RE: [PHP] can I compile php source WOT
[snip] No wonder there is so much war. Mostly started by people who know how to be self sufficient. [/snip] So, if everyone was self-sufficient there would be no war? Cool... ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Bruce, that is the typical answer when someone has a God complex and feels is his duty to teach everyone to be like him... Don't worry just feel sorry for him. QT, take a look at these links http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-safeguard-suite.php http://www.sourceguardian.com/ just some of the compilers out there. -pa - Original Message - From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source Bruce Douglas wrote: and this response was helpful to the guy who asked the original question, how i mean, aside from showing that you know how to do a link, what did you show peace... Maybe you should read the link, then _maybe_ you'll understand. Would you feel better if I posted links to the archives and/or to Google to where numerous answers could be found to this question? Or maybe the OP could have just gone to the link I posted and seen those two suggestions in the 'Before You Ask' section. Then again, what was I thinking...people think for themselves? How silly of me. -Original Message- From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 20, 2004 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source QT wrote: hi, is there any way to compile php source to make binary file for protecting source code? best regards Yes. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Bruce Douglas wrote: and this response was helpful to the guy who asked the original question, how i mean, aside from showing that you know how to do a link, what did you show peace... You have shown that you are a newby to mailing lists. -- Raditha Dissanayake. -- http://www.radinks.com/print/card-designer/ | Card Designer Applet http://www.radinks.com/upload/ | Drag and Drop Upload -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Paul Aviles wrote: Bruce, that is the typical answer when someone has a God complex and feels is his duty to teach everyone to be like him... Don't worry just feel sorry for him. Your sympathy is misplaced. -- Raditha Dissanayake. -- http://www.radinks.com/print/card-designer/ | Card Designer Applet http://www.radinks.com/upload/ | Drag and Drop Upload -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Paul Aviles wrote: Bruce, that is the typical answer when someone has a God complex and feels is his duty to teach everyone to be like him... Don't worry just feel sorry for him. QT, take a look at these links http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-safeguard-suite.php http://www.sourceguardian.com/ just some of the compilers out there. -pa snip I'm an atheist...I don't believe in 'God' complexes. So I teach the OP to be self sufficient, and how to get a better response, and you hold his hand, answering the same question that has been answered numerous times over on this list. If you sleep better at night by 'helping' those too lazy to do any work on their own, more power to you...but I definitely don't need sorry from someone who's going to say I have a God complex while passing judgment on me. Flame away...this OT thread will die on my end. -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] can I compile php source OT
[snip] Bruce, that is the typical answer when someone has a God complex and feels is his duty to teach everyone to be like him... Don't worry just feel sorry for him. [/snip] So, if I teach everyone to be like me, which includes the following traits; a. I RTFM 2. I STFW and STFA III. I try to ask questions that will garner more than a yes or no answer when I am looking for more than a yes or no answer. that's a bad thing? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
when someone has a God complex I always thought that was a basic requirement for being a programmer.. *shrug* -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://gdconsultants.com/ http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source OT
the delivery is the problem not the thought process. people are trying to find answers not being lectured and reprimanded. Many people are getting into the field and are new and may not have the wisdom or experience other people have. Think about it How many times have you been dealing with a problem for a long time and the answer was right in front of you? - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Aviles [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] can I compile php source OT [snip] Bruce, that is the typical answer when someone has a God complex and feels is his duty to teach everyone to be like him... Don't worry just feel sorry for him. [/snip] So, if I teach everyone to be like me, which includes the following traits; a. I RTFM 2. I STFW and STFA III. I try to ask questions that will garner more than a yes or no answer when I am looking for more than a yes or no answer. that's a bad thing? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
no sympathy, reality. So, if someone asks how to past the max_upload size limit will you send them to google or maybe point them to your web site how-to? hmmm. be kind, is free, and people will respect you more. - Original Message - From: Raditha Dissanayake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source Paul Aviles wrote: Bruce, that is the typical answer when someone has a God complex and feels is his duty to teach everyone to be like him... Don't worry just feel sorry for him. Your sympathy is misplaced. -- Raditha Dissanayake. -- http://www.radinks.com/print/card-designer/ | Card Designer Applet http://www.radinks.com/upload/ | Drag and Drop Upload -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] can I compile php source OT
[snip] the delivery is the problem not the thought process. people are trying to find answers not being lectured and reprimanded. Many people are getting into the field and are new and may not have the wisdom or experience other people have. Think about it How many times have you been dealing with a problem for a long time and the answer was right in front of you? [/snip] Are you new here? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] can I compile php source
