php-general Digest 2 Apr 2008 18:50:38 -0000 Issue 5382
Topics (messages 272430 through 272456):
Re: array with null shows different with print_r and var_dump
272430 by: Casey
272432 by: Robert Cummings
Re: APC & FastCGI != upload progress ?
272431 by: Manuel Lemos
Re: Reporting mail as spam
272433 by: Manuel Lemos
Re: how to possibly cache something and the theory of better performance /
better speed
272434 by: Per Jessen
help needed building php_dblib for PHP 5.2.5 on windows
272435 by: Jason
E-Library Software
272436 by: Ali Reza Sajedi
272437 by: Wolf
272446 by: Daniel Brown
OT -> Hosting Services for Non-profit
272438 by: Wolf
272442 by: Daniel Brown
cuRL script won't submit
272439 by: Test User
272440 by: Test User
272441 by: Daniel Brown
272444 by: Test User
272445 by: Daniel Brown
Help with inputbox
272443 by: Ricardo Pinto
272449 by: Wolf
an easy destroying session issue...
272447 by: pere roca
272448 by: Daniel Brown
Re: autoload with namespace
272450 by: Nathan Nobbe
272451 by: Jochem Maas
272452 by: Richard Heyes
272453 by: Ryan Panning
272454 by: Nathan Nobbe
272455 by: Nathan Nobbe
272456 by: Richard Heyes
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Sanjay Mantoor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am new to PHP and PHP community.
>
> Following program outputs different values with print_r and var_dump.
>
> $array = array(null, NULL);
>
> print_r($array); prints values like below
> Array
> (
> [0] =>
> [1] =>
> )
>
print_r converts null, which is a variable type, like integer, string,
float, etc, into an empty string.
> where as var_dump($array) prints values like below
> array(2) {
> [0]=>
> NULL // Does this convert to null to NULL?
null is case-insensitive, so it doesn't matter how you type it.
> [1]=>
> NULL
> }
var_dump converts null into the string "NULL".
>
> Can you tell me why the above difference?
>
--
-Casey
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On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 12:19 +0530, Sanjay Mantoor wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am new to PHP and PHP community.
>
> Following program outputs different values with print_r and var_dump.
>
> $array = array(null, NULL);
>
> print_r($array); prints values like below
> Array
> (
> [0] =>
> [1] =>
> )
>
> where as var_dump($array) prints values like below
> array(2) {
> [0]=>
> NULL // Does this convert to null to NULL?
> [1]=>
> NULL
> }
>
> Can you tell me why the above difference?
NULL and null are the same thing. If I'm correct var_dump() was created
to solve the problem of not knowing what the datatypes are when using
print_r().
Cheers,
Rob.
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Hello,
on 03/30/2008 02:52 PM steve said the following:
> Hmmm... I am working on a PHP daemon for comet style connections...
> I'll keep that idea in mind. I guess that using Flash is best solution
> at the moment.. at least the only one I have working...
I implement COMET connections with plain HTML with an hidden iframe.
Actually I have been using that for a upload progress meter among other
AJAX uses. Actually it is an AJAX plug-in of this forms class:
http://www.phpclasses.org/formsgeneration
Here is an example of a form upload progress done all in PHP and plain HTML:
http://www.meta-language.net/forms-examples.html?example=test_upload_progress
Here you can watch a tutorial video that explains the COMET AJAX
implementation:
http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/video/1/package/1/section/plugin-ajax.html
> I'm guessing that FastCGI is buffering the upload until complete. PHP
> docs might want to document that.
>
> FastCGI is also breaking Apache's deflate module, but that is another issue...
Couldn't it be deflate buffering FastCGI output?
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Hello,
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Sándor Tamás wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wrote a little registration routine, which will send a confirmation letter
> to the user with a random number in the message body (my site is on a host,
> so I can't write in the subject, and ask the user to reply), which can be
> clicked then, and my site will finish the registration. My big problem is,
> that this host inserts an X header to the mail which identifies my PHP script
> as the X-PHP. As I recognize, this header adds a huge number to the spam
> score. Is there any possibility, to reduce the other scores? By the way, what
> counts most in a spam?
