RE: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Actually it is very possible with PHP through the use of temporary files, which is how this works. I have only tested the meter with IE and Mozilla (Firebird) on Windows with no problems. I will test on the Mac side but because its PHP performing the function, browsers should not matter. I have also read that an upload meter function was to be added to PHP 5 but was then dropped, I would love it if a PHP developer could offer some insight to these rumors. I know this is not the correct mailing list but maybe someone knows something. I've also added one more download on the site which gives an example php.ini file. I've tested the meter with a 160MB file on 128MB RAM 500Mhz K6 system. The download also includes sample HTML code. I'm working on adding CSS to customize the look a little more. Hope this will answer some questions. Steve -Original Message- From: Chris W. Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David T-G Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP Steve Murphy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, December 22, 2003 1:03 PM said: Well its actually a pure PHP upload meter it just uses JS to open the window. You could make PHP open the window as well with a little tweaking. Unless I'm missing something here this is incorrect. PHP does not bother the client side except to send data, i.e. html/javascript/etc. On another note: A possible solution might be to load the popup page in an iframe instead of popping a new window. afaik you can't open a window with plain html without a manual click? chris.
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ Steve Murphy wrote: Well its actually a pure PHP upload meter it just uses JS to open the window. You could make PHP open the window as well with a little tweaking. -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Steve Murphy Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: progress in php Steve -- ...and then Steve Murphy said... % % David, % A window will popup with the progress meter. Obviously don't block popups and try using a larger file if you have a high speed line, it takes a second for the meter to start and if the upload is done it won't popup properly. Ah. Since I don't use javascript I probably won't get a lot out of it :-) Darn; I was hoping for something non-JS. I guess I'll stick with my browser status window. % % Steve Thanks HAND Happy Holidays :-D -- Raditha Dissanayake. http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ | http://www.raditha.com/megaupload Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with | Mega Upload - PHP file uploader Graphical User Inteface. Just 150 KB | with progress bar. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 11:46:50AM -0500, Ed Curtis wrote: Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Check out http://pear.laurent-laville.org/HTML_Progress/. It is a pure php approach to displaying a progress bar. I haven't used it, but the demos look good. -- Jim Kaufman Linux Evangelist public key 0x6D802619 http://www.linuxforbusiness.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:31 PM, James Kaufman wrote: Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Check out http://pear.laurent-laville.org/HTML_Progress/. It is a pure php approach to displaying a progress bar. I haven't used it, but the demos look good. This a different thing. This is meant to track progress of server side tasks. File uploading is a client side task. Unfortunately, AFAIK there is no way to handle streams of HTTP requests. Therefore, there is no way to handle upload progress with a PHP only solution. The Raditha megaupload solution is based on a combination of Perl with PHP. It is probably the solution that uses more PHP but the hard work is done using Perl. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
How does perl show progress of the upload if it is a server side scripting language and php can't do it because it is server side? -Original Message- From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:31 PM, James Kaufman wrote: Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Check out http://pear.laurent-laville.org/HTML_Progress/. It is a pure php approach to displaying a progress bar. I haven't used it, but the demos look good. This a different thing. This is meant to track progress of server side tasks. File uploading is a client side task. Unfortunately, AFAIK there is no way to handle streams of HTTP requests. Therefore, there is no way to handle upload progress with a PHP only solution. The Raditha megaupload solution is based on a combination of Perl with PHP. It is probably the solution that uses more PHP but the hard work is done using Perl. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Raditha, et al -- ...and then Raditha Dissanayake said... % % Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little % help from perl) % http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ Sounds nice. Does it require JS in the browser? TIA HAND Happy Holidays :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:56 PM, Larry Brown wrote: How does perl show progress of the upload if it is a server side scripting language and php can't do it because it is server side? Because PHP does not provide support to handle the raw HTTP request. By the time that PHP scripts starts executing, PHP already processed the uploaded copying the incoming data to a temporary file. OTOH, Perl provides support to handle the incoming HTTP request as it happens, not after it is done. -Original Message- From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:31 PM, James Kaufman wrote: Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Check out http://pear.laurent-laville.org/HTML_Progress/. It is a pure php approach to displaying a progress bar. I haven't used it, but the demos look good. This a different thing. This is meant to track progress of server side tasks. File uploading is a client side task. Unfortunately, AFAIK there is no way to handle streams of HTTP requests. Therefore, there is no way to handle upload progress with a PHP only solution. The Raditha megaupload solution is based on a combination of Perl with PHP. It is probably the solution that uses more PHP but the hard work is done using Perl. