[PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Terion
Re: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Terion Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Terion Define easiest. What is it that you need to code? If you mean cookie cutter sites that have been done a million times with minimal flexibility... :) I'm in the same boat as you though. I don't know which one meets the needs I have the best. There's stuff like cake which is really easy to start up, then there's stuff like symphony that will let you do anything, but you really have to work at it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Terion Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Terion Define easiest. What is it that you need to code? If you mean cookie cutter sites that have been done a million times with minimal flexibility... :) I'm in the same boat as you though. I don't know which one meets the needs I have the best. There's stuff like cake which is really easy to start up, then there's stuff like symphony that will let you do anything, but you really have to work at it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php There are definite learning curves when picking these up. symfony and ZF have the largest because they either do more (symfony) or are designed to be used piecemeal (ZF) CodeIgnitor is one of the easiest ones to start using with Cake not far behind -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat
Re: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Terion Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Terion Define easiest. What is it that you need to code? If you mean cookie cutter sites that have been done a million times with minimal flexibility... :) I'm in the same boat as you though. I don't know which one meets the needs I have the best. There's stuff like cake which is really easy to start up, then there's stuff like symphony that will let you do anything, but you really have to work at it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php There are definite learning curves when picking these up. symfony and ZF have the largest because they either do more (symfony) or are designed to be used piecemeal (ZF) CodeIgnitor is one of the easiest ones to start using with Cake not far behind -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat I'll have to check out CodeIgnitor, I can say that with my limited ability I have set up Cake and made a db connection within 10 mins, and I'm not entirely confused and frustrated yet so thats a good sign ...lol terion
Re: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Terion Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Terion Define easiest. What is it that you need to code? If you mean cookie cutter sites that have been done a million times with minimal flexibility... :) I'm in the same boat as you though. I don't know which one meets the needs I have the best. There's stuff like cake which is really easy to start up, then there's stuff like symphony that will let you do anything, but you really have to work at it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php There are definite learning curves when picking these up. symfony and ZF have the largest because they either do more (symfony) or are designed to be used piecemeal (ZF) CodeIgnitor is one of the easiest ones to start using with Cake not far behind -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat One huge part of this that I didn't mention before is the community around the frameworks too. Do they have good docs, examples, stuff like that. Can you ask questions and get quality answers? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Terion Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Terion Define easiest. What is it that you need to code? If you mean cookie cutter sites that have been done a million times with minimal flexibility... :) I'm in the same boat as you though. I don't know which one meets the needs I have the best. There's stuff like cake which is really easy to start up, then there's stuff like symphony that will let you do anything, but you really have to work at it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php There are definite learning curves when picking these up. symfony and ZF have the largest because they either do more (symfony) or are designed to be used piecemeal (ZF) CodeIgnitor is one of the easiest ones to start using with Cake not far behind -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat One huge part of this that I didn't mention before is the community around the frameworks too. Do they have good docs, examples, stuff like that. Can you ask questions and get quality answers? i also take performance into consideration. heres a comparison between some of the aforementioned frameworks, http://www.avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks -nathan
Re: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Terion Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Terion Define easiest. What is it that you need to code? If you mean cookie cutter sites that have been done a million times with minimal flexibility... :) I'm in the same boat as you though. I don't know which one meets the needs I have the best. There's stuff like cake which is really easy to start up, then there's stuff like symphony that will let you do anything, but you really have to work at it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php There are definite learning curves when picking these up. symfony and ZF have the largest because they either do more (symfony) or are designed to be used piecemeal (ZF) CodeIgnitor is one of the easiest ones to start using with Cake not far behind -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat One huge part of this that I didn't mention before is the community around the frameworks too. Do they have good docs, examples, stuff like that. Can you ask questions and get quality answers? i also take performance into consideration. heres a comparison between some of the aforementioned frameworks, http://www.avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks -nathan Here's another http://www.yiiframework.com/performance/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc
-Original Message- From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:25 AM To: Bastien Koert Cc: Terion Miller; PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] Poll of Sorts: Application Frameworks--Zend, Cake etc On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Terion Miller wrote: Hey Everyone, I am wondering if using a framework such as one of these may make my life easier, which do any of you use and what has been your experience with the learning curve of them? I just put Cake on my local server, basically I want to know which is easiest? LOL... Define easiest. What is it that you need to code? If you mean cookie cutter sites that have been done a million times with minimal flexibility... :) I'm in the same boat as you though. I don't know which one meets the needs I have the best. There's stuff like cake which is really easy to start up, then there's stuff like symphony that will let you do anything, but you really have to work at it. There are definite learning curves when picking these up. symfony and ZF have the largest because they either do more (symfony) or are designed to be used piecemeal (ZF) CodeIgnitor is one of the easiest ones to start using with Cake not far One huge part of this that I didn't mention before is the community around the frameworks too. Do they have good docs, examples, stuff like that. Can you ask questions and get quality answers? I see people talk about the same handful of frameworks every time this question comes up. Has anyone used one of the underdog frameworks that are sprouting up at the fringes? PRADO? Yii? Simple PHP Framework? Akelos (Ruby on Rails port)? Seagull? BlueShoes? EvoCore? PHOCOA? Zoop? Stratos? Picora? SOLAR? FLOW3? Maintainable? Adventure-Framework? ...the list goes on. I thought Yii [1] seemed interesting, at the least. 1. http://www.yiiframework.com // Todd
