php-general Digest 1 Feb 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Issue 486 Topics (messages 37568 through 37625): Re: Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms 37568 by: Josh G 37569 by: Nuno Silva 37573 by: [ rswfire ] 37574 by: Josh G 37575 by: Jonathan Sharp 37617 by: Tim Ward 37619 by: Tim Ward Why sprintf for query? 37570 by: Karl J. Stubsjoen 37613 by: Ben Peter passing data between pages? 37571 by: Britton 37572 by: Josh G Thankz 37576 by: [ rswfire ] Re: Odbc Vs Oracle 37577 by: Nold, Mark Re: Pricing for PHP programming??? 37578 by: Michael Kimsal 37580 by: Philip Olson 37582 by: Jonathan Sharp 37583 by: Josh G 37584 by: Jason Murray 37585 by: Philip Olson 37586 by: Jonathan Sharp 37587 by: [ rswfire ] 37588 by: Jonathan Sharp 37589 by: scott.gerhardt-it.com 37614 by: mwaples.waples.net 37621 by: Robin Vickery 37623 by: Josh G Formatting/Financial 37579 by: [ rswfire ] 37581 by: Josh G 37607 by: Andrew Golovin PHP4 Ultradev Extension availble! 37590 by: Dan Radigan Php database 37591 by: Vinicius Garcia 37604 by: Michael Hall new mail() function 37592 by: Police Trainee Is there a 'redo' loop control function? 37593 by: John Luxford reload help!!! 37594 by: Wen Ni Leong Strange Parser error 37595 by: Phil Daintree 37611 by: Ben Peter one quick question: how do I assign atring value into variable? 37596 by: Jacky.lilst 37606 by: David Robley Re: E-mail valid 37597 by: Sean Cazzell 37598 by: Chris Aitken 37600 by: Josh G Directory Listing with PHP 37599 by: Chris Aitken 37602 by: Andrew Braund Re: connecting to AS400 DB2 37601 by: szii.sziisoft.com 404 error checker 37603 by: Institute for Social Ecology 37605 by: Jason Murray Re: New User of PHP 37608 by: Chris Choy Re: test ... please ignore ... 37609 by: PHPBeginner.com 37615 by: Navid 37616 by: PHPBeginner.com Re-Creation of Objects in sessions 37610 by: Thomas Stinner Win2K/PHP4.0.4pl1 - include_path mess (won't include from the current directory) 37612 by: PHPBeginner.com List archives with PHP frontend 37618 by: Ben Peter upload_max_filesize 37620 by: David Smith 37622 by: David Smith Image 37624 by: David Tandberg-Johansen INAPPROPRIATE IOCTL ERROR 37625 by: Kif Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not *sure* i understand the problem, but this may be the solution: $foo = "hello"; $bar = "foo"; $foobar = $$bar; $foobar now contains "hello". Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "[ rswfire ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: [PHP] Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms > I have a problem I'm not sure how to fix. > > PART I > > I have a form on a page that creates its variables dynamically. Here's an > example: > > mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); > while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) > { > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > > } > > PART II > > I need to make reference to these dynamically created variables. How do I > do this? This does not work, obviously: > > $chk_.$row["checkboxtype"] > > Thanks in advance... > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
[ rswfire ] wrote: > I have a problem I'm not sure how to fix. > > PART I > > I have a form on a page that creates its variables dynamically. > Here's an example: > > mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); > while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) > { > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > > } > > PART II > > I need to make reference to these dynamically created variables. How > do I do this? This does not work, obviously: > > $chk_.$row["checkboxtype"] > > Thanks in advance... > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > $temp = "chk_$row"; echo $$temp["checkboxtype"]; the trick is $$var_name ;) have fun, Nuno
Thanks for your response, but that's not my problem. I'll explain further... I have a table with the following fields in a row: aaa bbb ccc ddd eee I have a page with a form: <FORM POST> mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) { echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; } This will create several checkboxes with the following names: chk_aaa chk_bbb chk_ccc chk_ddd chk_eee ON THE NEXT PAGE, AFTER THE SUBMIT BUTTON IS CLICKED, THESE VARIABLES WILL EXIST, but I cannot refer to them like this: $chk_$row["field"] How can I refer to them??? They can change based on the field data, so they cannot be considered static variables. Not *sure* i understand the problem, but this may be the solution: $foo = "hello"; $bar = "foo"; $foobar = $$bar; $foobar now contains "hello". Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "[ rswfire ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: [PHP] Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms >I have a problem I'm not sure how to fix. > >PART I > >I have a form on a page that creates its variables dynamically. Here's an >example: > >mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); >while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) >{ > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > >} > >PART II > >I need to make reference to these dynamically created variables. How do I >do this? This does not work, obviously: > >$chk_.$row["checkboxtype"] > >Thanks in advance... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
It is what you're looking for, you just need to think it through a little. instead of > $chk_$row["field"] try $foo = "chk_" . $row["field"]; $bar = $$foo; or if you're trying to do something else, you may need $foo = "chk_" . $row; $bar = ($$foo)["field"]; as I'm not sure which order of execution you want to happen on that line, since it's not valid :) Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "[ rswfire ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms > Thanks for your response, but that's not my problem. I'll explain > further... > > I have a table with the following fields in a row: > > aaa > bbb > ccc > ddd > eee > > I have a page with a form: > > <FORM POST> > mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); > while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) > { > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > > } > > This will create several checkboxes with the following names: > > chk_aaa > chk_bbb > chk_ccc > chk_ddd > chk_eee > > ON THE NEXT PAGE, AFTER THE SUBMIT BUTTON IS CLICKED, THESE VARIABLES WILL > EXIST, but I cannot refer to them like this: > > $chk_$row["field"] > > How can I refer to them??? They can change based on the field data, so they > cannot be considered static variables. > > > > > > > Not *sure* i understand the problem, but this may be the solution: > > $foo = "hello"; > $bar = "foo"; > $foobar = $$bar; > > $foobar now contains "hello". > > Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ > > I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to > hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "[ rswfire ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:28 AM > Subject: [PHP] Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms > > > >I have a problem I'm not sure how to fix. > > > >PART I > > > >I have a form on a page that creates its variables dynamically. Here's an > >example: > > > >mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); > >while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) > >{ > > > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > > > >} > > > >PART II > > > >I need to make reference to these dynamically created variables. How do I > >do this? This does not work, obviously: > > > >$chk_.