Re: [PHP] Really basic PHP questions -- newbie here!

2009-05-20 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:45:07AM -0500, Ellen Heitman wrote:

 Hello! I would really appreciate some answers to a few basic questions. I
 have done some research online, but it would greatly help me to get direct
 answers.
 1. If my site needs to be available to many browsers, including those that
 may not be entirely up-to-date, is PHP a safe option? I mean, I know that
 Flash is something people have to have enabled on their browsers, but I
 thought I read that PHP is available to all recent browsers as long as the
 server the site is hosted on supports PHP. Is this true?

PHP is *server-side* technology, so the browser doesn't matter. The web
server interprets the PHP and sends the result to the browser. That's
why, when you do Show Page Source or Display Page Source on a PHP
page, you won't see any PHP code, even if it's there.

 
 2. How can I preview my PHP while I'm coding? I'm using TextWrangler. I have
 already followed the installation tutorial here:
 http://foundationphp.com/tutorials/php_leopard.php. The test PHP file does
 work in my Safari browser. However, when I try to preview my .php files
 created in TextWrangler with Safari it doesn't work.

TextWrangler is a text *editor*, not a PHP *executor*. The tutorial you
mentioned just sets up your computer so that the Apache web server on it
recognizes PHP code, so as to interpret it.

If you're creating PHP files with TextWrangler, and they're not
displaying properly in Safari, there are a variety of reasons. Are you
putting the files in the right place, according to the tutorial? Are the
permissions on the file correct? Are you putting anything in the files
which would actually echo to the screen? When you say it doesn't work,
what exactly do you mean?


 
 3. I need something that functions as an iframe. I've been reading that
 include() serves this purpose. However, I've found that I have the make the
 content in the iframe the main content and call the things around it. I
 want to do the reverse. I want the other content on the main html page in
 place, and just want to call the text in the frame box. Is this doable?

Frames are a creature of HTML, not PHP. So setting this up is as easy as
configuring your HTML page properly. PHP is generally interspersed with
HTML to do the things that PHP can do and HTML can't.

Your questions indicate you don't understand how PHP works, and the way
PHP integrates with HTML. If you don't have a background in programming
in general, you've got quite a bit of work in front of you. I'd suggest
perusing the shelves of the best bookstore in your area for a PHP book
suitable for your level of understanding.

Paul

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Re: [PHP] Really basic PHP questions -- newbie here!

2009-05-20 Thread Lists

Ellen Heitman wrote:

Hello! I would really appreciate some answers to a few basic questions. I
have done some research online, but it would greatly help me to get direct
answers.
1. If my site needs to be available to many browsers, including those that
may not be entirely up-to-date, is PHP a safe option? I mean, I know that
Flash is something people have to have enabled on their browsers, but I
thought I read that PHP is available to all recent browsers as long as the
server the site is hosted on supports PHP. Is this true?

2. How can I preview my PHP while I'm coding? I'm using TextWrangler. I have
already followed the installation tutorial here:
http://foundationphp.com/tutorials/php_leopard.php. The test PHP file does
work in my Safari browser. However, when I try to preview my .php files
created in TextWrangler with Safari it doesn't work.

3. I need something that functions as an iframe. I've been reading that
include() serves this purpose. However, I've found that I have the make the
content in the iframe the main content and call the things around it. I
want to do the reverse. I want the other content on the main html page in
place, and just want to call the text in the frame box. Is this doable?

Any suggestions?

Thanks!



Oh my. :-)

Ellen, respectfully, maybe it is best if you take a class of
some sort?  I think that would give you a great start on
how client-side vs. server-side, and Web Development in general
works. Do have that kind of resource in your area?

Donovan



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[PHP] Really basic PHP questions -- newbie here!

2009-05-20 Thread Ellen Heitman
Hello! I would really appreciate some answers to a few basic questions. I
have done some research online, but it would greatly help me to get direct
answers.
1. If my site needs to be available to many browsers, including those that
may not be entirely up-to-date, is PHP a safe option? I mean, I know that
Flash is something people have to have enabled on their browsers, but I
thought I read that PHP is available to all recent browsers as long as the
server the site is hosted on supports PHP. Is this true?

2. How can I preview my PHP while I'm coding? I'm using TextWrangler. I have
already followed the installation tutorial here:
http://foundationphp.com/tutorials/php_leopard.php. The test PHP file does
work in my Safari browser. However, when I try to preview my .php files
created in TextWrangler with Safari it doesn't work.

3. I need something that functions as an iframe. I've been reading that
include() serves this purpose. However, I've found that I have the make the
content in the iframe the main content and call the things around it. I
want to do the reverse. I want the other content on the main html page in
place, and just want to call the text in the frame box. Is this doable?

Any suggestions?

Thanks!


Re: [PHP] Really basic PHP questions -- newbie here!

2009-05-20 Thread Raymond Irving
Hello Ellen,

I can see that you're new to PHP. You might want to check out this link to get 
some more information on how PHP works and what you need to get started:

http://www.php.net/getting-started
See also http://www.dailybits.com/getting-started-with-php-part-1-hello-world/

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Create Rich Ajax/PHP Web Apps Today!
Raxan PDI - http://raxanpdi.com/



--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Ellen Heitman ellen.heit...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Ellen Heitman ellen.heit...@gmail.com
Subject: [PHP] Really basic PHP questions -- newbie here!
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:45 AM

Hello! I would really appreciate some answers to a few basic questions. I
have done some research online, but it would greatly help me to get direct
answers.
1. If my site needs to be available to many browsers, including those that
may not be entirely up-to-date, is PHP a safe option? I mean, I know that
Flash is something people have to have enabled on their browsers, but I
thought I read that PHP is available to all recent browsers as long as the
server the site is hosted on supports PHP. Is this true?

2. How can I preview my PHP while I'm coding? I'm using TextWrangler. I have
already followed the installation tutorial here:
http://foundationphp.com/tutorials/php_leopard.php. The test PHP file does
work in my Safari browser. However, when I try to preview my .php files
created in TextWrangler with Safari it doesn't work.

3. I need something that functions as an iframe. I've been reading that
include() serves this purpose. However, I've found that I have the make the
content in the iframe the main content and call the things around it. I
want to do the reverse. I want the other content on the main html page in
place, and just want to call the text in the frame box. Is this doable?

Any suggestions?

Thanks!


Re: [PHP] Really basic PHP questions -- newbie here!

2009-05-20 Thread Lenin
If not following some classes. I'd suggest Ellen to watch the videos for a
quick overview from NETTUTS and KillerPHP.

www.killerphp.com also google for some vidoes.

And you need to understand the facts of  ServerSide, ClientSide, HTML,
WebServer, Permission of Files etc.