php-general Digest 22 Sep 2012 08:25:22 -0000 Issue 7975

Topics (messages 319186 through 319191):

Re: PHP Bounce messages
        319186 by: tamouse mailing lists

Re: Bounce messages
        319187 by: Lester Caine
        319189 by: David McGlone
        319190 by: Lester Caine

Re: PHP Re: PHP Bounce messages
        319188 by: Tim Streater

Intermittent error on hosted service
        319191 by: Lester Caine

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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Tim Streater <t...@clothears.org.uk> wrote:
> On 21 Sep 2012 at 08:40, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp
>> rather than reply to list.
>
> I don't understand this. I reply (not that I mail that often) just to the 
> list, if possible. Why would I do anything else?

I believe Lester is referring to the behaviour of the Reply-To: field
sent by the list serv, which is the sender's address. Some other
listservs put the list reply address in Reply-To:

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Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling
> camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the
> multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is
> there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to
> the list(s)?
>
> ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) )
>

Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail
server IP is listed on a black list.  Check the link below.

http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127

This could be the source of your bounce messages.

Well that is BT Internet ;) Not a lot I can do about that ...

I sporadically get a lot of messages that appear as bounces where people on the
list filter out replies and make you sign up to some web service to prove you're
a real person. Is that the sort of bounce you're talking about?

Yes ... I posted a reply earlier, and got three 'spam' warnings as well as the copy of my post. Actually it's not as bad as it has been ... I was expecting a few more after I posted the comment.

And Yes tamouse ... it's having to replace a block of return addresses with just the list address to tidy things up. A long list of addresses can build up when everyone uses 'reply all' where as many other lists just need 'reply' so nowadays I only use reply - and hopefully remember to change to the the list address :)

--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
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Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk
Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk

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On Friday, September 21, 2012 11:31:36 PM Lester Caine wrote:
> Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> >> On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> >> > I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email
> >> > handling
> >> > camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the
> >> > multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is
> >> > there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting
> >> > to
> >> > the list(s)?
> >> > 
> >> > ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) )
> >> 
> >> Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail
> >> server IP is listed on a black list.  Check the link below.
> >> 
> >> http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127
> >> 
> >> This could be the source of your bounce messages.
> 
> Well that is BT Internet ;) Not a lot I can do about that ...
> 
> > I sporadically get a lot of messages that appear as bounces where people
> > on the list filter out replies and make you sign up to some web service
> > to prove you're a real person. Is that the sort of bounce you're talking
> > about?
> 
> Yes ... I posted a reply earlier, and got three 'spam' warnings as well as
> the copy of my post. Actually it's not as bad as it has been ... I was
> expecting a few more after I posted the comment.
> 
> And Yes tamouse ... it's having to replace a block of return addresses with
> just the list address to tidy things up. A long list of addresses can build
> up when everyone uses 'reply all' where as many other lists just need
> 'reply' so nowadays I only use reply - and hopefully remember to change to
> the the list address :)

I use "reply to mailing list" in Kontact.
 -- 
David M.
David's Webhosting and consulting.

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David McGlone wrote:
And Yes tamouse ... it's having to replace a block of return addresses with
>just the list address to tidy things up. A long list of addresses can build
>up when everyone uses 'reply all' where as many other lists just need
>'reply' so nowadays I only use reply - and hopefully remember to change to
>the the list address:)
I use "reply to mailing list" in Kontact.

I have looked ;)
But importing 12+Gb of past history going back to 1998 was not practical.
ONE of these days I will get all the important stuff archived in my PHP based contact management system but it's still on the TODO pile while I waste time re-working the code to make it compliant with the lasted 'vision' of PHP :)

But YES that is a button that all email clients would benefit from!

--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-----------------------------
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk
Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk

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On 21 Sep 2012 at 20:56, tamouse mailing lists <tamouse.li...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Tim Streater <t...@clothears.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 21 Sep 2012 at 08:40, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling
>>> camp rather than reply to list.
>>
>> I don't understand this. I reply (not that I mail that often) just to the
>> list, if possible. Why would I do anything else?
>
> I believe Lester is referring to the behaviour of the Reply-To: field
> sent by the list serv, which is the sender's address. Some other
> listservs put the list reply address in Reply-To:

Thanks, I'm with you now. And I also do the To: cc: musical chairs.

--
Cheers  --  Tim

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A PHP Error was encountered
Severity: Warning
Message: require(): Unable to allocate memory for pool.
Filename: core/Common.php
Line Number: 145

Where should I be looking to fix this problem?
OTHER than switching off displaying warnings ... but the site code IS currently set to off, so that is another 'problem' finding out why it is displayed.

It's a little academic as I've now moved the sites to one of my own machines simply to get the customers working again, but the hosting service are saying 'works for me' so I could do with a little more ammunition :)

--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-----------------------------
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk
Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk

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