php-general Digest 25 Aug 2013 09:31:34 -0000 Issue 8343

Topics (messages 321960 through 321964):

Re: Alternate list for eclipse ide support?
        321960 by: Sebastian Krebs
        321961 by: Lester Caine
        321962 by: Sebastian Krebs
        321963 by: Lester Caine

PHP-5.5.2 +opcache segfaults with Piwik
        321964 by: Grant

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2013/8/24 Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk>

> With composer being pushed as the 'in way to go' and not being able to see
> how to get some code relating to bootstrap and smarty development because
> the links only show composer I've downloaded a plug-in for eclipse that is
> supposed to handle that. But it's not working as I expect, and while
> heading over to the plug-ins developers is the obvious step, what I'd
> actually prefer is a more general PHP/Eclipse list to discuss general IDE
> problems rather than even PDT biased discussions.
>
> Is there a suitable list? And if not is there any interest in setting one
> up? ... at the risk of proliferating even more lists ...


Hi,

I for myself switched over to PhpStorm from Eclipse/PDT and I fear meany
hear use either PhpStorm, or Netbeans in the meantime. I'm not saying, that
nobody is using Eclipse/PDT anymore, but I fear you wont find much interest
here.

Regards,
Sebastian


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Sebastian Krebs wrote:
With composer being pushed as the 'in way to go' and not being able to see
>how to get some code relating to bootstrap and smarty development because
>the links only show composer I've downloaded a plug-in for eclipse that is
>supposed to handle that. But it's not working as I expect, and while
>heading over to the plug-ins developers is the obvious step, what I'd
>actually prefer is a more general PHP/Eclipse list to discuss general IDE
>problems rather than even PDT biased discussions.
>
>Is there a suitable list? And if not is there any interest in setting one
>up? ... at the risk of proliferating even more lists ...

I for myself switched over to PhpStorm from Eclipse/PDT and I fear meany
hear use either PhpStorm, or Netbeans in the meantime. I'm not saying, that
nobody is using Eclipse/PDT anymore, but I fear you wont find much interest
here.

I'm still on PHPEclipse for PHP. PDT just does not work for me, and neither did Netbeans for some of the other languages I have to live with, which is why PHPStorm is no use either. I need python in addition to C/C++ with document handling, and firebird which don't get any support from either so Eclipse is really my only option.

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Lester Caine - G8HFL
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Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
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2013/8/24 Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk>

> Sebastian Krebs wrote:
>
>> With composer being pushed as the 'in way to go' and not being able to see
>>> >how to get some code relating to bootstrap and smarty development
>>> because
>>> >the links only show composer I've downloaded a plug-in for eclipse that
>>> is
>>> >supposed to handle that. But it's not working as I expect, and while
>>> >heading over to the plug-ins developers is the obvious step, what I'd
>>> >actually prefer is a more general PHP/Eclipse list to discuss general
>>> IDE
>>> >problems rather than even PDT biased discussions.
>>> >
>>> >Is there a suitable list? And if not is there any interest in setting
>>> one
>>> >up? ... at the risk of proliferating even more lists ...
>>>
>>
>> I for myself switched over to PhpStorm from Eclipse/PDT and I fear meany
>> hear use either PhpStorm, or Netbeans in the meantime. I'm not saying,
>> that
>> nobody is using Eclipse/PDT anymore, but I fear you wont find much
>> interest
>> here.
>>
>
> I'm still on PHPEclipse for PHP. PDT just does not work for me, and
> neither did Netbeans for some of the other languages I have to live with,
> which is why PHPStorm is no use either.


PHPEclipse is still in development? O_o The last time I noticed it, it
looked abandoned. However, if it works for you, there is nothing wrong with
it.

(Just realized: There are really back in business. Interesting ^^)


> I need python in addition to C/C++ with document handling, and firebird
> which don't get any support from either so Eclipse is really my only option.


Well, Firebird is quite specific (dont know if its supported bei the
IntelliJ-platform), but for Python and C Jetbrains has other IDEs (PyCharm,
AppCode) :D Just saying: There _are_ alternatives :)


However, my last mail wasn't about telling you, that your IDE is bad. But I
have the feeling, that this audience may be simply not interested.

Regards,
Sebastian


>
>
> --
> Lester Caine - G8HFL
> -----------------------------
> Contact - 
> http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=**contact<http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact>
> L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
> EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
> Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk
> Rainbow Digital Media - 
> http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.**uk<http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk>
>
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> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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>


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Sebastian Krebs wrote:
However, my last mail wasn't about telling you, that your IDE is bad. But I have
the feeling, that this audience may be simply not interested.

I'm only using Java in order to make tweaks to PHPEclipse and and other support packages. ( and the same with python ). We could do with more support in these areas, and comments like yours don't help, but there IS enough interest from users dissatisfied with the alternatives ... The problem is that there are perhaps too many options and combining the activities of a few would create a more popular common base?

The vast number of different 'frameworks' add further to the dilution of effort. It's a pity that there is not a single universally accepted development base in addition to a single IDE into which support could be pooled. It's not going to happen as PHP now has too many diverse ways of doing the same thing? :(

--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-----------------------------
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk
Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk

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I've tried php-5.5.2 and 5.5.3 but both segfault with piwik unless the
opcache is disabled.  Someone filed a piwik bug but was told it's a
php bug:

http://dev.piwik.org/trac/ticket/4093

- Grant

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