Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-25 Thread Joel Rees
First of all, security.. Windows is full of security holes Did anyone mention the weak password encryption that cnet.com talked about recently? If you get a copy of the password file, you can break any MSW password in a few seconds. Macintosh passwords takes 4000 times as long (or 4000 times as

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-25 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Joel Rees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): First of all, security.. Windows is full of security holes Did anyone mention the weak password encryption that cnet.com talked about recently? If you get a copy of the password file, you can break any MSW password in a few seconds. Macintosh

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Go with the costs. If you have a running system on apache + php + mysql see how much it costs to support that platform. Meaning how high are the costs to maintain it. Inclusive administration and deployment of apps. Then compare the costs

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-24 Thread Jim McNeely
If you have to move to Windows, at least use Apache. I note in my server access logs on my Windows test machine that people are trying to hack in every day and I have a very obscure site just to test my own clients' web apps. It always looks like some kind of super long url trying to do some

RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-24 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jim McNeely mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:57 PM said: If you have to move to Windows, at least use Apache. I note in my server access logs on my Windows test machine that people are trying to hack in every day and I have a very obscure site just to test my own

RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-24 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ever use IIS you can get a tool (free) from MS called URLScan. It's sort of like mod_rewrite in that it rejects all those strange requests before they even get to IIS. Good tool. It's meant to only allow well formed, valid http requests.

RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-24 Thread Roger B.A Klorese
From: Chris Shiflett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:22 PM I thought that's what the Web server was supposed to do. Well, that flies in the face of the filter-pipeline model, doesn't it? One program, one job. The web server should do the right thing in the face

RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread George Pitcher
I know that PHP under windows is intended to be used only as test platform, but this is not enough to convince him. Errr ... says who? I'm out of a job here if this is true as I'm doing quite a bit of PHP development on NT/IIS with both MySQL and MS Access (not my choice, but a clients). I'm

RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Adrian Teasdale
I have to convince one guy to not move our site from Linux box where it runs with Apache/PHP + MySQL to Windows box where it's going to deal with Windows 2k/IIS/PHP(CGI) + MySQL and I need really good arguments, cause it's only way I can convince him (cause his position in company is much

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I have to convince one guy to not move our site from Linux box where it runs with Apache/PHP + MySQL to Windows box where it's going to deal with Windows 2k/IIS/PHP(CGI) + MySQL and I need really good arguments, cause it's only way I

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 3:33:48 PM, you wrote: CZ * Thus wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I have to convince one guy to not move our site from Linux box where it runs with Apache/PHP + MySQL to Windows box where

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Juan Nin
First of all, security.. Windows is full of security holes Second, a Win2k server ussually needs to be rebooted after several days of running A Linux box usually stays months and months running without any problem without having to touch it I got a Linux box running Apache + PHP + MySQL, Postfix

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Juan Nin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, security.. Windows is full of security holes Actually, IIS is much worse than the Windows OS. In fact, the Gartner Group (suits typically respect their opinion) has recommended that it not be used in production

RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Chris W. Parker
Chris Shiflett mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:27 AM said: ...the Gartner Group (suits typically respect their opinion) has recommended that it not be used in production (http://www3.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?doc_cd=101034). Interesting. If you receive pressure

Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Chris W. Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Win2k server and up (advanced server, datacenter server) are meant for high availability, especially datacenter server. True, but what I have a problem with window machines is that they waste precious resources for GUI stuff when most of the

RE: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed

2003-07-23 Thread Chris Shiflett
If you receive pressure to move away from Linux (a server OS) to Windows (a desktop OS) for use as a server References? AFAIK, this is not true. Common sense for the most part. Windows is the most dominant desktop OS by a wide margin, and I'm sure there are statistics that will back this