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Hi To Manuel: You have answered the questions better than i could have :-) thanx. Yes perl is used because it gives access to raw post data. To Ed: If you are on a standard rpm distro all the modules are probably there already. and thus megaupload becomes plug and play. To David: It does use a javascript to make a popup that's all. If you eliminate the popup and show the progress bar in a frame you don't need any javascript at all To Everyone: Enjoy your christmas. best regards raditha Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:56 PM, Larry Brown wrote: How does perl show progress of the upload if it is a server side scripting language and php can't do it because it is server side? Because PHP does not provide support to handle the raw HTTP request. By the time that PHP scripts starts executing, PHP already processed the uploaded copying the incoming data to a temporary file. OTOH, Perl provides support to handle the incoming HTTP request as it happens, not after it is done. -Original Message- From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:31 PM, James Kaufman wrote: Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Check out http://pear.laurent-laville.org/HTML_Progress/. It is a pure php approach to displaying a progress bar. I haven't used it, but the demos look good. This a different thing. This is meant to track progress of server side tasks. File uploading is a client side task. Unfortunately, AFAIK there is no way to handle streams of HTTP requests. Therefore, there is no way to handle upload progress with a PHP only solution. The Raditha megaupload solution is based on a combination of Perl with PHP. It is probably the solution that uses more PHP but the hard work is done using Perl. -- Raditha Dissanayake. http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ | http://www.raditha.com/megaupload Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with | Mega Upload - PHP file uploader Graphical User Inteface. Just 150 KB | with progress bar. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:56 PM, Larry Brown wrote: How does perl show progress of the upload if it is a server side scripting language and php can't do it because it is server side? The problem is not showing progress but rather tracking progress. What you seem to not be understanding is that PHP handles uploads internally. So, by the time a PHP script that gets the submitted upload form starts running, the upload was already ended and the uploaded files were copied to some temporary files. PHP itself does not give you a chance to track the progress of the upload because that is something handled at the HTTP request level. The Perl solution is based on a script that handles and tracks the upload and another that shows the progress. That is why you need to show progress in a popup or a separate frame. -Original Message- From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:31 PM, James Kaufman wrote: Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Check out http://pear.laurent-laville.org/HTML_Progress/. It is a pure php approach to displaying a progress bar. I haven't used it, but the demos look good. This a different thing. This is meant to track progress of server side tasks. File uploading is a client side task. Unfortunately, AFAIK there is no way to handle streams of HTTP requests. Therefore, there is no way to handle upload progress with a PHP only solution. The Raditha megaupload solution is based on a combination of Perl with PHP. It is probably the solution that uses more PHP but the hard work is done using Perl. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
FWIW, here is a link to a PHP extension which enables the ability to track the progress of a PHP upload. I did not write the extension, so if it breaks something I am not responsible. It was previously discussed on the php-dev mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) a month or two ago, but it was never decided if it would be officially added into PHP. http://pdoru.from.ro/ -Jeremy On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 23:15, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:56 PM, Larry Brown wrote: How does perl show progress of the upload if it is a server side scripting language and php can't do it because it is server side? The problem is not showing progress but rather tracking progress. What you seem to not be understanding is that PHP handles uploads internally. So, by the time a PHP script that gets the submitted upload form starts running, the upload was already ended and the uploaded files were copied to some temporary files. PHP itself does not give you a chance to track the progress of the upload because that is something handled at the HTTP request level. The Perl solution is based on a script that handles and tracks the upload and another that shows the progress. That is why you need to show progress in a popup or a separate frame. -Original Message- From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP Hello, On 12/23/2003 03:31 PM, James Kaufman wrote: Join the 11,000 people who use megaupload progress bar (with a little help from perl) http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/megaupload/ I tried. It wasn't worth all the perl mods I would to have had to install to make it work. Check out http://pear.laurent-laville.org/HTML_Progress/. It is a pure php approach to displaying a progress bar. I haven't used it, but the demos look good. This a different thing. This is meant to track progress of server side tasks. File uploading is a client side task. Unfortunately, AFAIK there is no way to handle streams of HTTP requests. Therefore, there is no way to handle upload progress with a PHP only solution. The Raditha megaupload solution is based on a combination of Perl with PHP. It is probably the solution that uses more PHP but the hard work is done using Perl. