On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 23:42 +, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
I hate div'itis as well. Some people seem to think it's a big faux pas
to use table tags now, when that couldn't be more wrong. Use tables for
tabular data, CSS for the rest (with as few exceptions - and there are
always some eh - as
I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly Learning PHP 5 book and I
have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a
couple of questions.
First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it
works great. When I run the same code in a browser it does not put
Don Collier wrote:
First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it
works great. When I run the same code in a browser it does not put
the newline in and the text runs together. I know that I can use
br/ to do the same thing, but why is it this way?
That's how HTML
Don Collier wrote:
I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly Learning PHP 5 book and I
have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a
couple of questions.
First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it
works great. When I run the same code in a
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote:
I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly Learning PHP 5 book and I
have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a
couple of questions.
First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it
works
Paul M Foster wrote:
If you want exact layout (columns
lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables.
The horror.
Do not use tables for layout.
Use CSS.
Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending out IE 8 which
seems to be fully CCS standards compliant.
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 14:40 -0500, Stephen wrote:
Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending out IE 8
which
seems to be fully CCS standards compliant.
*snigger*
I'll believe that when I see it, rather I give it to you oh web
developers everywhere, that this is just a new M$
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote:
I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly Learning PHP 5 book and I
have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a
couple of questions.
First, when I use the \n and run the script from
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Don Collier dcoll...@collierclan.comwrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote:
I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly Learning PHP 5 book and I
have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it
2009/1/28 Stephen stephe...@rogers.com:
Don Collier wrote:
I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly Learning PHP 5 book and I have
a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a couple of
questions.
First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it works
Don Collier wrote:
From what I am seeing in the responses if I plan on using php for
command line scripts things get written one way. If, on the other
hand, the php is written for a web page it gets written a slightly
different way inserting html where necessary for formatting.
No, the
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:40:55PM -0500, Stephen wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
If you want exact layout (columns
lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables.
The horror.
Do not use tables for layout.
Use CSS.
Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:06:36PM -0500, Bastien Koert wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Don Collier dcoll...@collierclan.comwrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote:
I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly Learning PHP 5 book and I
have a
, January 28, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question
Paul M Foster wrote:
If you want exact layout (columns
lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables.
The horror.
Do not use tables for layout.
Use CSS.
Especially now that Microsoft, just this week
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.comwrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:06:36PM -0500, Bastien Koert wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Don Collier dcoll...@collierclan.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
See? This is what I'm talking about.
*I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is
just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books on PHP
(IMO). And you're throwing MVC at him. Let him master the subtleties of
the language first,
Don Collier dcoll...@collierclan.com wrote in message
news:4980c3d3.8040...@collierclan.com...
Paul M Foster wrote:
See? This is what I'm talking about.
*I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is
just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 13:45 -0700, Don Collier wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
See? This is what I'm talking about.
*I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is
just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books on PHP
(IMO). And you're throwing MVC
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 15:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:40:55PM -0500, Stephen wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
If you want exact layout (columns
lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables.
The horror.
Do not use tables for layout.
...@quillandmouse.com
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
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Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question
Paul M Foster wrote:
If you want exact layout (columns
lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables.
The horror.
Do not use tables
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to
design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I find it quicker
to use tables is when I design forms. I know I'm going to browser hell,
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From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:41 PM
To: Paul M Foster
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question
Paul M Foster wrote:
If you want exact layout (columns
lined up, etc.), the simplest
Boyd, Todd M. wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:41 PM
To: Paul M Foster
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question
Paul M Foster wrote:
If you want exact layout (columns
lined up
Boyd, Todd M. wrote:
The horror.
Do not use tables for layout.
Use CSS.
Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending out IE 8
which
seems to be fully CCS standards compliant.
Your high horse--get off of it.
Dude! Did you read what I wrote? I wrote do not use tables for
-Original Message-
From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:40 PM
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question
Boyd, Todd M. wrote:
Finally, just because IE8 is (supposed to be) fully CSS standards
compliant
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:45:07PM -0700, Don Collier wrote:
On that note, what would be a better book to learn from? I have always
been a fan of the O'Reilly books, but I am open to differing flavors of
kool-aid. One can never have too many resources.
The book that sits on my desk and is
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:33:19PM -0500, Ernie Kemp wrote:
Is there any advantage to using CSS over table and would it be idea to go
to
past website and change them.
If it works, don't fix it. If you want to take the time to figure out
how to get those same layouts in CSS, have a blast. But
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:26:10PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
snip
I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to
design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I find it quicker
to use tables is when I design forms. I know I'm going to browser hell,
but meh,
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 16:05 -0600, Boyd, Todd M. wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:41 PM
To: Paul M Foster
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question
Paul M Foster wrote
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:26:10PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
snip
I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to
design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I find it quicker
to use tables is when I design forms. I know I'm going to
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:41:31PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:26:10PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
snip
I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to
design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I find it
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:45:07PM -0700, Don Collier wrote:
On that note, what would be a better book to learn from? I have always
been a fan of the O'Reilly books, but I am open to differing flavors of
kool-aid. One can never have too many resources.
The
I'm new to php but want to use it for a music club's website I'm
working on. Specifically, I want to create an online form that the
booking agent can fill out with information like Date, Time, Cover
Charge, Band Name, Description, etc and have this data populate the
calendar page in
Luke Brindley mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:37 AM said:
Specifically, I want to create an online form that the
booking agent can fill out with information like Date, Time, Cover
Charge, Band Name, Description, etc and have this data populate the
calendar page in
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