[PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi all, I'm very happy to announce that I've just released my comprehensive guide to installing, configuring and running Apache 2, PHP 4.4.7 and PHP 5.2.2 on Windows XP. The guide is broken down into small manageable sections and contains over 50 screen shots of the entire process, so you won't go wrong while following it. It covers everything from installing Apache, to setting up a Virtual host to switching between PHP 4 and 5. A troubleshooting section and further advice rounds-off the guide. You can read the guide here: http://wamp.corephp.co.uk Please send comments / suggestions / typos to me. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On 5/17/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm very happy to announce that I've just released my comprehensive guide to installing, configuring and running Apache 2, PHP 4.4.7 and PHP 5.2.2 on Windows XP. The guide is broken down into small manageable sections and contains over 50 screen shots of the entire process, so you won't go wrong while following it. It covers everything from installing Apache, to setting up a Virtual host to switching between PHP 4 and 5. A troubleshooting section and further advice rounds-off the guide. You can read the guide here: http://wamp.corephp.co.uk Please send comments / suggestions / typos to me. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Congratulations on a job well done, Rich. I took a glance through and checked every link (including download/page links and previous/next/index links) on the site, and it all looks good. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:26 +0100, Richard Davey wrote: Hi all, I'm very happy to announce that I've just released my comprehensive guide to installing, configuring and running Apache 2, PHP 4.4.7 and PHP 5.2.2 on Windows XP. The guide is broken down into small manageable sections and contains over 50 screen shots of the entire process, so you won't go wrong while following it. It covers everything from installing Apache, to setting up a Virtual host to switching between PHP 4 and 5. A troubleshooting section and further advice rounds-off the guide. You can read the guide here: http://wamp.corephp.co.uk Please send comments / suggestions / typos to me. Suggestion: get rid of Windows XP and use a real OS Comment: Vista doesn't count Typo: http://wamp.corephp.co.uk/help_01.php If Apache HAS worked previously in the past You have previously and the past redundancy since previous implies the past and past implies previous. :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi Robert, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 4:43:14 PM, you wrote: Suggestion: get rid of Windows XP and use a real OS There's always one ;) You have previously and the past redundancy since previous implies the past and past implies previous. Fixed :) Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[2]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On 5/17/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestion: get rid of Windows XP and use a real OS There's always one ;) No, there's more than one. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[4]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi Greg, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:01:18 PM, you wrote: There's always one ;) No, there's more than one. Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) * I just took the Zend PHP IDE research poll, and at the end it gives you the chance to view the stats of everyone else who took the poll. Interestingly, 70% of them use Windows XP for development. I actually use a combination of Vista and OS X, which puts me in the 11% and 19% categories respectively. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[4]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 17:19 +0100, Richard Davey wrote: Hi Greg, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:01:18 PM, you wrote: There's always one ;) No, there's more than one. Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) * I just took the Zend PHP IDE research poll, and at the end it gives you the chance to view the stats of everyone else who took the poll. Interestingly, 70% of them use Windows XP for development. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Richard Davey wrote: Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) * I just took the Zend PHP IDE research poll, and at the end it gives you the chance to view the stats of everyone else who took the poll. Interestingly, 70% of them use Windows XP for development. I actually use a combination of Vista and OS X, which puts me in the 11% and 19% categories respectively. I find it funny that the addition of the numbers above would logically put me in the 0% category. My $0.02...I use Linux almost 100% of the time at work, and consider myself to be a linux guy. That said, I disagree with people who discard Windows as an option. If you develop in PHP, chances are pretty good that more than 85% of the people you're developing for will use Windows to view your end result. In my book, that makes a WAMP workstation/laptop a pretty good self-contained development environment. Argumentum ad populum doesn't apply in the usage-for-development case. It's not asking If everyone else jumped off a bridge would you jump too? It's asking If everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you design your bridge with a soft fluffy landing spot? jon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[4]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On 5/17/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) I'm not asking you to care. Windoze still sucks, no matter how many idiots use it. The virus protection racket alone is enough to make me throw up. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi Jon, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:46:12 PM, you wrote: I find it funny that the addition of the numbers above would logically put me in the 0% category. You could select multiple operating systems from the list. 50% of them used Linux too. It didn't show how the results were mixed though, i.e. of the 70%+ that used XP, did 10% or 90% of them also use Linux. I thought it interesting none-the-less. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[6]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi Greg, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:49:45 PM, you wrote: Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) I'm not asking you to care. Windoze still sucks, no matter how many idiots use it. The virus protection racket alone is enough to make me throw up. Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. If you'd gone for 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management', you'd be worth taking seriously. Unless you're not asking me to take you seriously of course. Cheers, Rich * I've not had a virus -infect- a Windows box for over a decade. -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[6]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On May 17, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Richard Davey wrote: Hi Greg, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:49:45 PM, you wrote: Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) I'm not asking you to care. Windoze still sucks, no matter how many idiots use it. The virus protection racket alone is enough to make me throw up. Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. If you'd gone for 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management', you'd be worth taking seriously. Not to start a holy war... But I've never had a virus infect a Macintosh... And I've been using Mac's since the mid 80's... And Apple before that :) Now... To add something useful to this discussions, I whole heartily believe unless you are the only one that is EVER going to use your killer application... It should work and look good on any piece of crap(read: ALL OF THEM) operating system... Because if we get down to it... Every single person on this list could think of 50 things they want to change on their current operating system. If you couldn't, How can you be considered a developer? ; ) -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 3251 132nd ave Holland, MI, 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a world without Walls Fences, one needs neither Windows, nor Gates
Re: Re[6]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On 5/17/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Greg, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:49:45 PM, you wrote: Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) I'm not asking you to care. Windoze still sucks, no matter how many idiots use it. The virus protection racket alone is enough to make me throw up. Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. If you'd gone for 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management', you'd be worth taking seriously. Unless you're not asking me to take you seriously of course. Cheers, Rich * I've not had a virus -infect- a Windows box for over a decade. -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php It seems to me as though the OS argument is almost ignorant enough to equate as, I have no desire to be a pilot, so to hell with teaching anyone else to be. PHP is meant to be as cross-platform as possible, and to have an open source project *REALLY* succeed, it needs to be accessible on a variety of platforms and distributions. One may only have access to a Windows machine at home, work, or school, and/or may not be able to modify something as key as the operating system. Additionally, perhaps they need to interface said OS with Microsoft-proprietary software or something only available on a Win32 machine. To discount a tutorial on how to do this is ludicrous I guarantee that not one of us here has gotten to where we are now --- let alone where we'll be in the future --- without the help of an online walk-through or two, even if someone, somewhere, considered it to be less than worthwhile. I am a Linux user myself - at work, at home, and even in my vehicles. While I prefer the Linux operating system as a whole over any other, it is just that --- I *prefer* it. Sure, I push for others to at least give it a try, but I'm not going to classify someone as an idiot because they choose not to get off of the Windows platform. I just fail to see how such closed-mindedness is in any way beneficial to the evolution and advancement of the open source community, and moreover, technological advancements as a whole. So with my two cents in there as well, we've almost got enough for a can of soda to get the bad taste of this conversation out of our mouths. I vote for ginger ale, so that it will calm Greg's stomach after the virus protection racket ad nauseum the poor guy experiences. We don't need any vomit on our nice, clean list. