Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread pete M
I write my code with pencil and paper and then scan it.. Dont need an editor ! John Nichel wrote: I know we've discussed this numerous times, but I'll chime in again (mainly because I'm bored). By far, I have been totally satisfied with UltraEdit. Lightweight, just about any language you

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
I like accelerators I just didnt like the price. So I wrote my own, but I havent worked all the bugs out yet. From: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: PHP-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: 24 Sep 2003 09:44:40

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:34:33 -0400 FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
in the HTML or php. But again thats just me. From: Kevin Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cesar Cordovez [EMAIL PROTECTED], PHP-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:04:45 -0400 Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
lmao .. good one. From: pete M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:59:19 +0100 I write my code with pencil and paper and then scan it.. Dont need an editor ! John Nichel wrote: I know we've discussed this numerous

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
:12 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I bet you don't indent your code either. And all white characters are useless too, they only slow interpreter down. Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: if($pos_params!=false){$back_url=substr($HTTP_GET_VARS['origin'],0,$pos_para ms

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
you can create so-called assistants... You can create a loop that asks in a table how many rows and columns do you want in that table. Then you can have it create the table with all your favorite default table settings, but while it is generating it, you could have it prompt you for

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:52 AM said: I already answered that question two days ago. I didn't ask you to answer it twice so I don't what you're talking about. c, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
if you will.. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jim Lucas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Chris W. Parker' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'jeffrey pearson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
] PHP Editor - which to use? Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:52 AM said: I already answered that question two days ago. I didn't ask you to answer it twice so I don't what you're talking about. c, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
I guess you could call them helper scripts libraries. Example would be: You can program a script to create a switch statement and then have it prompt you for the number of case statements to add in and if you want them to break; or not. Things like that. Short cuts if you will..

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread tjr
AEdiX - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl, java

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Ralph Guzman
Editor - which to use? I like NoteTab from www.notetab.com It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. And best of all, there is a free version that does most everything the full priced copy does. Plus, one added feature is, is that it will allow

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
priced copy does. Plus, one added feature is, is that it will allow you to do internal scripting. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Didier McGillis
into the production environment. But really unless you are dealing with hight traffic sites, your not going to see a difference. From: Marek Kilimajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:12:04

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Cummings
: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl, java, and many others through modules that are downloadable from their web site, DOESNT change code like

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Didier McGillis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): alot easier for me with the returns and tabs. What I do is I have a script that strips out any space, tabs, carriage returns and then moves the code into the production environment. But really unless you are dealing with In some cases,

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 09:43, Curt Zirzow wrote: * Thus wrote Didier McGillis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): alot easier for me with the returns and tabs. What I do is I have a script that strips out any space, tabs, carriage returns and then moves the code into the production environment. But

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Robert Cummings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): *COUGH* *COUGH* EVERY REAL coder knows that you have to use the following brace style for your code to be accepted into the l33t hierarchy of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if( $pos_params != false ) { $back_url = substr( $HTTP_GET_VARS['origin'],

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi, Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: [snip horrible code] if($pos_params!=false) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so testing it like this is pretty much pointless. It makes more sense (and is much more readable IMHO) to do something like this: if

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Curt Zirzow wrote: cat | realprogrammer | in_a_rush if($p) { $bu = substr( $_GET['o'], 0, $p ); $bup = substr( $_GET['o'], ++$p ); } else { $bu = $_GET['o']; $bup = ''; } This is a real world example of how real programmer in a rush can introduce bugs. Original example did not modify $p

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Jon Haworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: [snip horrible code] if($pos_params!=false) um... you rewrote that, his code was: if( $pos_params != false ) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Jon Haworth wrote: if($pos_params!=false) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so testing it like this is pretty much pointless. It makes more sense (and is much more readable IMHO) to do something like this: if ($pos_params) { // something } From the futher reading

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Kevin Bruce
FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's inception when I was writing static sites. I use OSX for my writing platform and occasionally use BBedit as

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread andu
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:34:33 -0400 Kevin Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's inception when I was writing

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Cesar Cordovez
THE best text/code editor in this planet is BBEdit. No questions about it. It is a pitty it only runs on Macs. I have used it to write text, code fortran, pascal, c, c++, html, css and php (among others). It is great, I love it. Kudos to Bare Bones! Great find/replace utility. Incredible

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Kevin Bruce
Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how it turns out. Yes, Dreamweaver does sucketh much, but it's great for hashing out the page (WYSIWYG style) then tweeking the code. I Hate (capital H) hand typing nested tables.* :P *high school memoryHwat the hell do I need typing

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Clint Tredway
The new Dreamweaver is much better than the previous version. I still have not found 'the ideal' editor for me and I use several tools. The one tool that looks like it could become my tool of choice could be eclipse. because you can build custom editors (plugins) for anything you need. Clint

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread John Nichel
I know we've discussed this numerous times, but I'll chime in again (mainly because I'm bored). By far, I have been totally satisfied with UltraEdit. Lightweight, just about any language you want to edit, user configurable syntax highlighting (for those into that), handles UNIX / DOS / Mac

