Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:46:35 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote:
I've tested it again, from scratch with Notepad editor:
echoUTF8.php?php require(echoUTF8sub.php); ?
echoUTF8sub.php ?php echo test; ?
and keep getting strange characters.
Would you be so kind to run these 2 scripts on your pc ?
Works fine for me, probably because my copy of Notepad
is so old it has never heard of Unicode...
Here's another test:
echoUTF8.php:
-
?php require 'echoUTF8sub.php';
echoUTF8sub.php:
?php echo \xef\xbb\xbf, test\n; // Manual BOM
When I run this from a browser, I get different output
depend on the server's and browser's default charset,
and PHP's default_charset setting.
I get consistent results when I add
header ('Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8');
to echoUTF8.php.
(When the scripts are run from command-line, the output
would also depend on the shells ability to handle utf-8.)
/Nisse
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Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ?
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 12:36 +0100, Nisse Engström wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:46:35 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote:
I've tested it again, from scratch with Notepad editor:
echoUTF8.php?php require(echoUTF8sub.php); ?
echoUTF8sub.php ?php echo test; ?
and keep getting strange characters.
Would you be so kind to run these 2 scripts on your pc ?
Works fine for me, probably because my copy of Notepad
is so old it has never heard of Unicode...
Here's another test:
echoUTF8.php:
-
?php require 'echoUTF8sub.php';
echoUTF8sub.php:
?php echo \xef\xbb\xbf, test\n; // Manual BOM
When I run this from a browser, I get different output
depend on the server's and browser's default charset,
and PHP's default_charset setting.
I get consistent results when I add
header ('Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8');
to echoUTF8.php.
(When the scripts are run from command-line, the output
would also depend on the shells ability to handle utf-8.)
/Nisse
I know this might be going slightly off topic, but just wanted to
suggest Notepad++ as an alternative text editor. I use it when I work on
Windows systems, and it's been a great boon, adding some of those nice
features as well as supporting utf-8, etc.
Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ?
Thanks Nisse, - Original Message - From: Nisse Engström news.nospam.0ixbt...@luden.se To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ? On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:11:49 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote: I saved both scripts with ANSI in stead of UTF-8 and the problem is gone. So the utf-8 BOM character (Byte Order Mark) caused it. Unfortunately my editor has no option to store BOM-free scripts. Is it standard that PHP scripts should be saved without a BOM character ? This is not a PHP matter, unless PHP 6 (which will have Unicode support) does something with it. PHP 5 just outputs it as is. A BOM character is supposed to be the *first* character in a text stream. Otherwise it should be treated as a ZERO WIDTH NON-BREAKING SPACE. http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#bom1 Test results ... If test.php (utf8) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has C�testD, size 9 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has CtestD, size 7 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (ansi), page source has CtestD, size 6 The reason for asking is that sometimes  is displayed on some pages. That means you've used a utf-8 BOM in a page using an 8-bit character encoding (eg. iso-8859-1 or similar), or that you have utf-8 encoded it twice. /Nisse I've tested it again, from scratch with Notepad editor: echoUTF8.php?php require(echoUTF8sub.php); ? echoUTF8sub.php ?php echo test; ? and keep getting strange characters. Would you be so kind to run these 2 scripts on your pc ? TIA, Cor -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ?
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 15:46 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Nisse, - Original Message - From: Nisse Engström news.nospam.0ixbt...@luden.se To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ? On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:11:49 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote: I saved both scripts with ANSI in stead of UTF-8 and the problem is gone. So the utf-8 BOM character (Byte Order Mark) caused it. Unfortunately my editor has no option to store BOM-free scripts. Is it standard that PHP scripts should be saved without a BOM character ? This is not a PHP matter, unless PHP 6 (which will have Unicode support) does something with it. PHP 5 just outputs it as is. A BOM character is supposed to be the *first* character in a text stream. Otherwise it should be treated as a ZERO WIDTH NON-BREAKING SPACE. http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#bom1 Test results ... If test.php (utf8) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has C�testD, size 9 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has CtestD, size 7 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (ansi), page source has CtestD, size 6 The reason for asking is that sometimes  is displayed on some pages. That means you've used a utf-8 BOM in a page using an 8-bit character encoding (eg. iso-8859-1 or similar), or that you have utf-8 encoded it twice. /Nisse I've tested it again, from scratch with Notepad editor: echoUTF8.php?php require(echoUTF8sub.php); ? echoUTF8sub.php ?php echo test; ? and keep getting strange characters. Would you be so kind to run these 2 scripts on your pc ? TIA, Cor Erm, what scripts?... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:11:49 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote: I saved both scripts with ANSI in stead of UTF-8 and the problem is gone. So the utf-8 BOM character (Byte Order Mark) caused it. Unfortunately my editor has no option to store BOM-free scripts. Is it standard that PHP scripts should be saved without a BOM character ? This is not a PHP matter, unless PHP 6 (which will have Unicode support) does something with it. PHP 5 just outputs it as is. A BOM character is supposed to be the *first* character in a text stream. Otherwise it should be treated as a ZERO WIDTH NON-BREAKING SPACE. http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#bom1 Test results ... If test.php (utf8) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has C�testD, size 9 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has CtestD, size 7 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (ansi), page source has CtestD, size 6 The reason for asking is that sometimes  is displayed on some pages. That means you've used a utf-8 BOM in a page using an 8-bit character encoding (eg. iso-8859-1 or similar), or that you have utf-8 encoded it twice. /Nisse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:41 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote: I have a script called test.php: ?php echo C; require(echo.php); echo D; ? and a script called echo.php: ?php echo test; ? With IE and Firefox it shows: CtestD but when I view the source, it seems to be: C�testD When debugging it, it seems that: CtestD has length 9 in stead of 6 pos1has char=C ord=67 pos2has char=� ord=239 pos3has char=� ord=187 pos4has char=� ord=191 rest okay ... Any idea what's causing this and how to solve it ? echo.php has a utf-8 BOM character (Byte Order Mark). See if your editor has an option to store it without a BOM. /Nisse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ?
Thanks Paul Nisse, I saved both scripts with ANSI in stead of UTF-8 and the problem is gone. So the utf-8 BOM character (Byte Order Mark) caused it. Unfortunately my editor has no option to store BOM-free scripts. Is it standard that PHP scripts should be saved without a BOM character ? Test results ... If test.php (utf8) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has C�testD, size 9 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (utf8), page source has CtestD, size 7 If test.php (ansi) requires echo.php (ansi), page source has CtestD, size 6 The reason for asking is that sometimes  is displayed on some pages. Regards, Cor - Original Message - From: Nisse Engström news.nospam.0ixbt...@luden.se To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:21 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: require() causing strange characters ? On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:41 +0100, cr.vege...@gmail.com wrote: I have a script called test.php: ?php echo C; require(echo.php); echo D; ? and a script called echo.php: ?php echo test; ? With IE and Firefox it shows: CtestD but when I view the source, it seems to be: C�testD When debugging it, it seems that: CtestD has length 9 in stead of 6 pos1has char=C ord=67 pos2has char=� ord=239 pos3has char=� ord=187 pos4has char=� ord=191 rest okay ... Any idea what's causing this and how to solve it ? echo.php has a utf-8 BOM character (Byte Order Mark). See if your editor has an option to store it without a BOM. /Nisse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