$row["checkboxtype"] > > > >Thanks in advance... > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
have you thought about creating an array of the variables? "chk[$row]" and then you'd read 'em back like chk["aaa"] or chk["bbb"] or you could loop through the array with a each statement... but for variable variables...try ${"chk_".$row}["field"] which should work... -Jonathan Sharp Director of Technology - Imprev Inc. Renwick Development Group - Flyerware http://www.flyerware.com/ Phone: (425)688-9200 Cell: (425)766-1398 EPage: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [ rswfire ] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms Thanks for your response, but that's not my problem. I'll explain further... I have a table with the following fields in a row: aaa bbb ccc ddd eee I have a page with a form: <FORM POST> mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) { echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; } This will create several checkboxes with the following names: chk_aaa chk_bbb chk_ccc chk_ddd chk_eee ON THE NEXT PAGE, AFTER THE SUBMIT BUTTON IS CLICKED, THESE VARIABLES WILL EXIST, but I cannot refer to them like this: $chk_$row["field"] How can I refer to them??? They can change based on the field data, so they cannot be considered static variables. Not *sure* i understand the problem, but this may be the solution: $foo = "hello"; $bar = "foo"; $foobar = $$bar; $foobar now contains "hello". Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "[ rswfire ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: [PHP] Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms >I have a problem I'm not sure how to fix. > >PART I > >I have a form on a page that creates its variables dynamically. Here's an >example: > >mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); >while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) >{ > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > >} > >PART II > >I need to make reference to these dynamically created variables. How do I >do this? This does not work, obviously: > >$chk_.$row["checkboxtype"] > >Thanks in advance... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
this works, you should be able to do something similar assigning $row["checkboxtype"] as the array key. That way you don't need to know what it's called just the array it is an element of. <?php if (isset($formvars)) { foreach ($formvars as $fvTitle => $fvValue) echo("$fvTitle:$fvValue<br>"); }; ?> <form action="#" method="post"> <?php $gotvars[fred] = "fred value"; $gotvars[bill] = "billvalue"; foreach ($gotvars as $gvTitle => $gvValue) echo("$gvTitle<input type=text name=formvars[$gvTitle] size=40 maxlength=80 value='" . $gvValue . "'><br>"); ?> <input type="submit" value="GO"> </form> Tim Ward Senior Systems Engineer Please refer to the following disclaimer in respect of this message: http://www.stivesdirect.com/e-mail-disclaimer.html > -----Original Message----- > From: [ rswfire ] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 01 February 2001 00:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms > > > I have a problem I'm not sure how to fix. > > PART I > > I have a form on a page that creates its variables > dynamically. Here's an > example: > > mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); > while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) > { > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > > } > > PART II > > I need to make reference to these dynamically created > variables. How do I > do this? This does not work, obviously: > > $chk_.$row["checkboxtype"] > > Thanks in advance... > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >
this works, you should be able to do something similar assigning $row["checkboxtype"] as the array key. That way you don't need to know what it's called just the array it is an element of. (I thinmk this bounced first time) <?php if (isset($formvars)) { foreach ($formvars as $fvTitle => $fvValue) echo("$fvTitle:$fvValue<br>"); }; ?> <form action="#" method="post"> <?php $gotvars[fred] = "fred value"; $gotvars[bill] = "billvalue"; foreach ($gotvars as $gvTitle => $gvValue) echo("$gvTitle<input type=text name=formvars[$gvTitle] size=40 maxlength=80 value='" . $gvValue . "'><br>"); ?> <input type="submit" value="GO"> </form> Tim Ward Senior Systems Engineer Please refer to the following disclaimer in respect of this message: http://www.stivesdirect.com/e-mail-disclaimer.html > -----Original Message----- > From: [ rswfire ] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 01 February 2001 00:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Dynamic Variable Creation from Forms > > > I have a problem I'm not sure how to fix. > > PART I > > I have a form on a page that creates its variables > dynamically. Here's an > example: > > mysql_db_query($db, "SELECT * FROM table"); > while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) > { > > echo "<INPUT TYPE='CHECKBOX' NAME='chk_".$row["checkboxtype"]."'>"; > > } > > PART II > > I need to make reference to these dynamically created > variables. How do I > do this? This does not work, obviously: > > $chk_.$row["checkboxtype"] > > Thanks in advance... > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >
Sprintf formats strings and numbers to a specific format (correct?) then why is this $q = SPRINTF("SELECT prodnum, childdesc FROM prodaval"); like that? Why SPRINTF in this case? We are calling a MySQL table, is it specific to calling a MySQL table or is this required for all calls to a DB... or (simply) could it be written like this $q = "SELECT prodnum, childdesc FROM prodaval"; Thanks!