[snip] no sympathy, reality. So, if someone asks how to past the max_upload size limit will you send them to google or maybe point them to your web site how-to? hmmm. be kind, is free, and people will respect you more. [/snip] Nope, because the question requires more than a yes or no answer. I would most likely say something like... RTFM... http://us2.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.php I am not on this list to earn respect. I am here to learn and where possible, teach. And if you want people to be more politically correct so no one gets insulted or gets their feelings hurt you have come to the wrong place. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
some people will never get it. - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Aviles [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] can I compile php source [snip] no sympathy, reality. So, if someone asks how to past the max_upload size limit will you send them to google or maybe point them to your web site how-to? hmmm. be kind, is free, and people will respect you more. [/snip] Nope, because the question requires more than a yes or no answer. I would most likely say something like... RTFM... http://us2.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.php I am not on this list to earn respect. I am here to learn and where possible, teach. And if you want people to be more politically correct so no one gets insulted or gets their feelings hurt you have come to the wrong place. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Paul Aviles wrote: some people will never get it. Yeah, I said I wasn't going to reply to this thread, but since you're not going to let it die... You said that I have a 'God' complex, yet you sit here and try to impose your political correctness on us; sitting up there on your high and mighty cloud, telling us how we're doing it wrong. And when long time, respected posters on this list don't agree with you, you fling your nose in the air, and claim that 'some people will never get it', in your holiest of holier than thou voices. WTF makes you think that *you* 'get it'? Don't like the way things work around here? Hit the unsubscribe button, but please stop crying about how wrong we are. Welcome to /dev/null -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
after looking at the msgs on this list for this thread... i'm curious. if you see an email that you don't want to respond to, why can't you simply choose not to respond to it, and ignore the msg. peace.. -Original Message- From: Paul Aviles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 21, 2004 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source some people will never get it. - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Aviles [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] can I compile php source [snip] no sympathy, reality. So, if someone asks how to past the max_upload size limit will you send them to google or maybe point them to your web site how-to? hmmm. be kind, is free, and people will respect you more. [/snip] Nope, because the question requires more than a yes or no answer. I would most likely say something like... RTFM... http://us2.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.php I am not on this list to earn respect. I am here to learn and where possible, teach. And if you want people to be more politically correct so no one gets insulted or gets their feelings hurt you have come to the wrong place. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] can I compile php source OT
[snip] some people will never get it. [/snip] Can we vote someone off of the island? He's a little too grouchy for being this close to Christmas. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
I promised myself that I wouldn't get in the middle of any flame wars but I just had to say something about my experience. The day I stopped looking for free handouts and became self-sufficient in my ability to find the answers myself was the day someone told me to RTFM a few years ago. It was a friend of mine and it was a little hurtful. But he was right! The answer was right in the man page. Then I felt stupid for asking. Since then my skills at troubleshooting went through the roof. You can literally train yourself to be a walking encyclopedia not by knowing the answer but by knowing how to find the answer without anyones help. Sometimes it takes a mean push to get someone on the right track. You might not like it but you can't deny the results it can bring. -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org some people will never get it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
The day I stopped looking for free handouts and became self-sufficient in my ability to find the answers myself was the day someone told me to RTFM a few years ago. It was a friend of mine and it was a little hurtful. But he was right! The answer was right in the man page. Then I felt stupid for asking. Since then my skills at troubleshooting went through the roof. You can literally train yourself to be a walking encyclopedia not by knowing the answer but by knowing how to find the answer without anyones help. Sometimes it takes a mean push to get someone on the right track. You might not like it but you can't deny the results it can bring. Agreed 100%. Heck I'm an accountant, not even a computer programmer, and even I can help people out now because of a RTFM comment I received a long time ago ;) People need to learn how to help themselves. When it's clear that a person just doesn't understand some concept yet has put effort into understanding their problem then I push them to the area of the manual that will explain it to them. The manual is there for a very good reason and it is an excellent reference tool. Teach a man to fish... