php-general Digest 6 Mar 2013 16:15:38 -0000 Issue 8151

Topics (messages 320409 through 320419):

Re: Cold Intermediate Programmer trying to modularize website...
        320409 by: tamouse mailing lists
        320410 by: tamouse mailing lists

Re: Open form in new window
        320411 by: Tedd Sperling
        320414 by: Tedd Sperling
        320418 by: Jim Giner
        320419 by: Tedd Sperling

Re: PHP Web Developer Opportunity
        320412 by: Tedd Sperling
        320413 by: Matijn Woudt
        320415 by: Tedd Sperling
        320416 by: Matijn Woudt

Re: Not counting my own page visits
        320417 by: Angela Barone

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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Barry Smith <scs.bns...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know less about WordPress than I do about Joomla, but I did notice a
> template site that I cannot find any support for (cool templates) which
> supports both Joomla and WordPress, as well as HTML/CSS.
> I know that there are lists of buttons which I was going to rely on PHP to
> handle.
> The problem with WordPress and Joomla is that the current webhost will allow
> PHP, but will not allow MySQL.
>
> :) I know... time to move the site to a FREE php/MySQL host.  I already have
> one in mind, but the throughput from the host at a major ISP (Charter) is
> hard to leave... since the client has been paying for that webhost for over
> 20 years.  A GoDaddy hosted site I might be able to talk her into, in a
> pinch... but she is a firm believer in the idea that you pay for quality. It
> might be very hard convincing her to consider another webhost that isn't
> local, and Charter is a local (non-toll-free) phone call away.
>
> Thank you for the suggestion.  A WordPress site might actually be the
> solution... if she is willing to leave Charter.
> --
> Barry Smith
> c 704-497-4217
> e scs.bns...@gmail.com
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:22 PM, tamouse mailing lists
> <tamouse.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Have you considered setting this up in wordpress?
>>
>>
>

I'm not familiar with Charter as an ISP, or what they offer. I'm
guessing they are on a consumer web hosting plan? Something to look at
might be if there's a low-tier commercial hosting plan with Charter,
that might be better than moving off to GoDaddy (which I have very
personally strong averse feelings to, so take that into account).

Also, not trying to talk you out of a job or anything like that, but
there are also things like wordpress.com and other public blogging
platforms.

A completely left-field thing now is also github pages. You can't run
PHP, but wow can you make a great backbone.js app there.

Anyway, just tossing out ideas. They're free, so you can ignore them. :)

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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM, tamouse mailing lists
<tamouse.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Barry Smith <scs.bns...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I know less about WordPress than I do about Joomla, but I did notice a
>> template site that I cannot find any support for (cool templates) which
>> supports both Joomla and WordPress, as well as HTML/CSS.
>> I know that there are lists of buttons which I was going to rely on PHP to
>> handle.
>> The problem with WordPress and Joomla is that the current webhost will allow
>> PHP, but will not allow MySQL.
>>
>> :) I know... time to move the site to a FREE php/MySQL host.  I already have
>> one in mind, but the throughput from the host at a major ISP (Charter) is
>> hard to leave... since the client has been paying for that webhost for over
>> 20 years.  A GoDaddy hosted site I might be able to talk her into, in a
>> pinch... but she is a firm believer in the idea that you pay for quality. It
>> might be very hard convincing her to consider another webhost that isn't
>> local, and Charter is a local (non-toll-free) phone call away.
>>
>> Thank you for the suggestion.  A WordPress site might actually be the
>> solution... if she is willing to leave Charter.
>> --
>> Barry Smith
>> c 704-497-4217
>> e scs.bns...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:22 PM, tamouse mailing lists
>> <tamouse.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you considered setting this up in wordpress?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with Charter as an ISP, or what they offer. I'm
> guessing they are on a consumer web hosting plan? Something to look at
> might be if there's a low-tier commercial hosting plan with Charter,
> that might be better than moving off to GoDaddy (which I have very
> personally strong averse feelings to, so take that into account).
>
> Also, not trying to talk you out of a job or anything like that, but
> there are also things like wordpress.com and other public blogging
> platforms.
>
> A completely left-field thing now is also github pages. You can't run
> PHP, but wow can you make a great backbone.js app there.
>
> Anyway, just tossing out ideas. They're free, so you can ignore them. :)

Oh, another thing. AWS RDS (MySQL in the cloud) is possible, but it's
horribly expensive to run for a low-access site.

