Re: [PHP] FW: Large sites using PHP

2001-08-18 Thread pierre-yves

Dear PHP fans,

Knowing large sites that use php is one thing (it shows the language can
support
heavy loads). But what I would really like to know is the time difference to
design,
code and implement web application in PHP versus java solution, or
ColdFusion,
or another language.

I switch to PHP because I love the language but mainly because I could
develop
application about 30% faster than ASP. (the language I used before)

The staff I hire can learn PHP and be very productive within a few days,
soory but I
can't say the same for other language...

py



- Original Message -
From: Maxim Maletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PHP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:45 AM
Subject: [PHP] FW: Large sites using PHP



 Dear PHP gurus:

 I've been following here the ever-growing-never-to-be-stopped discussions
 related to the largest sites using PHP. Apparently, most of the PHP
 developers are trying to convince their bosses to use Open Source language
 PHP instead of other 'silly' commercial solutions those 'brains' have in
 mind.

 It is just happened to me to be asked the same thing on a meeting with one
 of our clients. Therefore I have composed a dirty list of sites you all
were
 posting during the time. I've done no research on this at all. My work
 consisted only in organizing your comments into one single resource.

 The forwarded email below is what I came up with.

 Please, who cares, update this list and perhaps even make it available to
 public online. Could be a good idea to have such resource running
somewhere.
 I will definitely create a section for it on PHPBeginner.com and another
 portal I am planning to open soon. All of you are welcome to contribute
 and/or to reproduce it on your own sites.

 Thanks all,
 hope it's helpful.


 Regards,
 Maxim Maletsky

 www.PHPBeginner.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 2:30 PM
 To: Terrie *
 Subject: Large sites using PHP



 Terrie,
 On the meeting we had last Thursday you asked me about the large sites
that
 use PHP. I have composed a small list of such sites.

 Here it goes:



 www.sourceforge.net (30 millions pv/month)

 www.audiogalaxy.com (Napster follow-up,
 dozens of millions per/month)

 http://livebid.amazon.com (a part of Amazon.com,
 bet has a good traffic)

 http://mp3.lycos.com (One of the largest MP3 search
 engines in the world by Lycos.
 Their traffic but must be
 measured in several dozens of
 millions pv/mon)

 http://xoom.com (a huge online multi-service site.
 the #1 competitor to GeoCities)

 www.capitalone.com (well known credit card company)

 www.ecrush.com (14 million hits a month on avg)

 www.bangable.com (4 million page views a month.
 All PHP/mySQL)

 www.amdmb.com (uses MySQL and PHP for
 everything. 5 million pages/mon)

 www.insight.com (is a publicly traded
 fortune 1000 company.
 The site is 90% PHP)

 www.ig.com.br (the 3rd largest Brazilian portal)

 www.goeureka.com.au/super.php (AltaVista in Australia)

 www.kinderstart.com (Major children's portal.
 PHP and mySQL and some Perl.)

 www.marketplayer.com (provides the real-time stock
 market simulations for sites like
 etrade.com and smartmoney.com
 that have these games)

 www.dc.com (Deloitte Consulting)

 www.dialpad.com (user registration and member
 backend is PHP driven)

 www.thewb.com (uses PHP for the interactive
 areas such as message boards,
 polls, etc.)


 also:

 www.nbci.com
 www.sprint.ca
 www.ElectronicArts.com
 www.f2s.com
 www.indy500.com
 www.planetsourceocde.com
 www.easydns.com
 www.admworld.com
 www.communityconnect.com
 www.viant.com
 www.chek.com


 Some say that also HP, IBM, and even Mr. Microsoft run some Apache/PHP
 servers (looking it up on Netcraft.com--use their OS vendors search)

 Here is the link to a related discussion on PHP developers mailing list
 archive:
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=99616558100011w=4r=1

 **
 All this data was composed from the posts of respectable developers on the
 international PHP mailing list.
 **


 Sincerely,

  Maxim Maletsky
  Founder, Chief Developer

  PHPBeginner.com (Where PHP Begins)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.phpbeginner.com




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RE: [PHP] FW: Large sites using PHP

2001-08-18 Thread Quentin Gillet

I come from asp world, too, but I wouldn't say php is quicker to develop.
Sometimes it can take longer.