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 01:00, Bruce Douglas wrote: after looking at the msgs on this list for this thread... i'm curious. if you see an email that you don't want to respond to, why can't you simply choose not to respond to it, and ignore the msg. It's probably because they *do* want to respond? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* In which level of metalanguage are you now speaking? */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Guys, this is trivial. It takes the same effort to provide the answer to whoever this guy was, than to lecture him on how to think. this question has been answered before, use google and do a search for and follow this link before posting as it may help you in the future I am not trying to police anything and I am not for anyone to imitate or follow as example, but I think there are better ways to help. No need to reply, I am not trying to pick a fight nor insult anyone. - Original Message - From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source Paul Aviles wrote: some people will never get it. Yeah, I said I wasn't going to reply to this thread, but since you're not going to let it die... You said that I have a 'God' complex, yet you sit here and try to impose your political correctness on us; sitting up there on your high and mighty cloud, telling us how we're doing it wrong. And when long time, respected posters on this list don't agree with you, you fling your nose in the air, and claim that 'some people will never get it', in your holiest of holier than thou voices. WTF makes you think that *you* 'get it'? Don't like the way things work around here? Hit the unsubscribe button, but please stop crying about how wrong we are. Welcome to /dev/null -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source OT
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 23:34, Jay Blanchard wrote: It seems either Paul responded directly (and only) to Jay or I missed this message (by Paul): the delivery is the problem not the thought process. people are trying to find answers not being lectured and reprimanded. Many people are getting into the field and are new and may not have the wisdom or experience other people have. Think about it How many times have you been dealing with a problem for a long time and the answer was right in front of you? Anyway, google compile php source, is it that hard? What wisdom does it require? What experience does it need? Don't tell me the OP hasn't heard of Google? Think about it ... -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Only fools leave witnesses. -- HASIMIR FENRING */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
While Yes may be a technically accurate answer to a question like Can I ... or Can anyone ..., a couple of points must be acknowledged: 1) Such an answer doesn't help the original poster. Period. And the purpose of a resource like this is to help, right? Even a RTFM or search Google at least gives the user __something__ to work with (and the lesson there being that if they read the manual or search Google, they'll quickly find answers). If your argument for answering Yes is that you're teaching the user to ask questions the smart way, then why not answer their intended question AND refer them to the smart questions page? Do you honestly think people are learning __anything__ when you reply with a Yes? Moreover... 2) It's commonplace in human discourse to attempt to address the *intent* of a person's question rather than the literal question itself. If you were helping a friend re-shingle a roof and they said Can you hand me that hammer?, hopefully you would actually hand them the hammer, not say Yes. They are many colloquialisms in languages--like when someone says What's up?--and it's just obstinate not to recognize them as such and respond accordingly. Finally, if you don't agree that Yes isn't helpful and that it's an inappropriate answer anyway, how about this: such emails are a waste of resources. It's a waste of the time (.1 nanoseconds or whatever) it took you to write. It's a waste of bandwidth (at a few bits a pop). It's a waste of everyone's time in reading and deleting such emails (another second). And it tends to start a sequence of even longer, off topic threads such as this one. So, seriously, if you don't feel like helping or you don't believe that a message should be posted here because it's off topic or you don't believe that a question was phrased properly, wouldn't it be better for everyone if you just didn't respond? It'd certainly be easier. Oy vay! Larry -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] can I compile php source OT
Wow I just wasted 10 minutes of my day reading half these post. This is one long thread. And man is it hard to follow. Dan. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 01:37, Paul Aviles wrote: Guys, this is trivial. It takes the same effort to provide the answer to whoever this guy was, than to lecture him on how to think. Teach a person to fish ... -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* It is very difficult to prophesy, especially when it pertains to the future. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Matthew Sims wrote: I promised myself that I wouldn't get in the middle of any flame wars but I just had to say something about my experience. The day I stopped looking for free handouts and became self-sufficient in my ability to find the answers myself was the day someone told me to RTFM a few years ago. It was a friend of mine and it was a little hurtful. But he was right! The answer was right in the man page. Then I felt stupid for asking. Since then my skills at troubleshooting went through the roof. You can literally train yourself to be a walking encyclopedia not by knowing the answer but by knowing how to find the answer without anyones help. Sometimes it takes a mean push to get someone on the right track. You might not like it but you can't deny the results it can bring. Your skills grow even more when you start answering questions you understand, or parroting the answers to questions you didn't understand, but recognize. :-) Plus you