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On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Paul M Foster <pa...@quillandmouse.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 05:39:00PM +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
> 
>> On 04 Mar 2013 at 17:10, John Taylor-Johnston 
>> <john.taylor-johns...@cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote: 
>> 
>>> <button type="button" onclick="OpenWindow()">Submit</button> will not
>>> submit the form contents.
>> 
>> Nothing to stop your OpenWindow() function doing a submit as in:
>> 
>> <button type="button" onclick="OpenWindow(this.form)">Submit</button>
>> 
>> 
>> function OpenWindow (formPtr)
>>     {
>> 
>>     // Some actions
>> 
>>     formPtr.submit ();
>> 
>>     }
>> 
>> 
> 
>> Personally I never submit forms. I use ajax to communicate with PHP
>> scripts and do something with the data that is returned by the script.
>> You can see a simple example at http://www.clothears.org.uk
> 
> --
>> Cheers  --  Tim
>> 
> 
> I'm trying to figure out where the net gain in that is. The PHP file
> being called via AJAX is doing its processing on the server either way.
> So it appears the only difference is an asynchronous Javascript/AJAX
> call or a synchronous PHP call (on a standard PHP form submission). What
> am I missing?
> 
> Paul
> 

Yes, I agree with Paul -- how about an example?

That way we can see what you are trying to do.

You see, I use ajax all the time to send all sorts of things to the server 
without refresh, but I am at a lost to figure out what you are doing.

Cheers,

tedd


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On Mar 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, John Taylor-Johnston 
<john.taylor-johns...@cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:

> If you want to open a new page in response to a submit button press (using 
> PHP) you may be out of luck. I don't know of a way to do it without involving 
> another language. Opening a different page in the *same* window, yes. 
> Otherwise, no. But watch the other replies. Maybe someone knows something I 
> don't. Paul 
> Nope. Out of luck.

You mean opening a new page while keeping the current page open?

Because clicking a form submit *can* open a new page as per the form's 
action="" attribute.

If you want the current page to remain open while another page opens, then 
you'll need a javascript routine to do it.

Cheers,

tedd

_____________________
t...@sperling.com
http://sperling.com



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On 3/5/2013 7:32 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote:


On Mar 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, John Taylor-Johnston 
<john.taylor-johns...@cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:

If you want to open a new page in response to a submit button press (using PHP) 
you may be out of luck. I don't know of a way to do it without involving 
another language. Opening a different page in the *same* window, yes. 
Otherwise, no. But watch the other replies. Maybe someone knows something I 
don't. Paul
Nope. Out of luck.

You mean opening a new page while keeping the current page open?

Because clicking a form submit *can* open a new page as per the form's 
action="" attribute.

If you want the current page to remain open while another page opens, then 
you'll need a javascript routine to do it.

Cheers,

tedd

_____________________
t...@sperling.com
http://sperling.com


No - you meant to say "per the form's TARGET attribute"

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On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Jim Giner <jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com> wrote
> On 3/5/2013 7:32 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, John Taylor-Johnston 
>> <john.taylor-johns...@cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you want to open a new page in response to a submit button press (using 
>>> PHP) you may be out of luck. I don't know of a way to do it without 
>>> involving another language. Opening a different page in the *same* window, 
>>> yes. Otherwise, no. But watch the other replies. Maybe someone knows 
>>> something I don't. Paul
>>> Nope. Out of luck.
>> 
>> You mean opening a new page while keeping the current page open?
>> 
>> Because clicking a form submit *can* open a new page as per the form's 
>> action="" attribute.
>> 
>> If you want the current page to remain open while another page opens, then 
>> you'll need a javascript routine to do it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> tedd
>> 
>> _____________________
>> t...@sperling.com
>> http://sperling.com
>> 
>> 
> No - you meant to say "per the form's TARGET attribute"


No, I meant to say exactly what I said, namely ACTION.

The Target attribute deals with frames -- I have not done frames since 1995.

For a more in-depth Target explanation, please review:

http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/forms/_FORM_TARGET.html

However, I do not think that is what is being discussed here -- at least it is 
not what I was talking about.

Cheers,

tedd

_____________________
t...@sperling.com
http://sperling.com





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On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Allison Garcia <agar...@smallworldlabs.com> wrote:

