On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
I continued the discussion with Nathan.
I too have had an off-list discussion with Nathan on this topic, and a
productive one at that.
which would
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 12:38 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
I continued the discussion with Nathan.
I too have had an off-list discussion with Nathan on
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Subject: Re: [PHP] templating engine options
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org wrote:
thanks for taking the trouble to write your requirements. it made
interesting reading.
i've questions
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 03:48:41 am Nathan Rixham wrote:
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Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
I continued the discussion with Nathan.
I too have had an off-list
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
Finally somebody mentioned XSL Transformations. Time is relative because as you
need time to learn an API to produce quickly only after a while, thanks to
knowledge and confidence, XSL is the same with the advantage that you transform
a data structure, rather than
At 12:46 PM -0400 5/25/09, Robert Cummings wrote:
I'm going to leave this discussion here since it's eating up too much of
my time :)
Cheers,
Rob.
Rob:
It's always been my experience to listen when you talk. -- so -- when
you find some time AND have the inclination, could you prepare a
At 8:13 PM +0100 5/25/09, Stuart wrote:
I too have had an off-list discussion with Nathan on this topic, and a
productive one at that.
-Stuart
Great! Now you guys are having a three-some without me. :-)
While I wasn't getting it, I was trying.
Cheers,
tedd
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On 5/25/09 8:48 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Sancar Saran wrote:
?php
$content = 'No Comments';
if(isset($comments) and is_array($comments) and count($comments) 0 ) {
$content = '';
foreach( $comments as $index = $comment ) : $content. = a href='.
thanks for taking the trouble to write your requirements. it made
interesting reading.
i've questions on three points below...
On 5/25/09 6:44 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
XSL Templates are near perfect, built for the job, and very powerful -
but time hasn't favoured them well;
Tom Worster wrote:
thanks for taking the trouble to write your requirements. it made
interesting reading.
and thanks for taking the time to read it! it was a big one.
i've questions on three points below...
On 5/25/09 6:44 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
XSL Templates are near
Tom Worster wrote:
On 5/25/09 8:48 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Sancar Saran wrote:
?php
$content = 'No Comments';
if(isset($comments) and is_array($comments) and count($comments) 0 ) {
$content = '';
foreach( $comments as $index = $comment ) : $content. = a href='.
thanks for the pointers on xsl. i'll take a look.
On 5/26/09 6:05 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
it seems you're saying that there would be some kind of an intermediate
level of data representation that a script can be invoked to produce from
which different templates can produce
Hi,
and then you have the joy of telling the client its 6 months work
6 months vs 1 day... Ka-Ching! :-)
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You're missing the point just because he threw in some old HTML
styling attributes. The main issue is the overhead of added parsing
layers to find where content goes in the HTML. Aren't we already
using a language (PHP) that parses for place holders for dynamic
content within HTML
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:26 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/24 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote:
At 12:01 AM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
I was recently researching
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 09:39 +0100, Richard Heyes wrote:
Hi,
and then you have the joy of telling the client its 6 months work
6 months vs 1 day... Ka-Ching! :-)
That's where your integrity is called into question.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Sometimes I'm the windshield and sometimes I'm the bug
Ha ha! Love that!
That's where your integrity is called into question.
What's that...? :-)
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HTML5 graphing: RGraph (www.rgraph.net - updated 23rd May)
PHP mail: RMail (www.phpguru.org/rmail)
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PHP Template: RTemplate (www.phpguru.org/rtemplate)
PHP SMTP:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:46 +0100, Richard Heyes wrote:
That's where your integrity is called into question.
What's that...? :-)
One of the most important attributes a person can have. It is more
important than the person's technical ability.
:)
Cheers,
Rob
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At 11:11 PM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
often though you have dedicated web designers who do html, css java
and nothing else - and a graphics design guy and the developers (php
+ server side) - that was a pointless comment though and it is all
scenario based.
You can wear the hat
At 9:06 AM -0400 5/25/09, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:46 +0100, Richard Heyes wrote:
That's where your integrity is called into question.
What's that...? :-)
One of the most important attributes a person can have. It is more
important than the person's technical
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:26 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/24 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote:
At 12:01 AM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
On 5/23/09 6:21 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Just a quick one, can anybody recommend any decent templating engines
other than smarty.
i started using phplib template in 2002. since then i've never bothered to
revisit that choice. it may not qualify as an engine (all it does is
On 5/25/09 10:04 AM, Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote:
Quick question, how would you implement the following using your
XML-based template syntax...
div class=option ?php if (!empty($option_class)) { echo
$option_class; } ? ... /div
It's worth noting that I'm simply suggesting a different
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:26 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/24 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:26 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/24 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:31 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:26 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/24 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
Robert Cummings wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
Have I done something to annoy you lately? You seem to be directing a
lot of hostility my way recently. Just wondering.