I agree with Richard, sending the messages as plain text may reduce your
chances of having your messages confused with spam.
But even plain text messages can be confused of spam often for not being
well-formed according to e-mail standards.
It is hard to tell what you may be doing wrong without seeing your code.
Anyway, I recommend you this popular PHP MIME message class that I use
that knows how to send e-mail standards compliant messages:
http://www.phpclasses.org/mimemessage
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Joey wrote:
> OK now, getting greedy I want to take it to another level. Instead of
> having to read the folder for images every time, why not read the
> image names into a file so that we can maintain therbey caching the
> list.
Your filesystem cache will do that for you anyway.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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Hi all,
I have previously posted this on the windows specific list, however I
believe this list reaches a wider audience so i'll try again.
I am trying to recompile php 5.2.5 on win32, specifically trying to
rebuild the freetds extension with the latest RC code from FreeTDS.org.
I am getting a persistent linking error however and am at a loss as
to what is causing it. The build environment is VC6 SP6 on WinXP x86 SP2.
The exact error is:
main\internal_functions.c(69) : error C2065: 'phpext_dblib_ptr' :
undeclared identifier
main\internal_functions.c(69) : error C2099: initializer is not a constant
NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"cl.exe"' : return code '0x2'
Help!, Anyone?
TIA
Jason
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Hello,
I am looking for an open source php based E-Library sofware.
Could anybody help?
Regards
Ali
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STFW
What has your searches on Google turned up?
What about your browsing through sourceforge?
---- Ali Reza Sajedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for an open source php based E-Library sofware.
>
> Could anybody help?
>
> Regards
>
> Ali
>
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> STFW
>
> What has your searches on Google turned up?
>
> What about your browsing through sourceforge?
Not to mention the the question, since your first message didn't
get any responses from the list three days ago, why didn't you at
least re-word it or add more details?
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I know there is at least 1 hoster on this list...
I have a friend who works for a non-profit and they are currently looking for a
new place to host their domain including the site and the email.
I'm not sure what they can pay or anything at this point, but I figured I'd see
about checking with you guys and see what options they have.
Their other thought is hosting internal since the ISPs they are talking to are
willing to do the DNS stuff as well, but currently it's an up-in-the-air
process.
Thanks!
Wolf
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know there is at least 1 hoster on this list...
>
> I have a friend who works for a non-profit and they are currently looking
> for a new place to host their domain including the site and the email.
>
> I'm not sure what they can pay or anything at this point, but I figured I'd
> see about checking with you guys and see what options they have.
>
> Their other thought is hosting internal since the ISPs they are talking to
> are willing to do the DNS stuff as well, but currently it's an up-in-the-air
> process.
Wolf,
Either contact me off-list or pass my information on to them so
that I can find out what they'll need. I do shared, VPS, and
dedicated servers, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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why will this script not submit the form - it does input data into the form -
but not submit it. below is the script and then the html form.. thanks
#!/usr/bin/php
<?php
$ch = curl_init();
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER,1);
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_COOKIEFILE, "/temp/cookie.txt");
curl_setopt($ch,
CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/?link=answer&l=c&qid=25AA98zRa";;);
curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS,
"link=answer&qid=25AA98zRa&.crumb=x88&textarea=here+ya+go&prev_ans_page=&e=0&sumbit1=Sumbit");
$result = curl_exec ($ch);
curl_close ($ch);
echo $result;
?>
/////////////////////////////// below is the HTML form
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
<form action="/question/act;_lt=Aktsgb5HMZ0vBEUSHj_3I1YdzKIX;_lv=3"
onsubmit="this.submit1.disabled=true;" method="post" name="template_form">
