Re: [PHP] Top/bottom posting holy war *cringe* (was: New to PHP)

2008-10-13 Thread TG
I concede only that the PHP list has a requested style (bottom posting).  I 
disagree on it's usefulness OVER top posting.

I'm perfectly able to read top or bottom posted messages with nearly equal 
fluidity.  I find top posting to be more fluid and useful.  I've never 
quite sure why this becomes a holy war.  Why can't some people do it one 
way and others do it the other way?  It's nice when everyone does it the 
same way, but with the indenting/prefixing lines of replies, it's easy 
enough to see what the last message was that the current top or bottom 
posted reply goes to.

Because this is such a hot button issue, I cringed when I saw it brought up 
as a response to a new member saying Hi and looking for PHP coding 
recommendations because it always leads to these discussions.  No good can 
come of even discussing it or bringing it up except to show people who 
aren't aware, that there IS a choice in the matter.



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Re: [PHP] Top/bottom posting holy war *cringe* (was: New to PHP)

2008-10-13 Thread Davi Vidal
On Monday 13 October 2008 13:44:27 TG wrote:
 I concede only that the PHP list has a requested style (bottom posting).  I
 disagree on it's usefulness OVER top posting.


So, this is the only list that you read.

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RE: [PHP] Top/bottom posting holy war *cringe* (was: New to PHP)

2008-10-13 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: TG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:44 AM
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Top/bottom posting holy war *cringe* (was: New to
 PHP)
 
 I concede only that the PHP list has a requested style (bottom
 posting).  I
 disagree on it's usefulness OVER top posting.
 
 I'm perfectly able to read top or bottom posted messages with nearly
 equal
 fluidity.  I find top posting to be more fluid and useful.  I've never
 quite sure why this becomes a holy war.  Why can't some people do it
 one
 way and others do it the other way?  It's nice when everyone does it
 the
 same way, but with the indenting/prefixing lines of replies, it's easy
 enough to see what the last message was that the current top or bottom
 posted reply goes to.
 
 Because this is such a hot button issue, I cringed when I saw it
 brought up
 as a response to a new member saying Hi and looking for PHP coding
 recommendations because it always leads to these discussions.  No good
 can
 come of even discussing it or bringing it up except to show people who
 aren't aware, that there IS a choice in the matter.

So.. you concede to ignore the requested style, then?

As for near-equal fluidity.. I don't believe you. Plainly and simply, I
do not believe your claim. That is, of course, unless you've been
reading bottom-to-top since you were a child in some bizarre psychology
experiment placed on your shoulders by your parents...

It boils down to this: if you've been participating in the discussion
adamantly, then yes--top posting probably won't throw you off. However,
for people who are jumping in the middle (perhaps they saw a keyword
related to something they are working on, or they just joined the list,
etc.) it can become quite confusing. This is a mailing list. On top of
that (no pun intended), it is a public mailing list. As such, there will
be many individuals reading conversations without having been around for
the start of them.

More confusing still is the some do it this way, some do it that way
proposal you have issued. When messages are replied to using both
conventions, the flow of the conversation looks like a seismic gauge
during an earthquake.


Todd Boyd
Web Programmer

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