Re: [PHP] Back to Basics - Re: [PHP] Re: for the security minded web developer - secure way to login?

2009-02-16 Thread Michael A. Peters
Rene Veerman wrote: Just for this case, where authentication of the server isn't an issue, and things like deployment cost are, i'd like to propose that we on this list look again at securing login/pass through onewayHash functions, in an otherwise non-ssl environment. i hate to be a critic

Re: [PHP] Back to Basics - Re: [PHP] Re: for the security minded web developer - secure way to login?

2009-02-16 Thread German Geek
yes there are situations like that but then it could just submit the form (which would happen anyway) and check the plaintext password like normally if the other mechanism fails. If people have js turned on it would simply increase security a little. The crucial part is just the sending of the pass

Re: [PHP] Back to Basics - Re: [PHP] Re: for the security minded web developer - secure way to login?

2009-02-16 Thread Jason Pruim
On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:11 AM, German Geek wrote: Brilliant. Someone who understood my intentions :) It's not only a good exercise but also useful. Once done in PHP and various JS frameworks, we could port it to other languages. Would suggest to support as many as we can because they all hav

Re: [PHP] Back to Basics - Re: [PHP] Re: for the security minded web developer - secure way to login?

2009-02-16 Thread German Geek
Brilliant. Someone who understood my intentions :) It's not only a good exercise but also useful. Once done in PHP and various JS frameworks, we could port it to other languages. Would suggest to support as many as we can because they all have pros and cons. PHP first tho :) . Maybe just good old j

[PHP] Back to Basics - Re: [PHP] Re: for the security minded web developer - secure way to login?

2009-02-15 Thread Rene Veerman
Just for this case, where authentication of the server isn't an issue, and things like deployment cost are, i'd like to propose that we on this list look again at securing login/pass through onewayHash functions, in an otherwise non-ssl environment. i hate to be a critic of the community her