Karthikeyan.Balasubramanian wrote:
Hi,I browsed the web for many different web architecture and frameworks. I found many Interesting but all wants latest version of PHP at least PHP 4.0.6. I dont want to upgrade the PHP Version(4.0.5) that i have because many clients are using it and i dont want to mess it up. Its a Pain in PHP that to support any extension we need to recompile with appropriate extensions unlike Java where all you need to do is put the appropriate Jar files in the /Lib directory and it automatically gets SET in the classpath and works great but I do ADORE PHP for its ease and efficiency and ofcourse along with Apache it rocks. So please dont suggest me to upgrade my PHP or something other.
Maybe you shouldn't publicly talk about how you and your clients
are sticking with php4.0.5. It has known security holes, which
is just one of many reasons to upgrade. You *will* spend much more
time coding trying to make stuff work in PHP3 and early PHP4 than
you will by taking advantage of relatively modern PHP4 versions. Session handling is something which comes to mind, and improved
array handling. There will be things you can do in a few lines
of code in recent versions of PHP4 that you simply won't
be able to do at all, or not without *much* more work than
it's worth.
PHPGroupware.org *might* work for you. I know that there
was a stated goal of their code working on PHP3 and PHP4 installations.
I found that somewhat strange, but it was a goal. It may not
be anymore.
For *new* development, it doesn't make much sense to use the
old stuff. If you're running older versions and people have
apps that are running fine, that's another story, but even in
those cases, the security exploits make it an unwise
strategy for the long term.
"Pear which ofcourse needed recompilation with Pear support"
I don't think PEAR does require any recompilation. Certainly
with most of the PEAR stuff you can just use the source code
and it'll work fine. I would be very surprised if there wasn't
at least SOME PEAR code which required PHP4.0.6 or higher.
You don't need to recompile all of PHP, or at least you
don't need to place the entire recompiled version of PHP
into Apache again. You can usually compile "SO" files (shared
object files) which you can dl() or put in php.ini.
./configure --with-gd=shared
for example, will make a gd.so file suitable for dl() use.
"So please dont suggest me to upgrade my PHP or
something other."
Sorry, if you get many responses, at least some will suggest
you upgrade. This is like saying you drive a 6 year old car
(equivalent in internet time!) and that you *won't* get a newer
car (cause your passengers like the seats in the old car) but you
want all the benefits of a new engine. The fact that
the car has known safety hazards and that a new car is essentially
free aren't supposed to factor in to this? True, your
passengers may have to adjust to new seats, and they may not
like those seats as much as the old ones, but they'll have a
safer ride, and you'll have a new, more powerful engine.
I just can't think of too many valid reasons to not be running
at least PHP4.1.x, if not 4.2. 4.3 has only been out
for a few weeks, and I don't expect too many people to be
running that yet.
Most *interesting* development work in PHP regarding
frameworks involves people who are somewhat on the cutting
edge, using recent technology. They are most likely
not going to bother trying to support PHP4.0.5 and below.
Good luck.
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