[PHP] Re: Starting a big project

2005-05-01 Thread Sandy Keathley
 I'm about to start writing a big web app (mostly in PHP). But I'm not
 sure if I should layout the DB first then write the app, or should I
 just start writing the app and add stuff to the DB as I need it. How do you
 guys go about it?


You can't predict everything, but if you don't try to develop a very 
detailed spec, including the table layouts, you will (IMHO) be sorry.

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[PHP] Re: Starting a big project

2005-05-01 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,
on 05/01/2005 01:45 PM Danny Brow said the following:
I'm about to start writing a big web app (mostly in PHP). But I'm not
sure if I should layout the DB first then write the app, or should I
just start writing the app and add stuff to the DB as I need it. How do
you guys go about it?
If you want to implement a big project you should first make some 
analysis and plan it before going ahead to the implementation. For big 
projects, use case partioning is trongly encouraged. If you do not know 
what that is, I strongly encourage reading this book. It succing and 
straight to the point to get you started quickly.

http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/id/0201309815.html
When you finnaly come to the point of an implementation, I suggest a 
model driven object oriented approch. This means that instead of hand 
coding all the tables and SQL by hand, you should design a model of the 
entities of information of your project and use an object-relational 
mapping tool so in your application you treat every entity as objects: 
clients, products, transactions, etc..

Everything is an object, as opposed to sparse data in database. Then let 
the object relational tool do the tedious job storing and retrieving 
data from a relational database with SQL.

For this purpose, I suggest you use a tool like Metastorage, especially 
because your project is big. It will let you model your business objects 
and generates all access code and database schema in seconds. This will 
be very good for you because it will let you try different models that 
can be changed and regerated quickly until you figure the right model 
for your needs and keep changing it later if necessary.

http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html
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