sort of get famous for it, sometimes. :-) :-) :-) On the downside, you can get flamed for being mean and unhelpful. I had a guy tell me how cruel I was for helping him with the ORACLE_SID/ORACLE_HOME problem, but not solving his other Oracle database problems. I'd never even *used* Oracle, but knew the answer after seeing it on this list, every week for about 2 years running. :-) Oh well. Win some, lose some. If somebody thinks I'm being too nice or answering many FAQs, give me grief about it OFF-LIST please! -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Larry E. Ullman wrote: While Yes may be a technically accurate answer to a question like Can I ... or Can anyone ..., a couple of points must be acknowledged: 1) Such an answer doesn't help the original poster. Period. And the purpose of a resource like this is to help, right? Even a RTFM or search Google at least gives the user __something__ to work with (and the lesson there being that if they read the manual or search Google, they'll quickly find answers). If your argument for answering Yes is that you're teaching the user to ask questions the smart way, then why not answer their intended question AND refer them to the smart questions page? Do you honestly think people are learning __anything__ when you reply with a Yes? Moreover... I guess you didn't read the 'smart questions page'. It explains in great detail why the user was directed there. It explains what the user should do _before_ posting to a mailing list. It gives the user more than the little STFW 'something'. 2) It's commonplace in human discourse to attempt to address the *intent* of a person's question rather than the literal question itself. If you were helping a friend re-shingle a roof and they said Can you hand me that hammer?, hopefully you would actually hand them the hammer, not say Yes. They are many colloquialisms in languages--like when someone says What's up?--and it's just obstinate not to recognize them as such and respond accordingly. Finally, if you don't agree that Yes isn't helpful and that it's an inappropriate answer anyway, how about this: such emails are a waste of resources. It's a waste of the time (.1 nanoseconds or whatever) it took you to write. It's a waste of bandwidth (at a few bits a pop). It's a waste of everyone's time in reading and deleting such emails (another second). And it tends to start a sequence of even longer, off topic threads such as this one. Kind of like it's a waste of time to psycho analyze members of php mailing list...not that it's off topic or anything. So, seriously, if you don't feel like helping or you don't believe that a message should be posted here because it's off topic or you don't believe that a question was phrased properly, wouldn't it be better for everyone if you just didn't respond? It'd certainly be easier. Kind of like it would be better if others didn't fan the flames with posts on how the bad people shouldn't be mean. Oy vay! Indeed. Sorry Jay, guess I've lost Christmas points. ;) -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
So, seriously, if you don't feel like helping or you don't believe that a message should be posted here because it's off topic or you don't believe that a question was phrased properly, wouldn't it be better for everyone if you just didn't respond? It'd certainly be easier. I can agree with you up until here. If someone is consistently posting off-topic then it would be in the group's interest to keep them from posting those things, e.g. $$$ MAKE MONEY FAST!!! $$$ or Cheep \/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 01:37, Paul Aviles wrote: Guys, this is trivial. It takes the same effort to provide the answer to whoever this guy was, than to lecture him on how to think. Teach a person to fish ... -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz You know, I bet that man is getting sick of eating fish all the time. Teach a man to shoot a cow... -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Guys, this is trivial. It takes the same effort to provide the answer to whoever this guy was, than to lecture him on how to think. Teach a person to fish ... That's a good and true adage and certainly a philosophy to be put forth by this list. But, the question is, does an answer of Yes teach a person anything? I truly suspect not. Whereas Yes, here's how, and by the way you should read this page about how to ask smart questions. teaches a person quite a bit. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re: [PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
From: Larry E. Ullman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you honestly think people are learning __anything__ when you reply with a Yes? Yes. ---John Holmes... UCCASS - PHP Survey System http://www.bigredspark.com/survey.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 04:51, Jason Barnett wrote: So, seriously, if you don't feel like helping or you don't believe that a message should be posted here because it's off topic or you don't believe that a question was phrased properly, wouldn't it be better for everyone if you just didn't respond? It'd certainly be easier. I can agree with you up until here. Ditto ... If someone is consistently posting off-topic then it would be in the group's interest to keep them from posting those things, e.g. $$$ MAKE MONEY FAST!!! $$$ or Cheep \/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... but not for this reason. You're describing spam. One should never respond to spam. The originator of the spam is not going to be reading your response. The real reason is that, for example, some person posted an OT question, if everyone followed the above advice and just ignored that post, the most likely result would be that the same OT question would get reposted, again, and again, until someone blinks and tells that person that their post was OT and was therefore ignored. Now I know I would rather be told if I was doing something wrong (and hopefully learn from that) rather than to be sent to Coventry. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Worlds are conquered, galaxies destroyed -- but a woman is always a woman. -- Kirk, The Conscience of the King, stardate 2818.9 */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 05:35, Matthew Sims wrote: You know, I bet that man is getting sick of eating fish all the time. You don't have to fish for fish, you can fish for old boots if you want a change in diet :-) Teach a man to shoot a cow... What and get mad cows disease? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Most people will listen to your unreasonable demands, if you'll consider their unacceptable offer. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] can I compile php source