> *SMALL WORLD LABS is looking for a PHP WEB DEVELOPER *
> 
> Small World Labs is looking for a PHP Web Developer to be a part of our
> team. The position is focused on managing, supporting and expanding the
> Small World Labs social collaboration and online community platform. This
> role will interface with the product, support, professional services and
> client teams to provide technical guidance and drive future platform
> expansion. You will be responsible for both front & back-end development
> for the Small World Labs platform.
> 
> We are looking for an intelligent, fast learner who can thrive in a high
> energy environment. Strong knowledge of PHP and the ability to work in a
> dynamic team are required.
> 
> *Technical Background:*
> - PHP (the primary development language)
> - CSS, MYSQL, DHTML, Javascript, JQuery, AJAX
> - Web Services using SOAP or RESTful API
> - Mobile development
> - Understanding of version control systems
> - Familiarity with Linux or another UNIX OS is preferred
> 
> *Required Experience:*
> - At least 3 years successful technical development experience
> - Proven ability to manage multiple projects in a fast paced environment
> - Ability to take ownership over development projects
> - Knowledge of online social and professional networks and developer
> interfaces
> - Strong communication skills, both written and verbal
> - Experience with requirements gathering
> 
> *Education:*
> - Bachelors or graduate degree
> 
> *Location:*
> - Austin, Texas
> 
> Interested parties, please email your resume with the subject line "PHP Web
> Developer" to j...@smallworldlabs.com.
> 
> *About Small World Labs*
> Small World Labs is an experienced provider of an online community and
> social collaboration platform that enables organizations to connect with
> their constituents in new ways. We help non-profit organizations understand
> how to engage with their members to drive loyalty, create opportunities,
> ignite conversations, distribute knowledge, and share experiences.

What are you offering?

Cheers,

tedd


_____________________
t...@sperling.com
http://sperling.com




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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Tedd Sperling <t...@sperling.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Allison Garcia <agar...@smallworldlabs.com>
> wrote:
>
> > *SMALL WORLD LABS is looking for a PHP WEB DEVELOPER *
> >
> > Small World Labs is looking for a PHP Web Developer to be a part of our
> > team. The position is focused on managing, supporting and expanding the
> > Small World Labs social collaboration and online community platform. This
> > role will interface with the product, support, professional services and
> > client teams to provide technical guidance and drive future platform
> > expansion. You will be responsible for both front & back-end development
> > for the Small World Labs platform.
> >
> > We are looking for an intelligent, fast learner who can thrive in a high
> > energy environment. Strong knowledge of PHP and the ability to work in a
> > dynamic team are required.
> >
> > *Technical Background:*
> > - PHP (the primary development language)
> > - CSS, MYSQL, DHTML, Javascript, JQuery, AJAX
> > - Web Services using SOAP or RESTful API
> > - Mobile development
> > - Understanding of version control systems
> > - Familiarity with Linux or another UNIX OS is preferred
> >
> > *Required Experience:*
> > - At least 3 years successful technical development experience
> > - Proven ability to manage multiple projects in a fast paced environment
> > - Ability to take ownership over development projects
> > - Knowledge of online social and professional networks and developer
> > interfaces
> > - Strong communication skills, both written and verbal
> > - Experience with requirements gathering
> >
> > *Education:*
> > - Bachelors or graduate degree
> >
> > *Location:*
> > - Austin, Texas
> >
> > Interested parties, please email your resume with the subject line "PHP
> Web
> > Developer" to j...@smallworldlabs.com.
> >
> > *About Small World Labs*
> > Small World Labs is an experienced provider of an online community and
> > social collaboration platform that enables organizations to connect with
> > their constituents in new ways. We help non-profit organizations
> understand
> > how to engage with their members to drive loyalty, create opportunities,
> > ignite conversations, distribute knowledge, and share experiences.
>
> What are you offering?
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd
>
>
> _____________________
> t...@sperling.com
> http://sperling.com
>
>
>
>
$2/hr.

Oh, It's not Friday..

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On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Matijn Woudt <tijn...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Tedd Sperling <t...@sperling.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Allison Garcia <agar...@smallworldlabs.com> wrote:
> -snip-
> What are you offering?
> 
> $2/hr.
> 
> Oh, It's not Friday.. 

Is it more on Friday?

Cheers,

tedd

_____________________
t...@sperling.com
http://sperling.com


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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Tedd Sperling <t...@sperling.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Matijn Woudt <tijn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Tedd Sperling <t...@sperling.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Allison Garcia <agar...@smallworldlabs.com>
> wrote:
> > -snip-
> > What are you offering?
> >
> > $2/hr.
> >
> > Oh, It's not Friday..
>
> Is it more on Friday?
>
> Friday is the time for jokes on this list, right?

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On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:49 PM, David Robley wrote:
> Misunderstanding what $cookie contains? It is a boolean, i.e. it will be 
> true or false depending on whether the cookie was set or not. To echo the 
> contents of a cookie, you need to use the cookie name, viz
> 
> <?php echo 'Cookie is: '.$_COOKIE['test2']."<br>"; ?>

        You're right - I didn't really understand cookies.  However, with 
everyone's help here, and by searching the web, I got it to work.  

Thank you to Tommy, Ash, and David!
Angela

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