<input type="hidden" value="answer" name="link"/>
<input type="hidden" value="25AA98zRa" name="qid"/>
<input type="hidden" value="x88" name=".crumb"/>
<input type="hidden" value="" name="textarea"/>
<input type="hidden" value="" name="refer"/>
<input type="hidden" value="" name="prev_ans_page"/>
<input type="hidden" value="0" name="e"/>
<input class="button" type="submit" name="submit1" value="Submit"/>
</form>
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I added more info below and corrected the spelling of a word - very sorry to
add more to your already full mailbox
why will this script not submit the form - it does input data into the form -
but not submit it. below is the script and then the html form.. thanks
#!/usr/bin/php
<?php
$ch = curl_init();
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER,1);
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_COOKIEFILE, "/temp/cookie.txt");
curl_setopt($ch,
CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/?link=answer&l=c&qid=25AA98zRa";;);
curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS,
"link=answer&qid=25AA98zRa&.crumb=x88&textarea=here+ya+go&prev_ans_page=&e=0&submit1=Submit");
$result = curl_exec ($ch);
curl_close ($ch);
echo $result;
?>
/////////////////////////////// below is the HTML form
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
<form action="/question/act;_lt=Aktsgb5HMZ0vBEUSHj_3I1YdzKIX;_lv=3"
onsubmit="this.submit1.disabled=true;" method="post" name="template_form">
<input type="hidden" value="answer" name="link"/>
<input type="hidden" value="25AA98zRa" name="qid"/>
<input type="hidden" value="x88" name=".crumb"/>
<input type="hidden" value="" name="textarea"/>
<input type="hidden" value="" name="refer"/>
<input type="hidden" value="" name="prev_ans_page"/>
<input type="hidden" value="0" name="e"/>
<input class="button" type="submit" name="submit1" value="Submit"/>
</form>
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Test User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why will this script not submit the form - it does input data into the form -
> but not submit it. below is the script and then the html form.. thanks
>
[snip!]
> curl_setopt($ch,
> CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/?link=answer&l=c&qid=25AA98zRa";;);
[snip!]
> /////////////////////////////// below is the HTML form
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>
> <form action="/question/act;_lt=Aktsgb5HMZ0vBEUSHj_3I1YdzKIX;_lv=3"
> onsubmit="this.submit1.disabled=true;" method="post" name="template_form">
[snip!]
Because you're submitting it to the wrong page. What you're doing
will submit to the default (index) page in that directory, as opposed
to the form action. Change this:
curl_setopt($ch,
CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/?link=answer&l=c&qid=25AA98zRa";;);
curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS,
"link=answer&qid=25AA98zRa&.crumb=x88&textarea=here+ya+go&prev_ans_page=&e=0&submit1=Submit");
To this:
curl_setopt($ch,
CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/question/act;_lt=Aktsgb5HMZ0vBEUSHj_3I1YdzKIX;_lv=3";);
curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS,
"link=answer&qid=25AA98zRa&.crumb=x88&textarea=here+ya+go&prev_ans_page=&e=0&submit1=Submit");
Also, note two things:
1.) I removed the semicolon from the end of the CURLOPT_URL
value (between the quotes and parentheses).
2.) The form action looks like it's most likely dynamic, so
you'll have to think of a workaround yourself if it is.
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many thanks.. I have been working on this for weeks!
now I have to figure out how to extract that dynamic URL from the form before I
post..
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From: Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Test User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:54:16 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] cuRL script won't submit
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Test User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why will this script not submit the form - it does input data into the form -
> but not submit it. below is the script and then the html form.. thanks
>
[snip!]
> curl_setopt($ch,
> CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/?link=answer&l=c&qid=25AA98zRa";;);
[snip!]
> /////////////////////////////// below is the HTML form
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>
> <form action="/question/act;_lt=Aktsgb5HMZ0vBEUSHj_3I1YdzKIX;_lv=3"
> onsubmit="this.submit1.disabled=true;" method="post" name="template_form">
[snip!]