Karl, where is the first line from? it's pretty useless overhead. $q = 'SELECT prodnum, childdesc FROM prodaval' would be second fastest (the string is now parsed as it is in single quotes). fastest would be to directly feed the statement to the query function (e.g. mysql_query) instead of storing it in a variable before. Cheers, Ben "Karl J. Stubsjoen" wrote: > > Sprintf formats strings and numbers to a specific format (correct?) then why > is this > > $q = SPRINTF("SELECT prodnum, childdesc FROM prodaval"); > > like that? Why SPRINTF in this case? We are calling a MySQL table, is it > specific to calling a MySQL table or is this required for all calls to a > DB... or (simply) could it be written like this > > $q = "SELECT prodnum, childdesc FROM prodaval"; > > Thanks! > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a way to pass things to a php page you are referring to by href (without forms or anythin), and if so could someone point me to the documentation describing how? Thanks, Britton
easy - http://www.yourserver.com/path/to/yourfile.php?v1=foo&v2=bar will create two variables, $v1 and $v2, with the values of "foo" and "bar" respectively. note that the first variable is preceeded with a ?, all others afterwards with an &. Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Britton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: [PHP] passing data between pages? > > Is there a way to pass things to a php page you are referring to by href > (without forms or anythin), and if so could someone point me to the > documentation describing how? > > Thanks, > Britton > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
The $$ thing works. You're right, I wasn't thinking it through... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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I get flamed for this sometimes, but we don't normally charge an hourly rate for a project. After-project maintenance, yes, but for an initial project we normally quote a fixed price. The price will cover a minimal hourly rate to cover our costs, but we don't normally cap it on the top by saying "that's 200 hours at $125/hour so it's $25,000" (or whatever it would be). Rather, we try to gain as much info as we can about the project and it's relative value to the business. If someone is having us build a system that will net them a direct cost reduction of $2 million dollars per year, we will take that into consideration. Some people think that's gouging, but we don't see it like that. On the flip side of that, we've taken on projects at lower than normal rates because the job was cool, but the value to the business just wouldn't be all that much. No sense in charging someone $10,000 for an inventory system when they only do $20k/year in sales, for example. Shane McBride wrote: > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make for a good thread. :) > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just been given a >project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I normally do work for. So I am >VERY confused.concerned about how to price it. Most of my other PHP projects have >been done for small single owners businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn it, I am >stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge them a REAL price >because I didn't know how to do it with PHP. So, I of course didn't charge the client >for my learning curve. > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is creating a >web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll need to create the database tables, >etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic since the data content depends >largely on the previous choices of the end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. >5-6 pages of html and PHP. > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the contributors to this list >and their opinions. > > TIA, > Shane
Hey Shane, This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD): $60/hr $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings) General discounts for features such as : fun,true non-profit,intelligent employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale depending on their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time). Also, barter is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one day this will go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time estimates and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff." Regards, Philip Olson http://www.cornado.com/ > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote: > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make for a good > thread. :) > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about how to price > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small single owners > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with PHP. So, I of > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve. > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll need to create > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic > since the data content depends largely on the previous choices of the > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html and > PHP. > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the contributors > to this list and their opinions. > > TIA, > Shane
I find this an interesting topic... One thing that we've found when looking for additional PHP programmers to add is that since PHP has exploded there are a lot of people out there coding in PHP that don't have a background in programming or some of the design considerations. We've looked at various places from techies.com to guru.com and haven't found that many PHP gurus out there. So in terms of skill level, what do you all see the going rate? I know I'm currently underpaid at $25/hour and I do ALL the PHP programming, project management, engineering, database theory etc...oh...and did I mention I do all the network support too? (I'm taking my CCNA in June...) so yeah...we're a starup what did you expect?! =) Comments? Disclaimer: I don't mean to offend anyone out there who codes in PHP. But from the experience that I've had trying to find someone who can really code clean, effecient stuff that plugs into the whole picture has been virtually non-existent...(if you do, please call! We have a few openings!) Thanks, -Jonathan Sharp Director of Technology - Imprev Inc. Renwick Development Group - Flyerware http://www.flyerware.com/ Phone: (425)688-9200 Cell: (425)766-1398 -----Original Message----- From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: Shane McBride Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? Hey Shane, This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD): $60/hr $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings) General discounts for features such as : fun,true non-profit,intelligent employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale depending on their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time). Also, barter is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one day this will go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time estimates and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff." Regards, Philip Olson http://www.cornado.com/ > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote: > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make for a good > thread. :) > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about how to price > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small single owners > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with PHP. So, I of > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve. > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll need to create > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic > since the data content depends largely on the previous choices of the > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html and > PHP. > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the contributors > to this list and their opinions. > > TIA, > Shane -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a good programmer, and a good graphic designer. I don't really know any, apart from myself, and I've been just shy of being called a lying scumbag by a few HR companies over the years when they look at my resume ;-) This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80 an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I make here, which is more like US$20/hr Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > I find this an interesting topic... > > One thing that we've found when looking for additional PHP programmers to > add is that since PHP has exploded there are a lot of people out there > coding in PHP that don't have a background in programming or some of the > design considerations. We've looked at various places from techies.com to > guru.com and haven't found that many PHP gurus out there. So in terms of > skill level, what do you all see the going rate? I know I'm currently > underpaid at $25/hour and I do ALL the PHP programming, project management, > engineering, database theory etc...oh...and did I mention I do all the > network support too? (I'm taking my CCNA in June...) so yeah...we're a > starup what did you expect?! =) > > Comments? > > Disclaimer: I don't mean to offend anyone out there who codes in PHP. But > from the experience that I've had trying to find someone who can really code > clean, effecient stuff that plugs into the whole picture has been virtually > non-existent...