Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
Curt Zirzow wrote: * Thus wrote Chris Jernigan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi everyone, What's the problem? I have one week to do this. Oh, and did I mention that I know VERY little about PHP / mySQL. I know NOTHING about ColdFusion or MSSQL. And to top it off, the site in question contains over 300 .cfm files! Does anyone have any idea how I could pull this off? rename all files to .php and set the web server to parse .php files as coldfusion. lmao @ that one. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
Yeah, I'd say it's completely hopeless in a week. PHP is a totally different language than ColdFusion. SQL and MySQL may be different. The databases alone, as others have mentioned, could easily be a week even if you're experienced. Moving BOTH databases and scripting languages will probably mean you have to more reimplement, not just duplicate exact. Certain features may exist in your current database and not in MySQL, making it impossible to port your database as-is and requiring massively more function. If you really want this thing done and don't know what you're doing, try giving yourself 6 months. Or more. And a very long read through the PHP and MySQL documentation. And lots of posts to the php list when you can't figure things out. You could also try outsourcing your code. If ALL you want is an exact copy in PHP, I bet there are plenty off off-shore (well, off the U.S. shore) companies willing to do it for a very reasonable rate. I can't speak for their design and how easy the code will be to work with, but that would be the way to do it fast and cheap (well, relatively cheap). But it better be important, because I bet it would be massively cheaper to buy another ColdFusion license than to try and re-implement ColdFusion in PHP on this scale! Please post back here and let us know what happened with this. I'm guessing you posted feeling pretty freaked out after your boss pushed you to do this. Or perhaps you just thought that ColdFusion and PHP were very similar and there was some kind of converter or easy process, like going from GIF to PNG or something. Unfortunately, that's just not the case. If you come back and ask smaller, more specific questions, preferably somewhat pre-researched (just spend 3 minutes googling), we can help and we promise not to group-lynch you :) -Galen -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
Hi everyone, Ok, I need serious help. I have been handed a project by my boss to convert an existing site that was built using ColdFusion / SQL into a site that will use PHP / mySQL. The site relies heavily on calls to the database for everything from site content, to an admin area where you can edit that content, to a news ticker, to the actual navigation of the site. What's the problem? I have one week to do this. Oh, and did I mention that I know VERY little about PHP / mySQL. I know NOTHING about ColdFusion or MSSQL. And to top it off, the site in question contains over 300 .cfm files! Does anyone have any idea how I could pull this off? Even if I had a working knowledge of ColdFusion, MSSQL, PHP, mySQL...still one week isn't enough time to retool a site of this proportion. Especially considering that I don't understand any of the code that I'm staring at. I've been a web designer for about five years now. Notice I said designer not developer. I want to learn PHP / mySQL but in order to complete this project I also need to understand ColdFusion in order to replicate the site functionality. Any advice on what I should do? Thanks in advance for your help, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
Chris Jernigan wrote: Hi everyone, Ok, I need serious help. I have been handed a project by my boss to convert an existing site that was built using ColdFusion / SQL into a site that will use PHP / mySQL. The site relies heavily on calls to the database for everything from site content, to an admin area where you can edit that content, to a news ticker, to the actual navigation of the site. What's the problem? I have one week to do this. Oh, and did I mention that I know VERY little about PHP / mySQL. I know NOTHING about ColdFusion or MSSQL. And to top it off, the site in question contains over 300 .cfm files! Does anyone have any idea how I could pull this off? Even if I had a working knowledge of ColdFusion, MSSQL, PHP, mySQL...still one week isn't enough time to retool a site of this proportion. Especially considering that I don't understand any of the code that I'm staring at. I've been a web designer for about five years now. Notice I said designer not developer. I want to learn PHP / mySQL but in order to complete this project I also need to understand ColdFusion in order to replicate the site functionality. Any advice on what I should do? Thanks in advance for your help, Chris Tell your boss it's an unrealistic goal. Even for a seasoned PHP programmer with a firm grasp on MySQL, something of this scope is unrealistic for a single person. Scoping out the db schema alone could take a week or more (depending on the size of your db). That doesn't even take into account migrating your data from MSSQL to MySQL once your MySQL db is set up, or writing all the php code from scratch (PEAR libraries would help speed up the process, but now you bring in the OOP learning curve). -- John C. Nichel KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
[snip] Tell your boss it's an unrealistic goal. Even for a seasoned PHP programmer with a firm grasp on MySQL, something of this scope is unrealistic for a single person. Scoping out the db schema alone could take a week or more (depending on the size of your db). That doesn't even take into account migrating your data from MSSQL to MySQL once your MySQL db is set up, or writing all the php code from scratch (PEAR libraries would help speed up the process, but now you bring in the OOP learning curve). [/snip] I agree...the situation you describe is a recipe for disaster. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