Because you're submitting it to the wrong page. What you're doing
will submit to the default (index) page in that directory, as opposed
to the form action. Change this:
curl_setopt($ch,
CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/?link=answer&l=c&qid=25AA98zRa";;);
curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS,
"link=answer&qid=25AA98zRa&.crumb=x88&textarea=here+ya+go&prev_ans_page=&e=0&submit1=Submit");
To this:
curl_setopt($ch,
CURLOPT_URL,"http://192.168.10.10/question/act;_lt=Aktsgb5HMZ0vBEUSHj_3I1YdzKIX;_lv=3";);
curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS,
"link=answer&qid=25AA98zRa&.crumb=x88&textarea=here+ya+go&prev_ans_page=&e=0&submit1=Submit");
Also, note two things:
1.) I removed the semicolon from the end of the CURLOPT_URL
value (between the quotes and parentheses).
2.) The form action looks like it's most likely dynamic, so
you'll have to think of a workaround yourself if it is.
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1+ (570-) 362-0283
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Test User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> many thanks.. I have been working on this for weeks!
> now I have to figure out how to extract that dynamic URL from the form
> before I post..
This may help to start:
<?php
$data = file_get_contents('http://www.website.com/html_form.html');
preg_match('/form action="(.*)"/Uis',$data,$matches);
print_r($matches);
?>
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Description:
------------
text including spaces placed in an input text control in HTML show the
whole text.
text including spaces placed in an input text control in PHP does not
show the whole text, only the first word up to the first space is
displayed. The same happens with variables from a BD.
My code:
$result = mysql_query("SELECT id, creation, modif, origin_val, dealer_id,
concat(ifnull(name_1,' '),' ',ifnull(name_2,' '),' ', ifnull(name_3,' ')) as
NOME
FROM crm_entity where id=$x");
$row = mysql_fetch_array($result);
$id = $row['id'];
$creation = $row['creation'];
echo"$creation";
$modif = $row['modif'];
$origin_val = $row['origin_val'];
$dealer_id = $row['dealer_id'];
$name = $row['NOME'];
echo "
<div id=\"quadro_1\">ID : $x
Criação: <input type=\"text\" size=\"50\" maxlength=\"12\"
name=\"\" value=$creation>
Modificação: <input type=\"text\" size=\"50\" maxlength=\"50\"
name=\"\" value=$modif>
Origin_Val: <input type=\"text\" size=\"10\" maxlength=\"50\"
name=\"\" value=$origin_val>
Dealer_Id: <input type=\"text\" size=\"10\" maxlength=\"50\"
name=\"\" value=$dealer_id><br><br>
Name: <input type=\"text\" size=\"10\" maxlength=\"50\" name=\"\"
value=$name>
</div>
<br><br>
";
--> There's more code, but is the same steps....
Output
ID : 100002 Criação: Modificação: Origin_Val: Dealer_Id:
Num_cli: NIF: Crm Code: Type_Val:
Titulo: Trato: Origin_Val:
Nome 1: Eolmar- Escola de Condução de Magalhães e SÁ, Lda Nome 2: Nome 3:
Nome:
Short Name: Sector de Actividade:
The date that appear has seconds, etc...in the field "Nome 1" only appears
the first one...the rest after the space doesn't appear! Everything after
the space don't appear....
Can you help me please?? It's Urgent!
Thanks!!
Ricardo Pinto
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<!-- SNIP -->
> <div id=\"quadro_1\">ID : $x
>
> Criação: <input type=\"text\" size=\"50\" maxlength=\"12\"
> name=\"\" value=$creation>
> Modificação: <input type=\"text\" size=\"50\" maxlength=\"50\"
> name=\"\" value=$modif>
> Origin_Val: <input type=\"text\" size=\"10\" maxlength=\"50\"
> name=\"\" value=$origin_val>
> Dealer_Id: <input type=\"text\" size=\"10\" maxlength=\"50\"
> name=\"\" value=$dealer_id><br><br>
> Name: <input type=\"text\" size=\"10\" maxlength=\"50\" name=\"\"
> value=$name>
> </div>
> <br><br>
> ";
> --> There's more code, but is the same steps....
<!-- SNIP -->
You aren't encapsulating the text, escape double quote the value field (like
you did for the rest of the fields) and you are good to go.