(if you do, please call! We have a few openings!) > > Thanks, > -Jonathan Sharp > > Director of Technology - Imprev Inc. > Renwick Development Group - Flyerware > http://www.flyerware.com/ > Phone: (425)688-9200 > Cell: (425)766-1398 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:40 PM > To: Shane McBride > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > Hey Shane, > > This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD): > > $60/hr > $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings) > > General discounts for features such as : fun,true non-profit,intelligent > employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale depending on > their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time). Also, barter > is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one day this will > go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time estimates > and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff." > > Regards, > > Philip Olson > http://www.cornado.com/ > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote: > > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make for a good > > thread. :) > > > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just > > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I > > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about how to price > > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small single owners > > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn > > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge > > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with PHP. So, I of > > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve. > > > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is > > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll need to create > > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic > > since the data content depends largely on the previous choices of the > > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html and > > PHP. > > > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the contributors > > to this list and their opinions. > > > > TIA, > > Shane > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80 > an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I > make here, which is more like US$20/hr Remember though, if you're on a salary you'll get less an hour for ANYTHING (not just PHP) but it'll at least be consistent... Jason
One thing to keep in mind is we're mixing up contract jobs and "real" jobs with contract jobs usually being much higher rates. Not sure on any specifics though but real jobs are pretty secure, eight hours a day ... so it's a tradeoff. Most (if not all) quotes thus far are in regard to contract jobs. Philip On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Josh G wrote: > I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a > good programmer, and a good graphic designer. I don't really know > any, apart from myself, and I've been just shy of being called a lying > scumbag by a few HR companies over the years when they look at > my resume ;-) > > This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80 > an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I > make here, which is more like US$20/hr > > Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ > > I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to > hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:49 PM > Subject: RE: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > I find this an interesting topic... > > > > One thing that we've found when looking for additional PHP programmers to > > add is that since PHP has exploded there are a lot of people out there > > coding in PHP that don't have a background in programming or some of the > > design considerations. We've looked at various places from techies.com to > > guru.com and haven't found that many PHP gurus out there. So in terms of > > skill level, what do you all see the going rate? I know I'm currently > > underpaid at $25/hour and I do ALL the PHP programming, project > management, > > engineering, database theory etc...oh...and did I mention I do all the > > network support too? (I'm taking my CCNA in June...) so yeah...we're a > > starup what did you expect?! =) > > > > Comments? > > > > Disclaimer: I don't mean to offend anyone out there who codes in PHP. But > > from the experience that I've had trying to find someone who can really > code > > clean, effecient stuff that plugs into the whole picture has been > virtually > > non-existent...(if you do, please call! We have a few openings!) > > > > Thanks, > > -Jonathan Sharp > > > > Director of Technology - Imprev Inc. > > Renwick Development Group - Flyerware > > http://www.flyerware.com/ > > Phone: (425)688-9200 > > Cell: (425)766-1398 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:40 PM > > To: Shane McBride > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > > > > > Hey Shane, > > > > This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD): > > > > $60/hr > > $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings) > > > > General discounts for features such as : fun,true non-profit,intelligent > > employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale depending on > > their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time). Also, barter > > is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one day this will > > go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time estimates > > and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff." > > > > Regards, > > > > Philip Olson > > http://www.cornado.com/ > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote: > > > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make for a good > > > thread. :) > > > > > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just > > > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I > > > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about how to price > > > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small single owners > > > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > > > > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn > > > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge > > > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with PHP. So, I of > > > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve. > > > > > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is > > > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll need to create > > > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic > > > since the data content depends largely on the previous choices of the > > > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html and > > > PHP. > > > > > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the contributors > > > to this list and their opinions. > > > > > > TIA, > > > Shane > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Yeah, I'm consulting though...but yes there are some other options...where does it say $80/hour in the US?! -Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:05 PM > To: Josh G > Cc: PHP User Group > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > One thing to keep in mind is we're mixing up contract jobs and "real" jobs > with contract jobs usually being much higher rates. Not sure on any > specifics though but real jobs are pretty secure, eight hours a day ... so > it's a tradeoff. Most (if not all) quotes thus far are in regard to > contract jobs. > > Philip > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Josh G wrote: > > > I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a > > good programmer, and a good graphic designer. I don't really know > > any, apart from myself, and I've been just shy of being called a lying > > scumbag by a few HR companies over the years when they look at > > my resume ;-) > > > > This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80 > > an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I > > make here, which is more like US$20/hr > > > > Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ > > > > I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to > > hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jonathan Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:49 PM > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > > > > I find this an interesting topic... > > > > > > One thing that we've found when looking for additional PHP > programmers to > > > add is that since PHP has exploded there are a lot of people out there > > > coding in PHP that don't have a background in programming or > some of the > > > design considerations. We've looked at various places from > techies.com to > > > guru.com and haven't found that many PHP gurus out there. So > in terms of > > > skill level, what do you all see the going rate? I know I'm currently > > > underpaid at $25/hour and I do ALL the PHP programming, project > > management, > > > engineering, database theory etc...oh...and did I mention I do all the > > > network support too? (I'm taking my CCNA in June...) so yeah...we're a > > > starup what did you expect?! =) > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > Disclaimer: I don't mean to offend anyone out there who codes > in PHP. But > > > from the experience that I've had trying to find someone who > can really > > code > > > clean, effecient stuff that plugs into the whole picture has been > > virtually > > > non-existent...(if you do, please call! We have a few openings!) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Jonathan Sharp > > > > > > Director of Technology - Imprev Inc. > > > Renwick Development Group - Flyerware > > > http://www.flyerware.com/ > > > Phone: (425)688-9200 > > > Cell: (425)766-1398 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:40 PM > > > To: Shane McBride > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Shane, > > > > > > This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD): > > > > > > $60/hr > > > $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings) > > > > > > General discounts for features such as : fun,true > non-profit,intelligent > > > employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale > depending on > > > their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time). > Also, barter > > > is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one > day this will > > > go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time estimates > > > and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff." > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Philip Olson > > > http://www.cornado.com/ > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote: > > > > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should > make for a good > > > > thread. :) > > > > > > > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? > I have just > > > > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I > > > > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about > how to price > > > > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small > single owners > > > > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > > > > > > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without > have to learn > > > > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I > didn't charge > > > > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with > PHP. So, I of > > > > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve. > > > > > > > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is > > > > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll > need to create > > > > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be > rather dynamic > > > > since the data content depends largely on the previous > choices of the > > > > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html and > > > > PHP. > > > > > > > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the > contributors > > > > to this list and their opinions. > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