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:04:45PM -0400, Kevin Bruce wrote: : : Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how it turns out. : Yes, Dreamweaver does sucketh much, but it's great for hashing out the page : (WYSIWYG style) then tweeking the code. I Hate (capital H) hand typing :

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Gal
The Best is the GTK verstion of the classic VI editor (latest VI 6.2 - uses GTK 2 on Linux) and there is also a Windows version. It's the best and you don't have to pay for licenses. http://www.vim.org/index.php Notepad - is very poor. you can not controle tabs spaces, see white space and

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Evan Nemerson
In you php.ini, set error_append_string to ... you loser! On Monday 22 September 2003 07:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must either be insane, a genius, or joking. Some of the most gifted people in the world are all three! Not that I'm claiming to be one, but yes I'm all three. :-D

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread jeffrey pearson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:00 am Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? well, i like to use dreamweaver mx or textpad with the syntax highlighting file you additionally have to download. i dunno if there are special php- must-have-editors. grtz jan

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Lucas
scripting. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:56 AM said: Plus, one added feature is, is that it will allow you to do internal scripting. What are you able to do with internal scripting? chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jason Wong
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 00:56, Jim Lucas wrote: I like NoteTab from www.notetab.com It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Does that mean php shouldn't have any error reporting whatsoever, because it encourages bad incompetent

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Does that mean php shouldn't have any error reporting whatsoever, because it encourages bad incompetent coders who rely on being mollycoddled? [/snip] Mollycoddled indeed! I remember when I

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Ryan A
It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. O holy genius coder, we bow to you, forgive uswhy did we take the straight and easy path instead of the rough and true path... -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Chris W. Parker
Ryan A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:10 AM said: O holy genius coder, we bow to you, forgive uswhy did we take the straight and easy path instead of the rough and true path... Because we are not ereet. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Chris W. Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Ryan A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:10 AM said: O holy genius coder, we bow to you, forgive uswhy did we take the straight and easy path instead of the rough and true path... Because we are not

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Lucas
Editor - which to use? Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:56 AM said: Plus, one added feature is, is that it will allow you to do internal scripting. What are you able to do with internal scripting? chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Lucas
23, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? On Wednesday 24 September 2003 00:56, Jim Lucas wrote: I like NoteTab from www.notetab.com It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Does that mean php shouldn't have

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Ruessel, Jan
well, i like to use dreamweaver mx or textpad with the syntax highlighting file you additionally have to download. i dunno if there are special php-must-have-editors. grtz jan -Original Message- From: Binay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 22. September 2003 10:58 To: [EMAIL

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Ryan A
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? well, i like to use dreamweaver mx or textpad with the syntax highlighting file you additionally have to download. i dunno if there are special php-must-have-editors. grtz jan

[PHP] RE : [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread BENARD Jean-philippe
for a professional use. Cordialement, Jean-Philippe BENARD Consultant STERIA Infogérance ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Message d'origine- De : Ruessel, Jan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : lundi 22 septembre 2003 11:00 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? well, i like to use

Re: [PHP] RE : [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Duncan Hill
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 11:35, BENARD Jean-philippe wrote: Not a php-must-have-editors but useful ones, for example, are phpEd and Zend Studio (text completion, functions library, ...). I found that Zend Studio is a good one because of internal CVS connexions, work on UNIX Windows systems,

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Becoming Digital
www.becomingdigital.com wishes | www.amazon.com/o/registry/EGDXEBBWTYUU - Original Message - From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2003 05:07 Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Hey Personally I dont think any 1 is good for all purposes...I use

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Jason Sheets
works for you. Edward Dudlik Becoming Digital www.becomingdigital.com wishes | www.amazon.com/o/registry/EGDXEBBWTYUU - Original Message - From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2003 05:07 Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Hey

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Chris W. Parker
Binay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 22, 2003 1:58 AM said: Please suggest me a good PHP editor like ( Microsoft's Interdev for ASP) to write my php programs/scripts and get a visual feel. Doesn't fit in the visual feel category but I really like HTML-Kit available at

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Ray Hunter
PHP eclipse is also nice, you need eclipse from http://www.eclipse.org and then you install the PHP Eclipse module http://phpeclipse.sourceforge.net. Very easy to install, I am a big fan of Komodo, I also like Vim, Kate and Eclipse. I tried Zend Studio 1 and 2 but it didn't live up to

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread NukedWeb
Best PHP Editor on the market: called Notepad. Written by a tiny little software dev company called Microsoft. Very nicely written, compared to the rest of their software.

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 22:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best PHP Editor on the market: called Notepad. Written by a tiny little software dev company called Microsoft. Very nicely written, compared to the rest of their software. Nh, a slightly larger company named Microsoft Inc. created an

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Dan Anderson
Best PHP Editor on the market: called Notepad. Written by a tiny little software dev company called Microsoft. Very nicely written, compared to the rest of their software. You must either be insane, a genius, or joking. I couldn't imagine writing code without context sensitive highlighting

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread NukedWeb
You must either be insane, a genius, or joking. Some of the most gifted people in the world are all three! Not that I'm claiming to be one, but yes I'm all three. :-D I couldn't imagine writing code without context sensitive highlighting -- there are so many bugs that would be overlooked. -