RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-12 Thread Dominick Vansevenant

I think 8 USD a month is good value, I pay 10 USD now on phpwebhosting.com
Their admin service is down a lot, speed is acceptable. However, they
had their server crashed once, all email accounts were deleted. They
apparently
had problems with backup. I recreated the email addresses since my business
depends on it. After I recreated the email accounts they managed to delete
the
accounts _again_ by apparently trying to restore some ancient backup or
something.
My business was closed then for a week, I was out of the country so all
emails
sent to my addresses kept bouncing for a week. I guess it cost me revenue, I
am
still with that same hosting provider, didn't take the effort in moving my 2
domains

 sigh 

D.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 11 april 2001 3:07
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Subject: Re: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___


I'm not trying to provide the level of service of a large isp or even
get 100 customers.  I would just like to pay for my half of the web
portal.  I thought $8/mo for my service would be a good value for php
programmers who do not need a high level of security.

Would you say $8/mo is not a good value for the level of service I
will provide?

Web hosting is not my main business.  I'm a software developer.


Earlier I wrote:
 I'm no security expert, but I can apply the most important patches.
 Yesterday I added mod_ssl to apache.

I didn't mean adding ssl is a patch.  I know how to apply patches to
source code and make other updates.


On 10 Apr 2001 15:12:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Phillip Bow") wrote:

Hi,
I don't mean to bash, but these sort of answers don't give me a lot of
faith in the service you are starting.  At the very least I expect my
service provider to provide competent answers to questions,  and to know
the
basics of security.

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Re: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Greer

On 10 Apr 2001 19:08:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seung-woo Nam)
wrote:

Jeffrey Greer wrote:
 
 I'm not trying to provide the level of service of a large isp or even
 get 100 customers.  I would just like to pay for my half of the web
 portal.  I thought $8/mo for my service would be a good value for php
 programmers who do not need a high level of security.
 
 Would you say $8/mo is not a good value for the level of service I
 will provide?
 
 Web hosting is not my main business.  I'm a software developer.
 
Well, then what's that all about 'hosting your business' thing on your
website? And I wonder how will you possibly garantee the uptime you talk
about on the site? $8 is a cheap price only if you can actually provide
certain level of service. 

Seung-woo Nam

This site has been up for about 4 years.  Downtime has been less than
a couple hours.  Crackers have infiltrated the system once, but didn't
get very far.  Why would you worry about uptime so much?  Is 1/2 per
year too much down time?

I will be applying security updates.  

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RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Jon Haworth

Yes, we know, you've told us three times now.


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Sent: 10 April 2001 17:45
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Subject: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___


Hello,

I am offering php hosting with features at a price no one else has, as
far as I know.  I'm not going to create a giant web hosting service.
I'm doing this to pay for my web portal.

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Re: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Chris Anderson

/me counts to himself
Yep 3 times, thats as bad as those people who sign up the lottery ads to
this list
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 Yes, we know, you've told us three times now.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffrey Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 10 April 2001 17:45
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___


 Hello,

 I am offering php hosting with features at a price no one else has, as
 far as I know.  I'm not going to create a giant web hosting service.
 I'm doing this to pay for my web portal.

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RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Krznaric Michael

How come no one is subscribing us to any porn lists?  Joke!!!

Mike

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/me counts to himself
Yep 3 times, thats as bad as those people who sign up the lottery ads to
this list
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To: "'Jeffrey Greer'" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___


 Yes, we know, you've told us three times now.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffrey Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 10 April 2001 17:45
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___


 Hello,

 I am offering php hosting with features at a price no one else has, as
 far as I know.  I'm not going to create a giant web hosting service.
 I'm doing this to pay for my web portal.

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RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Jason Lotito



 Subject: RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server

I wonder if they charge extra for HTML hosting?  =)

But seriously, WoW!  My own dedicated OC3 line!  Man, for only
$8/month..that rocks!

  I am offering php hosting with features at a price no one else has, as
  far as I know.

Nope, your right, some places even offer less!


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RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Kurth Bemis

At 06:15 PM 4/10/2001, Jason Lotito wrote:

no no - its an OC3+ web server.must be an overseas brand..or 
something..i've never heard of it.maybe its an SGI or something 
they have wacky names for their stuff  :-)

no bandwidth sucking sites?  on an OC3...we're talking gigabits per sec 
here.

no pron?  damn!  that puts me out!

what about security?  are they on top of the latest versions and 
patches.i mean after all...it is REDHACK..

spammers are funny people :-)

~kurth



  Subject: RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server

I wonder if they charge extra for HTML hosting?  =)

But seriously, WoW!  My own dedicated OC3 line!  Man, for only
$8/month..that rocks!