I charge $50/hr. for any programming I do - if it's a small project. For larger projects, I work out a budget with my client. I'm in the process of releasing a new service to the web, though. Swift eNetwork. This project will allow my clients to register their website on the network and build their website without needing to do any programming (or without needing ME to do any programming, everything is dynamic) -- they choose their layouts, colors, etc. and put in their data and they're all set. If they want to add to their website's functionality, they add some pre-designed, customizable plugins - and suddenly they have a fully-dynamic, professional website in minutes. I read your post Josh... I think you are a very talented programmer - and graphic artist. I am lacking in the area of graphics and once I have established my network online I will be looking for someone to develop some more graphical appearing templates for my clients to use. The concept is relatively simple -- all of the elements used on the page are in tables so as long as the graphical templates can work with tables, they should function perfectly. Since the network isn't online, I can't show it to anyone. But I added a page to a site where you can see some screenshots if you are interested to see my work. Let me know what you think!! And if anyone is interested in helping me with some of the templates, please let me know...maybe we can work something out together... The release date is Valentine's Day... http://www.geocities.com/rswfire/enetwork/ Rob Swift International _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
I hear ya' on those multi tallented skills you got...same here, but I on my resume I've only put my programming skills...I just let them find out about all that *other* stuff later...it makes for a good reason for a raise =) -Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:52 PM > To: PHP User Group > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a > good programmer, and a good graphic designer. I don't really know > any, apart from myself, and I've been just shy of being called a lying > scumbag by a few HR companies over the years when they look at > my resume ;-) > > This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80 > an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I > make here, which is more like US$20/hr > > Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ > > I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to > hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:49 PM > Subject: RE: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > I find this an interesting topic... > > > > One thing that we've found when looking for additional PHP > programmers to > > add is that since PHP has exploded there are a lot of people out there > > coding in PHP that don't have a background in programming or some of the > > design considerations. We've looked at various places from > techies.com to > > guru.com and haven't found that many PHP gurus out there. So in terms of > > skill level, what do you all see the going rate? I know I'm currently > > underpaid at $25/hour and I do ALL the PHP programming, project > management, > > engineering, database theory etc...oh...and did I mention I do all the > > network support too? (I'm taking my CCNA in June...) so yeah...we're a > > starup what did you expect?! =) > > > > Comments? > > > > Disclaimer: I don't mean to offend anyone out there who codes > in PHP. But > > from the experience that I've had trying to find someone who can really > code > > clean, effecient stuff that plugs into the whole picture has been > virtually > > non-existent...(if you do, please call! We have a few openings!) > > > > Thanks, > > -Jonathan Sharp > > > > Director of Technology - Imprev Inc. > > Renwick Development Group - Flyerware > > http://www.flyerware.com/ > > Phone: (425)688-9200 > > Cell: (425)766-1398 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:40 PM > > To: Shane McBride > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > > > > > Hey Shane, > > > > This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD): > > > > $60/hr > > $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings) > > > > General discounts for features such as : fun,true non-profit,intelligent > > employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale depending on > > their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time). Also, barter > > is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one day > this will > > go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time estimates > > and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff." > > > > Regards, > > > > Philip Olson > > http://www.cornado.com/ > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote: > > > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make > for a good > > > thread. :) > > > > > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just > > > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I > > > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about > how to price > > > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small > single owners > > > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > > > > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn > > > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge > > > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with > PHP. So, I of > > > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve. > > > > > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is > > > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll > need to create > > > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic > > > since the data content depends largely on the previous choices of the > > > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html and > > > PHP. > > > > > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the > contributors > > > to this list and their opinions. > > > > > > TIA, > > > Shane > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >
I have an engineering background with 10yrs consulting experience and have seen many different type of fee structures (fixed project rate, hourly, percentage, profit-share etc.) The typical formula for determining rate is 2-3 times salary. The multiplier covers G&A + a little profit margin. For example, a salaried employee getting $25/hr is equivalent to a consultant charging $50-75 or more an hour. There is a BIG difference between consultant, contract and employee:: - A true consultant is self sufficient, independant of the client and bears their own infrastructure costs (phone, office space/rent, software, computers & equipment, invoicing accounting, training etc.); - Employee gets paid regardless; - Employees are entitled to holidays, benifits and possibly overtime; - Employees get training on paid company time; - Employee assumes little or no liability for their actions (very important difference); - Employee doesn't have to worry about all the "other" stuff. - Contract is somewhere between consultant and employee (big grey area here). Regards, - Scott There is no fixed rate or specific formula, it all depends on the marketplace and proficiency. > > This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80 > > an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I > > make here, which is more like US$20/hr > > Remember though, if you're on a salary you'll get less an hour for > ANYTHING (not just PHP) but it'll at least be consistent... > > Jason > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- -------------------------------------- Scott A. Gerhardt P.Geo. Gerhardt Information Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------
Shane McBride wrote: > > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make for a good thread. :) > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just been given a >project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I normally do work for. So I am >VERY confused.concerned about how to price it. Most of my other PHP projects have >been done for small single owners businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn it, I am >stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge them a REAL price >because I didn't know how to do it with PHP. So, I of course didn't charge the client >for my learning curve. > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is creating a >web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll need to create the database tables, >etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic since the data content depends >largely on the previous choices of the end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. >5-6 pages of html and PHP. > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the contributors to this list >and their opinions. > > TIA, > Shane Just an observation from some people I know in the USA - they charge whatever they can get away with. How about honestly charging what you think you are worth ? Knowing how to use php means nothing - but if you know it well you will be worth a lot.