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Hello, On 12/24/2003 03:47 AM, Jeremy Johnstone wrote: FWIW, here is a link to a PHP extension which enables the ability to track the progress of a PHP upload. I did not write the extension, so if it breaks something I am not responsible. It was previously discussed on the php-dev mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) a month or two ago, but it was never decided if it would be officially added into PHP. http://pdoru.from.ro/ This is not really an extension but rather a patch to change PHP behaviour in order to store upload progress in files that can be examined by another process. Apparently, nobody with enough karma seemed interested to commit the patch. It probably needs further checking to ensure that it is safe to execute, especially in shared environments where different hosting clients may be using the same Web server. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: progress in php (was Re: [PHP] Working pop-up progress window)
Steve, et al -- ...and then Steve Murphy said... % % Every time I see someone ask about an upload meter a hardcore programmer writes back saying no one ever asks for it so why should anyone work on one? I have a demo up of what you might be looking for, check it out here: Heh :-) I always ask what's wrong with progress bar in your browser? % % http://www.pfohlsolutions.com/projects/upload/ That didn't keep me from trying this, though; it would be interesting. Unfortunately I tried the demo and uploaded a 466k zip file and got nothing until I then got the File Upload Complete result page. Um, what is it supposed to do? TIA HAND Happy Holidays :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [PHP] Re: progress in php (was Re: [PHP] Working pop-up progress window)
David, A window will popup with the progress meter. Obviously don't block popups and try using a larger file if you have a high speed line, it takes a second for the meter to start and if the upload is done it won't popup properly. Steve -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 2:20 PM To: PHP General list Cc: Steve Murphy Subject: [PHP] Re: progress in php (was Re: [PHP] Working pop-up progress window) Steve, et al -- ...and then Steve Murphy said... % % Every time I see someone ask about an upload meter a hardcore programmer writes back saying no one ever asks for it so why should anyone work on one? I have a demo up of what you might be looking for, check it out here: Heh :-) I always ask what's wrong with progress bar in your browser? % % http://www.pfohlsolutions.com/projects/upload/ That didn't keep me from trying this, though; it would be interesting. Unfortunately I tried the demo and uploaded a 466k zip file and got nothing until I then got the File Upload Complete result page. Um, what is it supposed to do? TIA HAND Happy Holidays :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in php
Steve -- ...and then Steve Murphy said... % % David, % A window will popup with the progress meter. Obviously don't block popups and try using a larger file if you have a high speed line, it takes a second for the meter to start and if the upload is done it won't popup properly. Ah. Since I don't use javascript I probably won't get a lot out of it :-) Darn; I was hoping for something non-JS. I guess I'll stick with my browser status window. % % Steve Thanks HAND Happy Holidays :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Well its actually a pure PHP upload meter it just uses JS to open the window. You could make PHP open the window as well with a little tweaking. -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Steve Murphy Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: progress in php Steve -- ...and then Steve Murphy said... % % David, % A window will popup with the progress meter. Obviously don't block popups and try using a larger file if you have a high speed line, it takes a second for the meter to start and if the upload is done it won't popup properly. Ah. Since I don't use javascript I probably won't get a lot out of it :-) Darn; I was hoping for something non-JS. I guess I'll stick with my browser status window. % % Steve Thanks HAND Happy Holidays :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Steve, et al -- ...and then Steve Murphy said... % % Well its actually a pure PHP upload meter it just uses JS to open the window. You could make PHP open the window as well with a little tweaking. Now that might interest me. So what has been added to the PHP codebase that makes this work? And what tweaking would I need to do? [Can't I just have it display in the current window? Why bother with a popup?] Thanks HAND Happy Holidays :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Steve Murphy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, December 22, 2003 1:03 PM said: Well its actually a pure PHP upload meter it just uses JS to open the window. You could make PHP open the window as well with a little tweaking. Unless I'm missing something here this is incorrect. PHP does not bother the client side except to send data, i.e. html/javascript/etc. On another note: A possible solution might be to load the popup page in an iframe instead of popping a new window. afaik you can't open a window with plain html without a manual click? chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: progress in PHP
Now that might interest me. So what has been added to the PHP codebase that makes this work? And what tweaking would I need to do? [Can't I just have it display in the current window? Why bother with a popup?] From rumors I've heard on the list a future version of PHP may have a progress bar function built in. Don't know if it's true or not but it would be nice. Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