IE:
Name: <input type=\"text\" size=\"10\" maxlength=\"50\" name=\"\"
value=\"$name\">
Wolf
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for destroying the session without closing the browser it should work...
<?php
session_start();
$_SESSION = array();
session_destroy();
$userid = safehtml($_POST['userid']);
session_start();
//$sessionid can be used to retrieve the current name and session id as a
string
$sessionid=session_id();
//userid can be re-used as a variable in other php files
session_register("userid");
After leaving the page and coming back, without closing the browser, and
performing a SQL sentence like "insert into user_table values
('$userid','$sessionid')"; I get sessionid is still the same!! why¿?
thanks,
Pere
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:34 AM, pere roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <?php
> session_start();
> $_SESSION = array();
> session_destroy();
>
> $userid = safehtml($_POST['userid']);
> session_start();
>
> //$sessionid can be used to retrieve the current name and session id as a
> string
> $sessionid=session_id();
> //userid can be re-used as a variable in other php files
> session_register("userid");
>
> After leaving the page and coming back, without closing the browser, and
> performing a SQL sentence like "insert into user_table values
> ('$userid','$sessionid')"; I get sessionid is still the same!! why¿?
This is expected behavior. Calling session_destroy() only removes
the data associated with the session. To kill the PHPSESSID value,
RTFM: http://php.net/manual/en/function.session-destroy.php
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Panning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't been keeping an eye on this list so if this has come up before
> please point me in the right direction. :)
>
> Playing around with dev PHP 5.3 and namespaces, I'm finding it hard to
> write an autoload function. Since autoload will be triggered on any
> namespace call, the request could be for a namespace function or constant.
> Ex:
>
> FOO::BAR::me() ## A namespace function or class static function?
> FOO::BAR::ME ## A namespace constant or class constant?
>
> Since there isn't really a way for PHP to know what it is looking for,
> what would be a good method to write the autoload? Assuming the file
> structure:
>
> - Namespaces are in separate directories NS1::NS2::Class1 ==
> NS1/NS2/class.Calss1.php
> - Namespace files and class files are prefixed with ns.*.php and
> class.*.php (respectively)
i havent gotten the chance to work w/ 5.3 yet (been burried w/ other crap
lately) anyways ive been wondering about an autoloader in 5.3 so this is a
cool thread ;) well i would probly just extend my mechanism for pre-5.3 and
that is essentially to populate an array of absolute paths to your files.
in ur case each path would map directly to a package followed by the class
that contains it. so then ur autoloader just looks at the mapping when a
request comes in, checks the appropriate index in this array and calls
require or w/e on the abs path.
there is one curiosity / caveat underlying the 5.3 implementation... so
does the namespace get supplied to the autoload function as well as the
class name? is it just one big string or are they separate?
-nathan
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Nathan Nobbe schreef:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Panning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I haven't been keeping an eye on this list so if this has come up before
please point me in the right direction. :)
Playing around with dev PHP 5.3 and namespaces, I'm finding it hard to
write an autoload function. Since autoload will be triggered on any
namespace call, the request could be for a namespace function or constant.
Ex:
FOO::BAR::me() ## A namespace function or class static function?
FOO::BAR::ME ## A namespace constant or class constant?
Since there isn't really a way for PHP to know what it is looking for,
what would be a good method to write the autoload? Assuming the file
structure:
- Namespaces are in separate directories NS1::NS2::Class1 ==
NS1/NS2/class.Calss1.php
- Namespace files and class files are prefixed with ns.*.php and
class.*.php (respectively)
i havent gotten the chance to work w/ 5.3 yet (been burried w/ other crap
lately) anyways ive been wondering about an autoloader in 5.3 so this is a
cool thread ;) well i would probly just extend my mechanism for pre-5.3 and
that is essentially to populate an array of absolute paths to your files.
in ur case each path would map directly to a package followed by the class
that contains it. so then ur autoloader just looks at the mapping when a
request comes in, checks the appropriate index in this array and calls
require or w/e on the abs path.