>>>>> "JG" == "Josh G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a > good programmer, and a good graphic designer. I've never quite understood why employers seem to expect that a php/perl programmer should also be doing graphic design. They're quite unrelated activities using completely different skills. It's not something that's generally expected from other professions (when was the last time you saw an advert for an accountant that required they be proficient with Photoshop?) so why programmers? -robin (who can't draw for toffee) -- Robin Vickery................................................. BlueCarrots, 14th Floor, 20 Eastbourne Terrace, London, W2 6LE
nah, it's not that they want me to, it's that they don't believe i can :) although my present employer is rather happy that i can draw and code, he saves a salary that way ;-) Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Vickery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > >>>>> "JG" == "Josh G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a > > good programmer, and a good graphic designer. > > I've never quite understood why employers seem to expect that a > php/perl programmer should also be doing graphic design. They're > quite unrelated activities using completely different skills. It's > not something that's generally expected from other professions > (when was the last time you saw an advert for an accountant that > required they be proficient with Photoshop?) so why programmers? > > > -robin (who can't draw for toffee) > > > -- > Robin Vickery................................................. > BlueCarrots, 14th Floor, 20 Eastbourne Terrace, London, W2 6LE > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Is there a simple way to format a variable into an appropriate financial string... 5.0 5.4 4.346 I'd like all of the above to format as $XXX.XX _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
number_format($number,2); Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "[ rswfire ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: [PHP] Formatting/Financial > Is there a simple way to format a variable into an appropriate financial > string... > > 5.0 > 5.4 > 4.346 > > I'd like all of the above to format as $XXX.XX > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Hello, [! Thursday, February 01, 2001, 06:33:53, you wrote: r> Is there a simple way to format a variable into an appropriate financial r> string... r> I'd like all of the above to format as $XXX.XX try to use $value = 5.0; $sval = sprintf("$%003.2f",$value); $sval will contain formatted value. Best regards! Andrew Golovin PGP Fingertip 24FD A0CD 667C 1FC7 C2F7 A2EA 9742 D484 FD3C 598D http://exper.ural.ru/
UltraDev Gang- I am working on getting support for PHP4 into Ultradev 4. I have some working code that implements about 1/2 of UD's feature set in PHP (on Windows). Ideally I'd like to see a server model for UD that fully supports PHP. If you want to take a look at release 0.01, the link is at: http://www.geocities.com/php4ud There is also a reference panel for PHP in the queue at the Macromedia Exchange. When it gets reviewed and placed on the exchange, I will post a message here. "So how can I help?" I am so glad you asked. :) If you have any ideas on how better to implement the generated code that fits with MM's basic design, let me know. I am trying to make the conneciton stuff for with any db, not just Mysql, so if you have any ideas or sample code, let me know. Also there is a whole set of things left to implement on the web site, feel free to tackle one of those. You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy coding! Dan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
HI... I always have to work with databases in .txt file. But its very slow... To find something in the text, i use exec(grep...)... to get all the text i work with .. while(!eof)... Anyone know how to optimize this search and how to optimize all the database use using .txt files? Sorry for the english... I'm from Brazil... Tks.. Scratch
Bom dia Vinicius: Yo nao falo o portugues muito bem ... sabes espanol? Si no puedes usar un database SQL, porque no pruebas un database DBA que es un database 'flat file' mas o menos como un '.txt file' ... entonces podrias tratar del data con los funciones DBA de PHP que seguramente son mas faciles. Busca mas informacion sobre DBA en el manual de PHP. Mick On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Vinicius Garcia wrote: > HI... I always have to work with databases in .txt file. But its very > slow... To find something in the text, i use exec(grep...)... to get all > the text i work with .. while(!eof)... Anyone know how to optimize this > search and how to optimize all the database use using .txt files? > > Sorry for the english... I'm from Brazil... > Tks.. > > Scratch > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
I recently downloaded the ArGoSoft mail server that someone on this list once suggested when trying to use the mail command on a window's system running php. I have since installed it and it works fine, except for the fact that my isp blocks connections to port 25 that will relay email to other servers. Tech support says I can do it using any other port tho. Is there a way to re-write the mail() function to do this? Or does the port specs rest solely with the mail server (which cannot be configured on which port to send to)? Help appreciated, suggestions welcome, better server software links honored, and yes i did read the manual on mail(). thank you __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Hello Is there a 'redo' loop control function? All I can find are 'break' and 'continue'. Thanks Lux
I am not sure whether this is related to PHP. I'm using PHP and Javascript to do my program. I have some problem with my reloading parent window. In my program, I have a delete button which will pop up a child window once the user clicked the button. In the child window will have two option of delete buttons. Once the user clicked either one button, i want the child window to be close and at the same time the parent window will reload. How should I do this. Please give some advise or tips to me. thanks.
I have been working on a script and come to a brick wall which I can't break... I am using Suse Linux 2.2 kernel, PHP4.04pl1 Mysql 3.22 Mod_ssl open_ssl - this is running on an old 486 with 16Meg RAM. I have a session object variable ($Items) which has as one of its elements ($LineItems) an array of objects each containing the order line details. This script is to insert the records to process a dispatch into an invoice. I lock (all the tables I need to lock) before going into a loop through all the $Items->LineItems and then a whole raft of SQL inserts and updates using the same $SQL variable to hold the SQL and $Result variable to hold the result in each case. The problem is that I get a parser error when the sript within the foreach ($Items->LineItems as OrderLine) loop gets too big when I remove the last block of code the pasrser error which was occurring at a line before the deleted code dissappears and the script works (as far as it goes). Add in a few more lines within the loop and the parser error comes back but further up in the code that was previously working ok - and has not been changed!! The script is not huge line 343 - 385 is where the parser is falling over . Has any one hit this snag. I can post the script if this pricks anyones interest! TIA Phil Daintree