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Richard Davey wrote: Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. If you'd gone for 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management', you'd be worth taking seriously. How about installation time. Just clocked up 6.5 Hours re-installing XP on a machine. To get the last linux machine to the same level - 20 mins. Of cause running Eclipse - it does not matter what the OS is :( * I've not had a virus -infect- a Windows box for over a decade. Same here - except for the site that insisted on using IE - they are back on SeaMonkey now :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk MEDW - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Firebird Foundation Inc. - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[6]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On Friday 18 May 2007 01:00, Richard Davey wrote: Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. If you'd gone for 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management', you'd be worth taking seriously. In a roundabout way, having to run a virus scanner is not a very 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management'. Or maybe Greg wanted to point out that Windows *is* the virus? -- Crayon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 12:46 -0400, Jon Anderson wrote: Richard Davey wrote: Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) * I just took the Zend PHP IDE research poll, and at the end it gives you the chance to view the stats of everyone else who took the poll. Interestingly, 70% of them use Windows XP for development. I actually use a combination of Vista and OS X, which puts me in the 11% and 19% categories respectively. I find it funny that the addition of the numbers above would logically put me in the 0% category. My $0.02...I use Linux almost 100% of the time at work, and consider myself to be a linux guy. That said, I disagree with people who discard Windows as an option. If you develop in PHP, chances are pretty good that more than 85% of the people you're developing for will use Windows to view your end result. In my book, that makes a WAMP workstation/laptop a pretty good self-contained development environment. Argumentum ad populum doesn't apply in the usage-for-development case. It's not asking If everyone else jumped off a bridge would you jump too? It's asking If everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you design your bridge with a soft fluffy landing spot? The Argumentum ad populum reference I made is quite applicable. Otherwise, if not to lean on argumentum ad populum, why would he make a reference to 70% of the poll using Windows XP? Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[6]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 13:13 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: On May 17, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Richard Davey wrote: Hi Greg, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:49:45 PM, you wrote: Sure, but you're in the minority*, so what do I care? :) I'm not asking you to care. Windoze still sucks, no matter how many idiots use it. The virus protection racket alone is enough to make me throw up. Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. If you'd gone for 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management', you'd be worth taking seriously. Not to start a holy war... But I've never had a virus infect a Macintosh... And I've been using Mac's since the mid 80's... And Apple before that :) Now... To add something useful to this discussions, I whole heartily believe unless you are the only one that is EVER going to use your killer application... It should work and look good on any piece of crap(read: ALL OF THEM) operating system... Because if we get down to it... Every single person on this list could think of 50 things they want to change on their current operating system. If you couldn't, How can you be considered a developer? ; ) I had 500 things I wanted to change, then I switched from Windows to Linux in 2000 and found that they had been addressed. Sure enough though, I'm working on a new list. There's only a few things on it though ;) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[6]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 01:44 +0800, Crayon Shin Chan wrote: On Friday 18 May 2007 01:00, Richard Davey wrote: Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. If you'd gone for 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management', you'd be worth taking seriously. In a roundabout way, having to run a virus scanner is not a very 'competent use of the CPU', or 'effective memory management'. Or maybe Greg wanted to point out that Windows *is* the virus? Nah, Windows is certainly not the virus. It's more akin to a gaping unclean wound upon which the viruses feast. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[6]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On 5/17/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. 1. The virus and malware protection racket - M$ spent billions of dollars and several years making Vista and just like normal it's fully exploitable and insecure. Vista currently has 22 critical exploits listed at securityfocus.com and it's only been out how long? If 22 security researchers are willing to publicly give up their findings do you have any clue how many are keeping their findings secret to sell to the highest bidder? Do have any clue how much a working windoze exploit goes for nowadays? You think all those botnets just happened by accident? All together now, everyone thank M$ for your daily spam. 2. Perpetual Upgrading - you can use Ubuntu Linux 6.06 Server Edition until 2011, fully supported. How long til you're forced to upgrade to Vista? How long before your WinXP install is no longer supported? I would further argue that upgrading a Ubuntu Linux OS is painless. When 2011 comes around, I can do `apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade` to move on. No trips to CompUSA to shell out hundreds of dollars, no