there is one curiosity / caveat underlying the 5.3 implementation... so
does the namespace get supplied to the autoload function as well as the
class name? is it just one big string or are they separate?
one big string. how does php know before hand whether foo::get() is a
namespaced function call or a static class method call?
the OP has a point about autoloading this stuff - I can only see problems
arising,
mostly because the namespace seperator is the same as class/method seperator ...
something that seems to be compounded by the fact that you can spoof nested
namespaces
ala:
namespace My::Pseudo::Nested::NS;
I have been following the namespace developments and have my doubt that it
solves the
symbol clashing issues in a way that doen't just move the headache to somewhere
else
(as opposed to eradicate it).
I haven't bothered to play with it yet ... I figure the functionality will
require
a few version before the wrinkles are ironed out. much like the php5.0 OO
functionality
was a fast moving target, much less so in more recent versions.
one day namespaced php code will be the norm, one that day Richard Lynch will
either
announce his retirement (I hope not) or that he's decided to move over to the
OO camp
(one man can only offer so much resistance ;-).
an issue I have with namespaces is that they aren't packages as you might fin d
in other langs,
but you do seem to be tied into a particular development model (one namespace
per file, namespaces
in their own file) ... something php has not really done before: upto now you
have complete
control over how you split your code into files ... one big 'compiled' file is
fine ... that is
something not yet possible if namespaces are used (this is the point your
supposed to
STA the internals list for the brackets/no-brackets and
multiple-namespaces-per-file
discussions)
I wouldn't bother trying to figure out an autoloading strategy for namespaces
until
the namespaces api/functionality has settled properly, otherwise your likely to
have to rewrite the autoloader over and over.
essentially it boils down to replacing '::' with '/' to determine the path
from the namespace in your case - that is easy enough, your still stuck with
finding out whether your being asked to load a namespace, class, or function
(do namespaced functions even trigger an autoload, if not that obviously makes
things simpler. maybe the autoloader can just match the path as deep it can and
then load every file inside the determine path. e.g:
$c = 'MY::NS::Cls';
function __autoload($c)
{
$r = '/usr/var/myproj/lib`';
$p = explode('::', $c);
if (count($p) == 1) {
// load a class
return;
}
do {
$d = $p.'/'.join('/', $p);
if (is_dir()) {
recursivelyRequireMyPhpFiles($d);
return;
}
array_pop($p);
} while (count($p));
}
-nathan
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Playing around with dev PHP 5.3 and namespaces
PHP 5.3 will have namespaces?
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Jochem Maas wrote:
essentially it boils down to replacing '::' with '/' to determine the path
from the namespace in your case - that is easy enough, your still stuck
with
finding out whether your being asked to load a namespace, class, or
function
(do namespaced functions even trigger an autoload, if not that obviously
makes
things simpler. maybe the autoloader can just match the path as deep it
can and
then load every file inside the determine path. e.g:
From my testing I've found the autoload function is called for any
namespace related call, functions and constants.
Your idea for replacing '::' with '/' is good but I'd think it'll
interfere with the arithmetic operator '/'. I'm sure they must have
discussed such options.
Is this something I should bring up on the internals? I think it is an
issue, autoload not being able to know if it's class or namespace related.
However, I think the call for namespace functions and constants is good,
just need to know it's for namespaces... Gives you the opportunity to
load the missing files.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Playing around with dev PHP 5.3 and namespaces
> >
>
> PHP 5.3 will have namespaces?
ya; that and late static binding are like the two headliners.
both oo btw ;)
-nathan
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Playing around with dev PHP 5.3 and namespaces
> > >
> >
> > PHP 5.3 will have namespaces?
>
>
> ya; that and late static binding are like the two headliners.
>
> both oo btw ;)
>
err-um sorry for the noise; actually the namespaces work w/ functions as
well.
-nathan
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err-um sorry for the noise; actually the namespaces work w/ functions as
well.
So not OO specific? Is there anything I can read that describes them?
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