Phil, posting the scrpit would be good, it's hard to say anything without having seen it. Ben Phil Daintree wrote: > > I have been working on a script and come to a brick wall which I can't break... > > I am using Suse Linux 2.2 kernel, PHP4.04pl1 Mysql 3.22 Mod_ssl open_ssl - this is > running on an old 486 with 16Meg RAM. > > I have a session object variable ($Items) which has as one of its elements >($LineItems) an > array of objects each containing the order line details. This script is to insert the > records to process a dispatch into an invoice. > I lock (all the tables I need to lock) before going into a loop through all the > $Items->LineItems and then a whole raft of SQL inserts and updates using the same >$SQL > variable to hold the SQL and $Result variable to hold the result in each case. > > The problem is that I get a parser error when the sript within the foreach > ($Items->LineItems as OrderLine) loop > gets too big when I remove the last block of code the pasrser error which was >occurring > at a line before the deleted code dissappears and the script works (as far as it >goes). > Add in a few more lines within the loop and the parser error comes back but further >up in > the code that was previously working ok - and has not been changed!! > > The script is not huge line 343 - 385 is where the parser is falling over . > > Has any one hit this snag. I can post the script if this pricks anyones interest! > > TIA > Phil Daintree > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Folks, The title is my question, how do I assign strign value into variables? Say , is the syntax below correct? if ($singleRooms==1) { $roomType ='Single Room'; }elseif ($singleRooms==2) { $roomType ='Double Room'; }else{ $roomType='Room Type not declared'; } Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There is nothing more rewarding than reaching the goal you set for yourself"
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Folks, > The title is my question, how do I assign strign value into variables? > Say , is the syntax below correct? > > if ($singleRooms==1) { > $roomType ='Single Room'; > }elseif ($singleRooms==2) { > > }else{ > $roomType='Room Type not declared'; > } Yup, the = is the assignment operator. You might like to take a look at manual/en/language.operators.php at your favourite mirror for more information on the various operators. You could also do the above with a switch statement. switch($singlerooms) { case 1: $roomType ='Single Room'; break; case 2: $roomType ='Double Room'; break; ...... } Cheers -- David Robley | WEBMASTER & Mail List Admin RESEARCH CENTRE FOR INJURY STUDIES | http://www.nisu.flinders.edu.au/ AusEinet | http://auseinet.flinders.edu.au/ Flinders University, ADELAIDE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA
> Does anyone have a function that tells you weather a variable holds a valid > e-mail address or not? It depends on what you mean by "valid email address". For example, I can enter "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which looks valid, but doesn't exist. You can take things a step further and lookup the domain and make sure it exists. Even then, I can enter "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which will pass the lookup check. You can go even further and send me an email message with a "key" which I must enter in order to prove that the email address I gave is valid. Even so, it is easy to create a throw-away account at hotmail or another free email provider. Anyway, there is a class on phpclasses.upperdesign.com that does a good job of checking an address. Regards, Sean Cazzell
Does anyone have, or know of a script which simulates what Apache gives out when it shows the entire contents of a directory ? I find it very handy to use the directory listing of say graphics directories and the like, but I dont want others looking into them. What I thought would be a good system is to have an index.php file which asks for a password. If the password is accepted, it shoots them off to a php script which displays the contents of the DIR just as apache would. This way I can bar viewing of the directories contents, only viewable to the owners of the password. Ive seen a couple of scripts which claim to show the directory listing, but none of them seem to work any good with a decent layout and amount of file info. So im looking for a script which can display the listing properly. Does one exist, or am I just relieving myself into the wind ? Thanks Chris -- Chris Aitken - Webmaster/Database Designer - IDEAL Internet email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 -------------------------------------------- Unix -- because a computer's a terrible thing to waste!
haven't seen one, but it'd take 10 minutes to write. if i had a php install here at work I'd do it for you :) Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Aitken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PHP User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] E-mail valid > > > Does anyone have, or know of a script which simulates what Apache gives out > when it shows the entire contents of a directory ? > > I find it very handy to use the directory listing of say graphics > directories and the like, but I dont want others looking into them. > > What I thought would be a good system is to have an index.php file which > asks for a password. If the password is accepted, it shoots them off to a > php script which displays the contents of the DIR just as apache would. > > This way I can bar viewing of the directories contents, only viewable to > the owners of the password. > > > Ive seen a couple of scripts which claim to show the directory listing, but > none of them seem to work any good with a decent layout and amount of file > info. So im looking for a script which can display the listing properly. > Does one exist, or am I just relieving myself into the wind ? > > > Thanks > > Chris > > -- > Chris Aitken - Webmaster/Database Designer - IDEAL Internet > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 > -------------------------------------------- > > Unix -- because a computer's a terrible thing to waste! > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
(Damn I hate it when I forget to change the subject) Does anyone have, or know of a script which simulates what Apache gives out when it shows the entire contents of a directory ? I find it very handy to use the directory listing of say graphics directories and the like, but I dont want others looking into them. What I thought would be a good system is to have an index.php file which asks for a password. If the password is accepted, it shoots them off to a php script which displays the contents of the DIR just as apache would. This way I can bar viewing of the directories contents, only viewable to the owners of the password. Ive seen a couple of scripts which claim to show the directory listing, but none of them seem to work any good with a decent layout and amount of file info. So im looking for a script which can display the listing properly. Does one exist, or am I just relieving myself into the wind ? Thanks Chris -- Chris Aitken - Webmaster/Database Designer - IDEAL Internet email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 -------------------------------------------- Unix -- because a computer's a terrible thing to waste!
You might like to try WebExplorer, may do what you want. http://suneworld.com/programs/ hth Regards Andrew Braund > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Aitken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2001 15:35 > To: PHP User Group > Subject: [PHP] Directory Listing with PHP > > > > > (Damn I hate it when I forget to change the subject) > > > Does anyone have, or know of a script which simulates what Apache gives out > when it shows the entire contents of a directory ? > > I find it very handy to use the directory listing of say graphics > directories and the like, but I dont want others looking into them. > > What I thought would be a good system is to have an index.php file which > asks for a password. If the password is accepted, it shoots them off to a > php script which displays the contents of the DIR just as apache would. > > This way I can bar viewing of the directories contents, only viewable to > the owners of the password. > > > Ive seen a couple of scripts which claim to show the directory listing, but > none of them seem to work any good with a decent layout and amount of file > info. So im looking for a script which can display the listing properly. > Does one exist, or am I just relieving myself into the wind ? > > > Thanks > > Chris > > -- > Chris Aitken - Webmaster/Database Designer - IDEAL Internet > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 > -------------------------------------------- > > Unix -- because a computer's a terrible thing to waste!
