its listed as an 
 open relay 
 and your messages are getting logged as spam :(

You might want to fix your Spamassassin configuration to reflect that fact
that relays.osirusoft.com has been taken out of action and is no longer
valid, and that to encourage people to make the fix, the failure mode is
that every IP address returns a positive.

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RE: [PHP] captcha WAS Please visit my php program

2003-09-29 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Exactly what is the purpose of this? Let me clarify. I know that it's
 supposed to prevent computers from submitting forms automatically
 because they cannot read the graphic, but what I don't 
 understand is in
 what cases this is useful?

Not being able to auto-subscribe to mailing lists in order to spam, for one.

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RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 you can create so-called assistants...
 
 You can create a loop that asks in a table how many rows and 
 columns do you
 want in that table.
 
 Then you can have it create the table with all your favorite 
 default table
 settings, but while it is generating it, you could have it 
 prompt you for
 any additional settings that you would like to have in the new table.

That doesn't explain what internal scripting is.

Do you mean that edit sessions are scriptable, using its own script
interpreter?

Or do you mean something else entirely?

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RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 I guess you could call them helper scripts libraries.
 
 Example would be: You can program a script to create a switch 
 statement and
 then have it prompt you for the number of case statements to 
 add in and if
 you want them to break; or not.
 
 Things like that.  Short cuts if you will..

Well, if those scripts are taking input and telling the editor what to do,
they're exactly what I said: a scripting language within the editor.

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RE: [PHP] fopen() || Execute read file as php page; not plain text

2003-09-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Because I need to write $include_path content to file; not 
 display it in the
 browser...

Then you're not INCLUDEing it inline to the source, are you?

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RE: [PHP] PHP|Con insane pricing

2003-09-15 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Yea its not bad if you dont have a life outside of programming and/or
 computers
 
 if you have kids or other responsibilities then all of a 
 sudden 500$ becomes
 a very large issue as thats a months groceries or what not...
 
 heh yea the average salary is 50K but then when the 
 government takes 40% (if
 your canadian) that is not a whole lot

I'm sure that, like most conferences and trainings, the assumption is that
people will attend who are either employed in the subject area -- in which
case they need to get their employers to ante up -- or are independent
contractors in the subject area -- in which case they need to treat it as a
legitimate business expense for tax purposes.  It's not a friends of PHP
sci-fi con...

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RE: [PHP] Correct Coding

2003-08-14 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Could you explain a little better why this would make things better?
 
 I don't understand how this would improve things.


  Concerning the $Task == Add, I'd like to make a comment.  It can
  be a wise decision to compare your variables with strings like:
 
  if (Add == $Task)
 
  This can help preventing typo's  like:
 
  if ($Task = Add)

$Task = Add (typo'd for $Task == Add) would assign the value,
clearly not your intent.

Add = $Task would be an illegal assignment to a constant, so your
error would be detected.



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RE: [PHP] Server-side script identified as IE

2003-08-14 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 umm. yes. I know that. the problem is the 1 site I want to pull news
from
 has a robots.txt file which is preventing the script from working and
I
 wanna get past that.

Umm, yes, they put that there because they don't want you to, didn't
they?


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RE: [PHP] help with email problem

2003-08-14 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 From: Mike Morton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 How does the legislation prevent that?  As long as people publish
their
 email addresses - they are public domain and will be treated as such -
do
 you want to stop mass snail mailings mailings as well?  As long as
people
 publish their information it is going to be used/abused - that is the
 nature
 of these people.  

How does it prevent non-US companies from harvesting lists of addresses
from websites, WHOIS directories, etc.?  It doesn't.

How does it prevent US companies from doing so?  It doesn't, but it does
place the burden of proof on them that the addresses were come by as a
result of direct correspondence with the recipient.

How does it affect foreign remailers for US clients?  It, plus the other
clauses of the bill, make it possible to go after the US business that
is the beneficiary of the spam or harvesting.

 I personally am against spam - but my address is in the
 public domain - there is nothing that says they cannot take it - and
just
 because the US makes a law against it does not make it wrong in the
rest
 of
 the world.  That is something that the US has seemed to forgotten in
the
 last few years.  But this is getting too WAY far off topic now -
enough
 from
 me ;)

Much of the rest of the world is actually stricter on these points
than the US.  The EU, for instance, is about to require opt-in
marketing, while the US has only been making noises about opt-out.


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RE: [PHP] help with email problem

2003-08-14 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
 Be real - the legislation is a waste of time and money and will never
be
 enforced or enforcable.  Too many 'anonymous' countries willing to
take
 money for server hosting in the world.

Yes, but they're taking money *from* American companies, for the most
part.  You don't have to punish the remailers if you prevent them from
having anything to remail.


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RE: [PHP] help with email problem

2003-08-14 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

 and how will this be enforced.  waste of legislation imo.

The same way any law is: by filing criminal charges after the fact.


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RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-24 Thread Roger B.A Klorese
 From: Chris Shiflett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:22 PM
 
 I thought that's what the Web server was supposed to do.

Well, that flies in the face of the filter-pipeline model, doesn't it?  One
program, one job.

The web server should do the right thing in the face of a malformed request.

The idea that something blocks malformed requests from reaching the web
server isn't a bad one at all.  It ought to be an unnecessary one, but
that's different.


