Re[2]: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
Hello Chris, Tuesday, March 2, 2004, 12:31:18 AM, you wrote: CS I have heard from numerous sources that the latest patch for IE 6 CS (released a week or two ago) has a bug that causes it to have trouble CS sending a proper POST request. CS I don't have access to a Windows machine to test this myself, but it would CS be very nice if someone could help pinpoint what circumstances cause this CS behavior (surely it's not all POST requests). Capturing the raw request CS from a failed transaction would be a good first step, and you can send me CS this for interpretation if you like. I'm happy to help. I don't believe there are any consistent causes of this problem - sometimes it just happens. Refreshing the exact same form will, 9 times out of 10, cure it. However Chris - this might help in your debugging because when IE does fail, it fails by sending an http header of 0 bytes in size. It's not just the post form data that is lost, everything is. So trap that and you should, theoretically, with a little browser detection mojo be able to at least error gracefully. -- Best regards, Richard Davey http://www.phpcommunity.org/wiki/296.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
On 02 March 2004 00:04, Marc G. Fournier wrote: We're having a weird problem with some of our PHP forms, where, when a client uses IE6 with the latest hotfixes, they are reporting that have to re-submit a couple of times for it to take ... as if somehow the data isn't being passed down properly to the FORM/ACTION ... We're using sessions to pass the data around, and it seems to work with every other browser we've used, including IE6 previous to the latest hotfixes ... but, could it be something that *we* aren't doing right, or is there a known bug with sessions + IE6? Some sort of work around? Yes, there are known issues of this sort with the 6-Feb-2004 security update, and there is a fix posted on the MS Web site -- see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;831167Product=ie600 for more info. Cheers! Mike - Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Beckett Park, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Chris Bowlby wrote: Hi Chris, He was referring to me actually : I will be able to look it over today and see if I can re-create the issue.. What he said :) Sorry, I usually refer to him as ChrisB when there could be confusion, forgot the B this time :( At 03:15 AM 3/2/04, Chris Shiflett wrote: --- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, you said you could recreate it ... can you check Beau's solution here to see if it solves the problem we are seeing? I'm confused. You're the one having this problem, right? Why don't *you* try his solution and tell us if it solves your problem. :-) I don't have a Windows box, so no, I never said I could recreate it. If I could, I'd try to solve the problem instead of asking for HTTP dumps. :-) Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly Coming mid-2004 HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams http://httphandbook.org/ PHP Community Site http://phpcommunity.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
--- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What he said :) Sorry, I usually refer to him as ChrisB when there could be confusion, forgot the B this time :( No problem. My apologies for the confusion. :-) Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly Coming mid-2004 HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams http://httphandbook.org/ PHP Community Site http://phpcommunity.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
We're having a weird problem with some of our PHP forms, where, when a client uses IE6 with the latest hotfixes, they are reporting that have to re-submit a couple of times for it to take ... as if somehow the data isn't being passed down properly to the FORM/ACTION ... We're using sessions to pass the data around, and it seems to work with every other browser we've used, including IE6 previous to the latest hotfixes ... but, could it be something that *we* aren't doing right, or is there a known bug with sessions + IE6? Some sort of work around? Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
--- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're having a weird problem with some of our PHP forms, where, when a client uses IE6 with the latest hotfixes, they are reporting that have to re-submit a couple of times for it to take ... as if somehow the data isn't being passed down properly to the FORM/ACTION ... I have heard from numerous sources that the latest patch for IE 6 (released a week or two ago) has a bug that causes it to have trouble sending a proper POST request. I don't have access to a Windows machine to test this myself, but it would be very nice if someone could help pinpoint what circumstances cause this behavior (surely it's not all POST requests). Capturing the raw request from a failed transaction would be a good first step, and you can send me this for interpretation if you like. I'm happy to help. Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly Coming mid-2004 HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams http://httphandbook.org/ PHP Community Site http://phpcommunity.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Chris Shiflett wrote: --- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're having a weird problem with some of our PHP forms, where, when a client uses IE6 with the latest hotfixes, they are reporting that have to re-submit a couple of times for it to take ... as if somehow the data isn't being passed down properly to the FORM/ACTION ... I have heard from numerous sources that the latest patch for IE 6 (released a week or two ago) has a bug that causes it to have trouble sending a proper POST request. I don't have access to a Windows machine to test this myself, but it would be very nice if someone could help pinpoint what circumstances cause this behavior (surely it's not all POST requests). Capturing the raw request from a failed transaction would be a good first step, and you can send me this for interpretation if you like. I'm happy to help. k, I have access to at leaset one box running the latest IE6 ... instructions on how to 'capture the raw request'? Don't mind doing the work, just need to know what work needs to be done ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
--- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have access to at leaset one box running the latest IE6 ... instructions on how to 'capture the raw request'? It's not easy if you've never used it, but I think the best bet for Windows is Ethereal (http://www.ethereal.com/download.html). You want to capture the HTTP traffic for a request/response scenario that fails. By inspecting the request and identifying the flaw in IE, we might be able to recommend a workaround for people. Also, pinpointing the specific circumstances in which IE fails would be very helpful. Thanks for helping. Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly Coming mid-2004 HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams http://httphandbook.org/ PHP Community Site http://phpcommunity.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
Marc: This could be related to the problem I described in detail a few days ago. Here was my solution: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalm=107751892631059w=2 Please let us know if this helps! Beau We're having a weird problem with some of our PHP forms, where, when a client uses IE6 with the latest hotfixes, they are reporting that have to re-submit a couple of times for it to take ... as if somehow the data isn't being passed down properly to the FORM/ACTION ... We're using sessions to pass the data around, and it seems to work with every other browser we've used, including IE6 previous to the latest hotfixes ... but, could it be something that *we* aren't doing right, or is there a known bug with sessions + IE6? Some sort of work around? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
Chris, you said you could recreate it ... can you check Beau's solution here to see if it solves the problem we are seeing? Beau's problem appears to have been with 5 and 5.5 also, which I didn't think were causing us problems, but it could also be that nobody reported them also ... On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Beau Hartshorne wrote: Marc: This could be related to the problem I described in detail a few days ago. Here was my solution: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalm=107751892631059w=2 Please let us know if this helps! Beau We're having a weird problem with some of our PHP forms, where, when a client uses IE6 with the latest hotfixes, they are reporting that have to re-submit a couple of times for it to take ... as if somehow the data isn't being passed down properly to the FORM/ACTION ... We're using sessions to pass the data around, and it seems to work with every other browser we've used, including IE6 previous to the latest hotfixes ... but, could it be something that *we* aren't doing right, or is there a known bug with sessions + IE6? Some sort of work around? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE6 with latest hotfixes breaks forms ...
--- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, you said you could recreate it ... can you check Beau's solution here to see if it solves the problem we are seeing? I'm confused. You're the one having this problem, right? Why don't *you* try his solution and tell us if it solves your problem. :-) I don't have a Windows box, so no, I never said I could recreate it. If I could, I'd try to solve the problem instead of asking for HTTP dumps. :-) Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly Coming mid-2004 HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams http://httphandbook.org/ PHP Community Site http://phpcommunity.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