I'm sorry you're taking it personally... you may want
Tom Worster wrote:
On 5/25/09 10:04 AM, Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote:
Quick question, how would you implement the following using your
XML-based template syntax...
div class=option ?php if (!empty($option_class)) { echo
$option_class; } ? ... /div
It's worth noting that I'm simply
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:58 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Robert Cummings wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
Have I done something to annoy you lately? You seem to be directing a
lot of hostility my way recently. Just
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:31 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:26 +0100, Stuart
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 19:56 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:31 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 19:56 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:31 +0100, Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:04 +0100, Stuart
Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
I continued the discussion with Nathan.
I too have had an off-list discussion with Nathan on this topic, and a
productive one at that.
which would probably be a good time for me to step back in; having had a
nice little inside
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 01:44:43 am Nathan Rixham wrote:
Stuart wrote:
2009/5/25 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com:
I continued the discussion with Nathan.
I too have had an off-list discussion with Nathan on this topic, and a
productive one at that.
which would probably be a good
Sancar Saran wrote:
?php
$content = 'No Comments';
if(isset($comments) and is_array($comments) and count($comments) 0 ) {
$content = '';
foreach( $comments as $index = $comment ) : $content. = a href='.
$comment-link.'.$comment-title./a; endforeach;
}
?
h2Comments/h2
div
At 12:01 AM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
I was recently researching template engines for a small in-house
project, with a bias toward simple and lightweight. I found this
interesting article in my search. I think its worth considering if
you don't need all the
i use smarty (a templating engine) for two important reasons...
1. in most of my projects, templates are designed by a third party and
i dont want them to access all my php variables.
2. smarty is meant to do html coding and in many cases i can get the
job done in single sentence, while it takes
...
For a long time I used require(), simply because I worked in an
environment where the web people could either cope with PHP or were
programmers. But then I succumbed to the lure and wrote RTemplate
(http://www.phpguru.org/rtemplate) - a simple caching template doobry.
And now I still use
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote:
At 12:01 AM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
I was recently researching template engines for a small in-house
project, with a bias toward simple and lightweight. I found this
interesting article
2009/5/23 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
Hi All,
Just a quick one, can anybody recommend any decent templating engines other
than smarty.
I've got no problem with smarty and it does the job - but if there is
something newer and lighter out there that I'm missing then I'd be a fool
not to
Stuart wrote:
2009/5/24 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote:
At 12:01 AM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
LinuxManMikeC wrote:
I was recently researching template engines for a small in-house
project,
At 9:43 PM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
and now I'm questioning myself - not on the client scenario based
decisions - but on my own personal projects and things only I work
on.. why do I use a template engine? habit? some old logical
decision I made based on abstraction which somehow
tedd wrote:
At 9:43 PM +0100 5/24/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
and now I'm questioning myself - not on the client scenario based
decisions - but on my own personal projects and things only I work
on.. why do I use a template engine? habit? some old logical decision
I made based on abstraction
At 1:54 PM -0600 5/24/09, LinuxManMikeC wrote:
You're missing the point just because he threw in some old HTML
styling attributes. The main issue is the overhead of added parsing
layers to find where content goes in the HTML.
I may be missing the point, but I know where content goes in my
tedd wrote:
At 1:54 PM -0600 5/24/09, LinuxManMikeC wrote:
You're missing the point just because he threw in some old HTML
styling attributes. The main issue is the overhead of added parsing
layers to find where content goes in the HTML.
I may be missing the point, but I know where content
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
Just a quick one, can anybody recommend any decent templating engines other
than smarty.
I've got no problem with smarty and it does the job - but if there is
something newer and lighter out there that I'm
On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 23:21 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
Just a quick one, can anybody recommend any decent templating engines
other than smarty.
I've got no problem with smarty and it does the job - but if there is
something newer and lighter out there that I'm missing then I'd
Kevin Waterson wrote:
On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 23:21 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
Just a quick one, can anybody recommend any decent templating engines
other than smarty.
I've got no problem with smarty and it does the job - but if there is
something newer and lighter out there that
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