upgrading my hardware, none of that. Gentoo Linux is very simple to upgrade too. I relinked my make.profile to the 2007.0 version and `emerge -uDN` away I go. I have a Gentoo box that I've upgraded that way for 4 years now. I have a FreeBSD box that I brought all the way from 4.0 to 6.2 by doing `make buildworld` once a year or so. Microsoft hasn't a clue how to make a simple forward upgrade path for their lusers. But that's how Intel likes it. 3. Bloat - 1.5+ hours to install Vista then finally you get to start installing 'apps'. At that point you find out Vista doesn't support your two year old 3com ethernet card. 3com! Fucking 3com is not supported? Jesus Christ. With Linux you install for 20-30 minutes and immediately have 99% of your apps ready to go. The hardest thing to decide is what color I want to make my bash prompt this year. 4. Hostile treatment of customers - M$ is currently choosing to not sue 'opensource' for 235 patent violations. They still want money however, and without showing anyone which patents are being violated. RedHat Linux has stated they will gladly indemnify their users without anyone paying any M$ tax. I hate RPMS as much as the next guy but a bad day fighting RPMS dependencies is still better than a good day fighting M$ viruses (or virii depending on how far north your grade school was located). I always correct people when I hear them say 'computer virus'. I explain how it's a 'Microsoft virus' because in all likelyhood it only affects the idiots running a windoze OS. 5. Predatory Practices - How many companies have been eaten alive by M$ over the years? More than I can count or care to list. Innovation my ass. This guy got tired of listing them and gave up several years ago it seems: http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/catalog/yrcatalog.shtml 6. .NET - proof M$ really wants to be a bank instead of a software vendor. Subscription based software? Give me a break. 7. IE7 - My transparent pngs are almost working, almost. Guess they are trying not to do too much at one time. You can read more on the web: http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+sucks+because 1.62M results, but you probably already knew that being in the M$ loving majority and all. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi Lester, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 6:24:44 PM, you wrote: How about installation time. Just clocked up 6.5 Hours re-installing XP on a machine. To get the last linux machine to the same level - 20 mins. Of cause running Eclipse - it does not matter what the OS is :( Yeah I'd take installation time as a valid reason why XP sucks sometimes :) I was very pleased to see that Vista installed in next to no time at all, but let's not go there... one day someone will invent an OS as powerful as my old Amiga used to have! Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[8]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi Robert, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 7:01:00 PM, you wrote: I had 500 things I wanted to change, then I switched from Windows to Linux in 2000 and found that they had been addressed. Sure enough though, I'm working on a new list. There's only a few things on it though ;) I envy those who's work is specific / targeted enough for them to be able to only use Linux on their desktop, I really do (and I say that without a hint of sarcasm, I promise). For the rest of us, the choice sadly isn't as black and white. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[8]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On 5/17/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I envy those who's work is specific / targeted enough for them to be able to only use Linux on their desktop, I really do (and I say that without a hint of sarcasm, I promise). For the rest of us, the choice sadly isn't as black and white. It's simple. In the job interview you ask, Will I be able to use Linux (or Mac OS) as my primary desktop OS? When they say no, you get up and leave. I've done it twice in the past year or so. I could only image the stupidity I would have found once inside the door if they exhibited that level of clueless-ness in the interview. One company actually told me they were afraid I would be pirating software unless I used a windoze OS that could be 'audited' by their sysadmins. I blinked a couple of times, got up, and walked out. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[8]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Hi Greg, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 7:23:47 PM, you wrote: Viruses? God, that old bullshit ladened chestnut*. At least come up with some kind of valid OS argument, please. 1. The virus and malware protection racket - M$ spent billions of 2. Perpetual Upgrading - you can use Ubuntu Linux 6.06 Server Edition 3. Bloat - 1.5+ hours to install Vista then finally you get to start 4. Hostile treatment of customers - M$ is currently choosing to not 5. Predatory Practices - How many companies have been eaten alive by 6. .NET - proof M$ really wants to be a bank instead of a software 7. IE7 - My transparent pngs are almost working, almost. Guess they Yay, some decent arguments! I don't deny any of them, I only take exception to being called an 'idiot' by yourself for the OS I have to use. You have no idea at all what I do for a living, what apps I need to run, what software I have to develop, and I'm afraid the area in which I work (games/movie industry) is not a Linux friendly one in the slightest. You see for all the upgrading wonders and angelic like behaviour of your OS creators, it doesn't count for shit if I can't use it for work, and there - as is probably the case for the vast majority of people stuck with Windows - is where the buck stops. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[8]: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On 5/17/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yay, some decent arguments! I don't deny any of them, I only take exception to being called an 'idiot' by yourself for the OS I have to use. I apologize. I meant it in a stereotypical, M$-hating, sort of way.. nothing towards you personally. You have no idea at all what I do for a living, what apps I need to run, what software I have to develop, and I'm afraid the area in which I work (games/movie industry) is not a Linux friendly one in the slightest. You have my sympathy. Have you tried pushing medibuntu? http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ You see for all the upgrading wonders and angelic like behaviour of your OS creators They're certainly no angels, just pragmatists with no resources to waste. it doesn't count for shit if I can't use it for work,and there - as is probably the case for the vast majority of people stuck with Windows - is where the buck stops. I used to have to use windoze at this one job several years ago and it in no way forced me to also use it at home. It's all about desire and will. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Richard Davey wrote: I'm very happy to announce that I've just released my comprehensive guide to installing, configuring and running Apache 2, PHP 4.4.7 and PHP 5.2.2 on Windows XP. The guide is broken down into small manageable sections and contains over 50 screen shots of the entire process, so you won't go wrong while following it. It covers everything from installing Apache, to setting up a Virtual host to switching between PHP 4 and 5. A troubleshooting section and further advice rounds-off the guide. You can read the guide here: http://wamp.corephp.co.uk Please send comments / suggestions / typos to me. Nice work Richard. I'd just like to say that I think a few other people on this list need to take the big sticks out of their butts for a second and appreciate a quality piece of work, that Richard has published for everyone to take it or leave it. What do you guys do? You start a discussion that has nothing to do with Richard's article, and if anything it will discourage him from writing similar articles in the future. However, from his responses so far he's intelligent enough to see past it. Like it or not, and agree with it or not, there are a great many developers out there who either have to or choose to use Windows as their development platform, and a fair few who also choose to use it as a production platform. I can't believe there is anyone in these categories who doesn't know that alternatives exist, and who don't have the necessary skills to research the differences and make an informed decision. So, from me, congratulations Richard, excellent work, keep it up. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 20:18 +0100, Stut wrote: Richard Davey wrote: I'm very happy to announce that I've just released my comprehensive guide to installing, configuring and running Apache 2, PHP 4.4.7 and PHP 5.2.2 on Windows XP. The guide is broken down into small manageable sections and contains over 50 screen shots of the entire process, so you won't go wrong while following it. It covers everything from installing Apache, to setting up a Virtual host to switching between PHP 4 and 5. A troubleshooting section and further advice rounds-off the guide. You can read the guide here: http://wamp.corephp.co.uk Please send comments / suggestions / typos to me. Nice work Richard. I'd just like to say that I think a few other people on this list need to take the big sticks out of their butts for a second and appreciate a quality piece of work, that Richard has published for everyone to take it or leave it. What do you guys do? You start a discussion that has nothing to do with Richard's article, and if anything it will discourage him from writing similar articles in the future. However, from his responses so far he's intelligent enough to see past it. Like it or not, and agree with it or not, there are a great many developers out there who either have to or choose to use Windows as their development platform, and a fair few who also choose to use it as a production platform. I can't believe there is anyone in these categories who doesn't know that alternatives exist, and who don't have the necessary skills to research the differences and make an informed decision. So, from me, congratulations Richard, excellent work, keep it up. Well in all honesty, my original post was tongue in cheek, I didn't think it would go on and on from there. BTW, could someone get behind me and give that stick thing that's poking out a pull. I've been having trouble walking lately ;) Bh, come on, help a guy out. IT CHAFFES!! Cheers, Rob. Ps. I apologize in advance to anyone who accidentally got caught up in some errant mental imagery. Blame Stut!! *heheh* *cackles and runs* -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] A Guide to running Apache 2, PHP 4 PHP 5 on Windows XP
Robert Cummings wrote: BTW, could someone get behind me and give that stick thing that's poking out a pull. I've been having trouble walking lately ;) Not a chance in hell I'm going near that!! Ps. I apologize in advance to anyone who accidentally got caught up in some errant mental imagery. Blame Stut!! *heheh* *cackles and runs* Yup, blame me. Everything else seems to be my fault at the moment. Get to the back of the line! -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