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RE: [PHP] PHP should know my data!

2003-07-24 Thread Roger B.A Klorese
 From: Chris W. Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:07 PM
 To: John Manko; PHP General
 Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP should know my data!
 
 
 Color me ignorant...

Isn't ignorant the color they dropped from the rainbow?  Red, Orange,
Yellow, Green, Blue, ignorant, violent?


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RE: [PHP] Changing numbers

2003-07-21 Thread Roger B.A Klorese
 From: justin gruenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Changing numbers
 
 
 Curt Zirzow wrote:
 
 * Thus wrote zavaboy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 
 I have the following numbers:
 
 12.400
 666.75
 23
 369.2
 3.234
 
 How can I make them have at least 2 decimal places?
 So, they will output:
 
 12.40
 666.75
 23.00
 269.20
 3.234
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
 What I dont understand is that your examples are not consitant.  You 
 want 2 or more decimal positions, so as if there are more than 2, to 
 leave what exists.  But your first example, you truncate the 
 last 0.  Is 
 that a typo, or intentional?

What's so hard about this?

He wants two or more *significant* positions preserved.  Show to at least
two decimal places, trailing zeroes truncated beyond the 2nd decimal place.


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RE: [PHP] Changing numbers

2003-07-21 Thread Roger B.A Klorese
 From: Brad Pauly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:45 PM
 To: Roger B.A Klorese
 Cc: 'justin gruenberg'; 'Curt Zirzow'; 'PHP-General'
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Changing numbers
 
 
 I am not sure what he is after, but I don't think it has to do with 
 significant figures (if that is what you meant). If that was 
 the case, 
 12.400 should remain 12.400. Trailing zeros to the right of a decimal 
 are significant.

Perhaps.  But he's saying that, for his purposes, they're not -- if anything
to the right of the last shown zero existed, it would be reflected in the
output.


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[PHP] Segfault on 4.1.2 on RH 7.2

2003-07-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Yes, yes, I know it's ancient -- but it's also what's out there for 
RPMs, and if I need to go to source I will, but for now...

One single installation of gallery on our site -- a HUGE one -- 
consistently kills PHP.

Here's a trace -- any useful info here?

#0  chunk_realloc (ar_ptr=0x40349300, oldp=0x8343c78, oldsize=137641080, 
nb=344) at malloc.c:3563
#1  0x402959e2 in __libc_realloc (oldmem=0x8343c80, bytes=340) at 
malloc.c:3390
#2  0x08123a1b in _erealloc ()
#3  0x0810d232 in url_adapt_ext_ex ()
#4  0x080c6130 in session_adapt_uris ()
#5  0x08074dee in php_ub_body_write_no_header ()
#6  0x080744a2 in php_body_write ()
#7  0x0806cd78 in php_printf ()
#8  0x0806d00f in php_error_cb ()
#9  0x081333ac in zend_error ()
#10 0x08123b51 in _erealloc ()
#11 0x0810d232 in url_adapt_ext_ex ()
#12 0x080c6130 in session_adapt_uris ()
#13 0x08074dee in php_ub_body_write_no_header ()
#14 0x080744a2 in php_body_write ()
#15 0x0806cd78 in php_printf ()
#16 0x0806d00f in php_error_cb ()
#17 0x081333ac in zend_error ()
#18 0x08123b51 in _erealloc ()
#19 0x0810d232 in url_adapt_ext_ex ()
#20 0x080c6130 in session_adapt_uris ()
#21 0x08074dee in php_ub_body_write_no_header ()
#22 0x080744a2 in php_body_write ()
#23 0x0806cd78 in php_printf ()
#24 0x0806d00f in php_error_cb ()
#25 0x081333ac in zend_error ()
#26 0x0812378e in _emalloc ()
#27 0x08137c9b in zend_hash_index_update_or_next_insert ()
#28 0x08109d6d in php_var_unserialize ()
#29 0x0810a46c in php_var_unserialize ()
#30 0x0810a46c in php_var_unserialize ()
#31 0x0810a46c in php_var_unserialize ()
#32 0x0810a46c in php_var_unserialize ()
#33 0x0810a741 in zif_unserialize ()
#34 0x0815ab3a in execute ()
#35 0x0815ad33 in execute ()
#36 0x0815ad33 in execute ()
#37 0x0815ad33 in execute ()
#38 0x0815fe67 in execute ()
#39 0x08133798 in zend_execute_scripts ()
#40 0x0806ebf6 in php_execute_script ()
#41 0x0806c53c in main ()
#42 0x40230657 in __libc_start_main (main=0x806ba50 main, argc=2, 
ubp_av=0xbfffeca4,
   init=0x80689d4 _init, fini=0x81653e0 _fini, rtld_fini=0x4000dcd4 
_dl_fini,
   stack_end=0xbfffec9c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129

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Re: [PHP] Segfault on 4.1.2 on RH 7.2

2003-07-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Curt Zirzow wrote:

Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Yes, yes, I know it's ancient -- but it's also what's out there for 
RPMs, and if I need to go to source I will, but for now...
   

hmm.. yeah you might want to upgrade to a newer version. 
 

Well, yes.  But I'm afraid of the upgrade cascade -- it's not an easy 
thing to shift from RPMs to trying to keep lots of source in sync.

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