But it's really worth it.

-Message d'origine-
De : pierre-yves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : samedi 18 août 2001 14:45
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Objet : Re: [PHP] FW: Large sites using PHP


Dear PHP fans,

Knowing large sites that use php is one thing (it shows the language can
support
heavy loads). But what I would really like to know is the time difference to
design,
code and implement web application in PHP versus java solution, or
ColdFusion,
or another language.

I switch to PHP because I love the language but mainly because I could
develop
application about 30% faster than ASP. (the language I used before)

The staff I hire can learn PHP and be very productive within a few days,
soory but I
can't say the same for other language...

py



- Original Message -
From: Maxim Maletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PHP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:45 AM
Subject: [PHP] FW: Large sites using PHP



 Dear PHP gurus:

 I've been following here the ever-growing-never-to-be-stopped discussions
 related to the largest sites using PHP. Apparently, most of the PHP
 developers are trying to convince their bosses to use Open Source language
 PHP instead of other 'silly' commercial solutions those 'brains' have in
 mind.

 It is just happened to me to be asked the same thing on a meeting with one
 of our clients. Therefore I have composed a dirty list of sites you all
were
 posting during the time. I've done no research on this at all. My work
 consisted only in organizing your comments into one single resource.

 The forwarded email below is what I came up with.

 Please, who cares, update this list and perhaps even make it available to
 public online. Could be a good idea to have such resource running
somewhere.
 I will definitely create a section for it on PHPBeginner.com and another
 portal I am planning to open soon. All of you are welcome to contribute
 and/or to reproduce it on your own sites.

 Thanks all,
 hope it's helpful.


 Regards,
 Maxim Maletsky

 www.PHPBeginner.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 2:30 PM
 To: Terrie *
 Subject: Large sites using PHP



 Terrie,
 On the meeting we had last Thursday you asked me about the large sites
that
 use PHP. I have composed a small list of such sites.

 Here it goes:



 www.sourceforge.net (30 millions pv/month)

 www.audiogalaxy.com (Napster follow-up,
 dozens of millions per/month)

 http://livebid.amazon.com (a part of Amazon.com,
 bet has a good traffic)

 http://mp3.lycos.com (One of the largest MP3 search
 engines in the world by Lycos.
 Their traffic but must be
 measured in several dozens of
 millions pv/mon)

 http://xoom.com (a huge online multi-service site.
 the #1 competitor to GeoCities)

 www.capitalone.com (well known credit card company)

 www.ecrush.com (14 million hits a month on avg)

 www.bangable.com (4 million page views a month.
 All PHP/mySQL)

 www.amdmb.com (uses MySQL and PHP for
 everything. 5 million pages/mon)

 www.insight.com (is a publicly traded
 fortune 1000 company.
 The site is 90% PHP)

 www.ig.com.br (the 3rd largest Brazilian portal)

 www.goeureka.com.au/super.php (AltaVista in Australia)

 www.kinderstart.com (Major children's portal.
 PHP and mySQL and some Perl.)

 www.marketplayer.com (provides the real-time stock
 market simulations for sites like
 etrade.com and smartmoney.com
 that have these games)

 www.dc.com (Deloitte Consulting)

 www.dialpad.com (user registration and member
 backend is PHP driven)

 www.thewb.com (uses PHP for the interactive
 areas such as message boards,
 polls, etc.)


 also:

 www.nbci.com
 www.sprint.ca
 www.ElectronicArts.com
 www.f2s.com
 www.indy500.com
 www.planetsourceocde.com
 www.easydns.com
 www.admworld.com
 www.communityconnect.com
 www.viant.com
 www.chek.com


 Some say that also HP, IBM, and even Mr. Microsoft run some Apache/PHP
 servers (looking it up on Netcraft.com--use their OS vendors search)

 Here is the link to a related discussion on PHP developers mailing list
 archive:
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=99616558100011w=4r=1

 **
 All this data was composed from the posts of respectable developers on the
 international PHP mailing list.
 **


 Sincerely,

  Maxim Maletsky
  Founder, Chief Developer

  PHPBeginner.com (Where PHP Begins)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.phpbeginner.com




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