   I am offering php hosting with features at a price no one else has, as
   far as I know.

Nope, your right, some places even offer less!


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Re: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Jeffrey Greer

On 10 Apr 2001 12:08:01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kurth Bemis)
wrote:

At 06:15 PM 4/10/2001, Jason Lotito wrote:

no no - its an OC3+ web server.must be an overseas brand..or 
something..i've never heard of it.maybe its an SGI or something 
they have wacky names for their stuff  :-)


It is at least OC3.  I forgot what comes next after OC3.

no bandwidth sucking sites?  on an OC3...we're talking gigabits per sec 
here.


You would max out the 100Mb/s network card first.

no pron?  damn!  that puts me out!


I am a co-administrator.  I don't have a problem with porn sites, but
my partner would object.  But if you're really interested and you pay
us lots of money we can take care of you.

what about security?  are they on top of the latest versions and 
patches.i mean after all...it is REDHACK..


I'm no security expert, but I can apply the most important patches.
Yesterday I added mod_ssl to apache.

spammers are funny people :-)

~kurth


I'm not your average spammer.  I am a computer scientist dedicated to
the struggle against the fascist MS hegemony and all other fascist
corporations who try to control computer technology.  Support my
business and you'll be doing the world a favor. ;^)
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Re: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Kurth Bemis

At 05:55 PM 4/10/2001, Jeffrey Greer wrote:
On 10 Apr 2001 12:08:01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kurth Bemis)
wrote:

 At 06:15 PM 4/10/2001, Jason Lotito wrote:
 
 no no - its an OC3+ web server.must be an overseas brand..or
 something..i've never heard of it.maybe its an SGI or something
 they have wacky names for their stuff  :-)
 

It is at least OC3.  I forgot what comes next after OC3.

OC12 - whose your upstream provider?


 no bandwidth sucking sites?  on an OC3...we're talking gigabits per sec
 here.
 

You would max out the 100Mb/s network card first.

not a fiber gigabit nic card..their had for about 150 USD.plus 
99.9% of all web trafic is burst...not continues transferand if your 
maxing out a 100Mb connection then you aren't running a p3..your running a 
supersparc dual 400 or something :-) can i get one of those for $8.00 a month?


 no pron?  damn!  that puts me out!
 

I am a co-administrator.  I don't have a problem with porn sites, but
my partner would object.  But if you're really interested and you pay
us lots of money we can take care of you.

well...you can pay my sister no money and she'll take care of you :-) J/K 
(she's a bit slutty around the edges)


 what about security?  are they on top of the latest versions and
 patches.i mean after all...it is REDHACK..
 

I'm no security expert, but I can apply the most important patches.
Yesterday I added mod_ssl to apache.

thats not security - thats a requirement.  Patched cron 
latley?  sendmailyou know about 5 hours have gone by since we started 
this thread - i bet there's a security update available. :-)


 spammers are funny people :-)
 
 ~kurth
 

I'm not your average spammer.  I am a computer scientist dedicated to
the struggle against the fascist MS hegemony and all other fascist
corporations who try to control computer technology.  Support my
business and you'll be doing the world a favor. ;^)

right on brutha!

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RE: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Kurth Bemis wrote:

 no pron?  damn!  that puts me out!

isn't a pron a fish?



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Re: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Jeffrey Greer wrote:

 what about security?  are they on top of the latest versions and
 patches.i mean after all...it is REDHACK..
 

 I'm no security expert, but I can apply the most important patches.
 Yesterday I added mod_ssl to apache.

Okay, can you explain how this improve the security of your RedHat server?

 spammers are funny people :-)
 
 ~kurth
 

 I'm not your average spammer.  I am a computer scientist dedicated to
 the struggle against the fascist MS hegemony and all other fascist
 corporations who try to control computer technology.  Support my
 business and you'll be doing the world a favor. ;^)

... and help advocate mail list spam while you are at it ... Woo Hoo ...


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Re: [PHP] __ $8/mo php hosting on 24/7, OC3+ web server ___

2001-04-10 Thread Seung-woo Nam

Jeffrey Greer wrote:
 
 I'm not trying to provide the level of service of a large isp or even
 get 100 customers.  I would just like to pay for my half of the web
 portal.  I thought $8/mo for my service would be a good value for php
 programmers who do not need a high level of security.
 
 Would you say $8/mo is not a good value for the level of service I
 will provide?
 
 Web hosting is not my main business.  I'm a software developer.
 
Well, then what's that all about 'hosting your business' thing on your
website? And I wonder how will you possibly garantee the uptime you talk
about on the site? $8 is a cheap price only if you can actually provide
certain level of service. 

Seung-woo Nam

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