I've used Cold Fusion for years. However one week at 100 hours might not be enough time to covert everything to PHP and mySQL. Hi everyone, Ok, I need serious help. I have been handed a project by my boss to convert an existing site that was built using ColdFusion / SQL into a site that will use PHP / mySQL. The site relies heavily on calls to the database for everything from site content, to an admin area where you can edit that content, to a news ticker, to the actual navigation of the site. What's the problem? I have one week to do this. Oh, and did I mention that I know VERY little about PHP / mySQL. I know NOTHING about ColdFusion or MSSQL. And to top it off, the site in question contains over 300 .cfm files! Does anyone have any idea how I could pull this off? Even if I had a working knowledge of ColdFusion, MSSQL, PHP, mySQL...still one week isn't enough time to retool a site of this proportion. Especially considering that I don't understand any of the code that I'm staring at. I've been a web designer for about five years now. Notice I said designer not developer. I want to learn PHP / mySQL but in order to complete this project I also need to understand ColdFusion in order to replicate the site functionality. Any advice on what I should do? Thanks in advance for your help, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
Here's what you do. Assume 10-hour work days. Obviously, you want to start with the schema. That's pretty darn important, so allow yourself a whole day for that. You have four days left. Oh wait -- you will probably have to work the weekend for this one. So you have six days left. That's 60 hours, or 3600 minutes. You have 300 files, so you can't spend more than 12 minutes per file. Wait, you said OVER 300, so try to keep it to 10 minutes per file. To play it safe, spend no more than 8 minutes per file -- that way, you have a little extra time in case something unexpected comes up. It might be easier to buy a CFM-to-PHP converter. You can get those at most Kmart stores. They're usually next to the bacon stretchers and smoke-shifters. Hope this helps! cheers, Travis Chris Jernigan wrote: Hi everyone, Ok, I need serious help. I have been handed a project by my boss to convert an existing site that was built using ColdFusion / SQL into a site that will use PHP / mySQL. The site relies heavily on calls to the database for everything from site content, to an admin area where you can edit that content, to a news ticker, to the actual navigation of the site. What's the problem? I have one week to do this. Oh, and did I mention that I know VERY little about PHP / mySQL. I know NOTHING about ColdFusion or MSSQL. And to top it off, the site in question contains over 300 .cfm files! Does anyone have any idea how I could pull this off? Even if I had a working knowledge of ColdFusion, MSSQL, PHP, mySQL...still one week isn't enough time to retool a site of this proportion. Especially considering that I don't understand any of the code that I'm staring at. I've been a web designer for about five years now. Notice I said designer not developer. I want to learn PHP / mySQL but in order to complete this project I also need to understand ColdFusion in order to replicate the site functionality. Any advice on what I should do? Thanks in advance for your help, Chris -- Travis Low mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dawnstar.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
* Thus wrote Chris Jernigan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi everyone, What's the problem? I have one week to do this. Oh, and did I mention that I know VERY little about PHP / mySQL. I know NOTHING about ColdFusion or MSSQL. And to top it off, the site in question contains over 300 .cfm files! Does anyone have any idea how I could pull this off? rename all files to .php and set the web server to parse .php files as coldfusion. Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
Oh my god...I'm crying... what the heck is a bacon stretcher ? t At 03:52 PM 5/28/2004, Travis Low wrote: Here's what you do. Assume 10-hour work days. Obviously, you want to start with the schema. That's pretty darn important, so allow yourself a whole day for that. You have four days left. Oh wait -- you will probably have to work the weekend for this one. So you have six days left. That's 60 hours, or 3600 minutes. You have 300 files, so you can't spend more than 12 minutes per file. Wait, you said OVER 300, so try to keep it to 10 minutes per file. To play it safe, spend no more than 8 minutes per file -- that way, you have a little extra time in case something unexpected comes up. It might be easier to buy a CFM-to-PHP converter. You can get those at most Kmart stores. They're usually next to the bacon stretchers and smoke-shifters. Hope this helps! cheers, Travis Chris Jernigan wrote: Hi everyone, Ok, I need serious help. I have been handed a project by my boss to convert an existing site that was built using ColdFusion / SQL into a site that will use PHP / mySQL. The site relies heavily on calls to the database for everything from site content, to an admin area where you can edit that content, to a news ticker, to the actual navigation of the site. What's the problem? I have one week to do this. Oh, and did I mention that I know VERY little about PHP / mySQL. I know NOTHING about ColdFusion or MSSQL. And to top it off, the site in question contains over 300 .cfm files! Does anyone have any idea how I could pull this off? Even if I had a working knowledge of ColdFusion, MSSQL, PHP, mySQL...still one week isn't enough time to retool a site of this proportion. Especially considering that I don't understand any of the code that I'm staring at. I've been a web designer for about five years now. Notice I said designer not developer. I want to learn PHP / mySQL but in order to complete this project I also need to understand ColdFusion in order to replicate the site functionality. Any advice on what I should do? Thanks in advance for your help, Chris -- Travis Low mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dawnstar.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ColdFusion / SQL PHP / mySQL HELP!
That's funny Travis ! Here's what you do. Assume 10-hour work days. Obviously, you want to start with the schema. That's pretty darn important, so allow yourself a whole day for that. You have four days left. Oh wait -- you will probably have to work the weekend for this one. So you have six days left. That's 60 hours, or 3600 minutes. You have 300 files, so you can't spend more than 12 minutes per file. Wait, you said OVER 300, so try to keep it to 10 minutes per file. To play it safe, spend no more than 8 minutes per file -- that way, you have a little extra time in case something unexpected comes up. It might be easier to buy a CFM-to-PHP converter. You can get those at most Kmart stores. They're usually next to the bacon stretchers and smoke-shifters. Hope this helps! cheers, Travis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