To connect to an AS400, you MUST HAVE THE DRDA package installed. Then you just run the Unified ODBC as usual (which still don't use ODBC but translate to DB2 CLI under the covers.) Look for the DRDA stuff in the DB2 Connect area/CD-ROM. There's stuff on phpbuilder.com about it too. -Szii At 01:33 PM 1/31/2001 -0500, Conover, Ryan wrote: >I was wondering if anyone as successfully pulled info from a DB2 Database on >As400. My enviroment is >Win2K server/php4.0.4/ZendOptimizer/IIS5. I was wondering how I could >directly query the AS400. Or would it be wiser to pull the info from the >AS400 into MSSQL Server. I was wondering how I would do either of these >options. > > >Ryan Conover > >-- >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Hi, Im rather a novice at PHP, so I appologize if this question is rather basic. Also, to be sure, I have looked through the PHP site and archives for answers to this question with no luck. Sorry if it is repetative. I am writing a script that will send me an email every time a 404 error is returned for an http request. So far I have the script working so that it will email me and inform me of the URL of the page that has the offending link by using the HTTP_REFERER environment variable. I would also like to find out what the requested page URL is. I have checked phpinfo() for info on other Apache enviro variables, but can't seem to find anything that would work. How can I do this? Is it possible? Thank you, Michael
> I am writing a script that will send me an email every time a 404 > error is returned for an http request. So far I have the script > working so that it will email me and inform me of the URL of the > page that has the offending link by using the HTTP_REFERER environment > variable. I would also like to find out what the requested page URL is. > I have checked phpinfo() for info on other Apache enviro variables, > but can't seem to find anything that would work. How can I do this? > Is it possible? Sure - $REQUEST_URI is what you're looking for. Example of its use: http://www.inww.com/typesomecrapinhere :) Jason
HI, I am a new user of php, i will use it to develop a web site which need to connect to MSSQL, could any one tell me about what about the common issues i have to take care such as performance, memory leak and database connection, etc? Regards, Chris Choy EZ-Finance (Brightex) Limited
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Thank you very much, I will look forward to this. This may be just what I was looking for, a complete beginner's tutorial for PHP. Congrats and good luck with the opening night. Sincerely, Navid -----Original Message----- From: PHPBeginner.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:31 AM To: PHP Subject: [PHP] RE: test ... please ignore ... Maxim Maletsky Founder, Chief Developer PHPBeginner.com (Where PHP Begins) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.phpbeginner.com
Thanks for you sweet words! did not expect, though ... We were about to open PHPBeginner.com today, but our local test servers went to hell once we upgraded them to PHP4.0.4. Not because there's a bug or something, but because of configurations. We are still testing the site, and will open it , as says on the FrontPage in 10 days. On February 11-th.. Cheers, Maxim Maletsky -----Original Message----- From: Navid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:02 PM To: 'PHPBeginner.com'; 'PHP' Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: test ... please ignore ... Thank you very much, I will look forward to this. This may be just what I was looking for, a complete beginner's tutorial for PHP. Congrats and good luck with the opening night. Sincerely, Navid -----Original Message----- From: PHPBeginner.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:31 AM To: PHP Subject: [PHP] RE: test ... please ignore ... Maxim Maletsky Founder, Chief Developer PHPBeginner.com (Where PHP Begins) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.phpbeginner.com
Hello together, if you currently use sessions and register objects inside of a session it is necessary to include the class definition of such object in every php page to be able to access the contents of such object. This is problematic if you have a system where the main php page does not know everything about the functions it is using. For example we have a lot of functions that do some specific tasks and require to store an object inside the session. However, the main php page (where the session_start() is in) doesn't know anything about it. On the next page our function is only able to access the data that was inside the object und the name of the class that is used by the object. So, theoretically it would be possible to load the class definition now and make the object useable. Is there any mechanism we can use to take the, now existing, class definition and the incomplete PHP Object to create a real, useable PHP Object? -- Till soon, Thomas Stinner billiton internet services GmbH
Hello guys, I have the following problem: in my PHP.ini (which stays under c:\WINNT) I have include_path = "P:\includes; " ; UNIX: "/path1:/path2" Windows: "\path1;\path2" doc_root = ; the root of the php pages, used only if nonempty under "P:\includes" are PHPLIB and some few scripts that I need to auto_prepend under all the roots on my local server. PHPLIB is being included properly, but, if I try to include a file within a current directory like: include ("header.inc"); I get the following error: Warning: Failed opening 'header.inc' for inclusion (include_path='P:\includes; ') in p:\phpbeginner\index.html on line 17 (NOTE: include ("$DOCUMENT_ROOT/header.inc"); will work perfectly ) I know that on Linux to fix the problem would be enough to add something like this into PHP.INI include_path = ".: /full/path/to/includes: " ; UNIX: "/path1:/path2" Windows: "\path1;\path2" How do I do this under Win2K ? Anyone had this problem before? Cheers, Maxim Maletsky Founder, Chief Developer PHPBeginner.com (Where PHP Begins) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.phpbeginner.com
Hi all, has anyone seen mailing list archiving software with a php frontend? more detailed: I am looking for software that sits listening on an email address and will archive all mail that it receives (which in this case would be that of a mailing list). The archive should be accessible by a php interface. I guess there must be some off-the-shelf solution to this (or at least each of the components separately), but I have not seen it. Thanks for your help, Ben
Can anyone explain in detail how I can increase the upload_max_filesize to 5 meg instead of the default 2 meg? Thanks, David
Sorry, that isn't very detailed but I appreciate your help. Where can I find php.ini? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonatan Bagge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] upload_max_filesize > David Smith wrote: > > > Can anyone explain in detail how I can increase the upload_max_filesize to 5 meg instead of the default 2 meg? > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > php.ini >
Hello! I wonder if anyone can tell me how I can use an another image as an background in a new image? David
help... ok, now this looks quite straightforward... $filename="http://195.92.38.87/cgi-win/homeview.dll?details1?src=1050&Proper tyCode=1050003/SAPHI/14665/3"; $file=fopen($filename,"r") or die("cant open $filename"); while(!feof($file)){ $line=fgets($file,4096); echo $line; } but when i run it i get an error fopen("http://195.92.38.87/cgi-win/homeview.dll?details1?src=1050&PropertyCo de=1050003/SAPHI/14665/3","r") - Inappropriate ioctl for device in /home/httpd/docs/test.php on line 6 So can someone please tell me, what the blazes an ioctl is and why do i have an inappropriate one? The remote file is fine, Thanks Kif