[quote] On Wednesday 22 December 2004 01:37, Paul Aviles wrote: Guys, this is trivial. It takes the same effort to provide the answer to whoever this guy was, than to lecture him on how to think. Teach a person to fish ... -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz You know, I bet that man is getting sick of eating fish all the time. Teach a man to shoot a cow... [/quote] Not to start flame war about meat, but: Do people still eat beef? Yuk. Teach a man to pick soy beans... :) -- much healthier alternative... (Da** I told myself not to post on this thread, thanks Matthew ;) ) Regards, Justin -Original Message- From: Matthew Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source On Wednesday 22 December 2004 01:37, Paul Aviles wrote: Guys, this is trivial. It takes the same effort to provide the answer to whoever this guy was, than to lecture him on how to think. Teach a person to fish ... -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz You know, I bet that man is getting sick of eating fish all the time. Teach a man to shoot a cow... -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
now guys/ladies.. this was funny! and can we move on... ! -Original Message- From: Matthew Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 21, 2004 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source On Wednesday 22 December 2004 01:37, Paul Aviles wrote: Guys, this is trivial. It takes the same effort to provide the answer to whoever this guy was, than to lecture him on how to think. Teach a person to fish ... -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz You know, I bet that man is getting sick of eating fish all the time. Teach a man to shoot a cow... -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Danny Brow wrote: Wow I just wasted 10 minutes of my day reading half these post. This is one long thread. And man is it hard to follow. exactly why we don't want people posting off topic stuff here. Dan. -- Raditha Dissanayake. -- http://www.radinks.com/print/card-designer/ | Card Designer Applet http://www.radinks.com/upload/ | Drag and Drop Upload -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
I can't believe you can spend so much energy on this flame/agrovated response crap when a small amount of that energy would have simply answered this guys question. No wonder there is so much war. Mostly started by people who know how to be self sufficient. Don't worry. In 100 years we will all be dead, maybe the next generation will actually learn something John. Darren Bruce Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and this response was helpful to the guy who asked the original question, how i mean, aside from showing that you know how to do a link, what did you show peace... -Original Message- From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 20, 2004 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source QT wrote: hi, is there any way to compile php source to make binary file for protecting source code? best regards Yes. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] OT Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
John Holmes wrote: From: Larry E. Ullman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you honestly think people are learning __anything__ when you reply with a Yes? Yes. You used to be so nice and polite. ;) -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Justin Palmer wrote: snip Not to start flame war about meat, but: Do people still eat beef? Yuk. Teach a man to pick soy beans... :) -- much healthier alternative... (Da** I told myself not to post on this thread, thanks Matthew ;) ) Those poor defenseless soy beans. ;) -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
QT wrote: hi, is there any way to compile php source to make binary file for protecting source code? best regards Yes. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Yes. There are a number of free php complier on web too. Please look at sf.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
and this response was helpful to the guy who asked the original question, how i mean, aside from showing that you know how to do a link, what did you show peace... -Original Message- From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 20, 2004 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source QT wrote: hi, is there any way to compile php source to make binary file for protecting source code? best regards Yes. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] can I compile php source
Bruce Douglas wrote: and this response was helpful to the guy who asked the original question, how i mean, aside from showing that you know how to do a link, what did you show peace... Maybe you should read the link, then _maybe_ you'll understand. Would you feel better if I posted links to the archives and/or to Google to where numerous answers could be found to this question? Or maybe the OP could have just gone to the link I posted and seen those two suggestions in the 'Before You Ask' section. Then again, what was I thinking...people think for themselves? How silly of me. -Original Message- From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 20, 2004 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] can I compile php source QT wrote: hi, is there any way to compile php source to make binary file for protecting source code? best regards Yes. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
