Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread David Harkness
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Robert Cummings wrote:

> My horse now has a perforated stomach and colon. Can I send you the
> veterinarian's bill?
>

Who knew they made carrot-flavored $needles?

David


Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread Robert Cummings

On 11-01-11 01:15 PM, tedd wrote:

At 4:12 PM -0200 1/11/11, Jo“o C’ndido de Souza Neto wrote:

It must be a big joke!!!



No really, his horse has serious problems.

It's not good to find needles that way.


I've nicknamed him Porcuphiney.

Cheers,
Rob.

Ps. for those with limited english comprehension... porcupine-hiney

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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread tedd

At 4:12 PM -0200 1/11/11, Jo“o C’ndido de Souza Neto wrote:

It must be a big joke!!!



No really, his horse has serious problems.

It's not good to find needles that way.

Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread Jo�o C�ndido de Souza Neto
It must be a big joke!!!

-- 
João Cândido de Souza Neto

"Robert Cummings"  escreveu na mensagem 
news:4d2c997d.3010...@interjinn.com...
> On 11-01-11 12:15 PM, David Harkness wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay 
>> Blanchardwrote:
>>
>>> I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack.
>>>
>>> Just sayin'
>>>
>>
>> I often find it faster to hire a bunch of horses to eat the $haystack,
>> leaving the $needle behind and easy to find.
>
> My horse now has a perforated stomach and colon. Can I send you the 
> veterinarian's bill?
>
> ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread Robert Cummings

On 11-01-11 12:15 PM, David Harkness wrote:

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay Blanchardwrote:


I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack.

Just sayin'



I often find it faster to hire a bunch of horses to eat the $haystack,
leaving the $needle behind and easy to find.


My horse now has a perforated stomach and colon. Can I send you the 
veterinarian's bill?


;)

Cheers,
Rob.
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RE: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I often find it faster to hire a bunch of horses to eat the $haystack,
leaving the $needle behind and easy to find.
[/snip]

Even cheaper to just burn the hay.

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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread David Harkness
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:

> I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack.
>
> Just sayin'
>

I often find it faster to hire a bunch of horses to eat the $haystack,
leaving the $needle behind and easy to find.

David


[PHP] Re: [BOGO?]RE: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 06:19:32AM -0600, Jay Blanchard wrote:

> [snip]
> > or the ($needle, $haystack) vs ($haystack, $needle)... i still get it
> > screwed up... thankfully php.net/{function_name} is easy to use :P
> > 
> 
> Oh hell yeah! I know there's a rule about it. I just don't know what it
> is.
> [/snip]
> 
> I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack.
> 

But sometimes I have to look through the $haystack for the $needle. ;-}

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RE: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-11 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
> or the ($needle, $haystack) vs ($haystack, $needle)... i still get it
> screwed up... thankfully php.net/{function_name} is easy to use :P
> 

Oh hell yeah! I know there's a rule about it. I just don't know what it
is.
[/snip]

I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack.


Just sayin'

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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-10 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Steve Staples  wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 16:21 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!, .. will try to keep this short!
> > > I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years
> > > resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first one (with
> a
> > > completion date in a couple weeks!).
> > >
> > > I've been scripting in another language for many years and do know a
> > > thing or two.. but anticipate bothering the list a few times in the
> near
> > > future... hope that is fine with you all.
> > >
> > > I'm just about through Larry Ullman's "PHP" third edition that I
> started
> > > a couple days ago. Good book to start with I think, even for folks who
> > > have some kind of head start in Web Programming. I'm able to skim over
> > > a lot of it.
> > >
> > > I don't know how you all remain sane in dealing with quotes workarounds
> > > in echo/print statements, having to open/close PHP parsing using  > > ?> all the time, and having to deal with array's for just about
> > > everything... but I'm sure I'll get used to it and it will become
> second
> > > nature at some point. ;-)
> >
> > That stuff's easy. I'm still trying to wrap my wits around the crazy way
> > functions are handled in Javascript. I know of no other language which
> > treats functions the way Javascript does.
> >
> > Wait until you get to PHP's automatic casting of strings to numbers under
> > the proper conditions. You'll scratch your head for quite a while once
> > you hit that one.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --
> > Paul M. Foster
> > http://noferblatz.com
> >
> >
> or the ($needle, $haystack) vs ($haystack, $needle)... i still get it
> screwed up... thankfully php.net/{function_name} is easy to use :P


php --rf 

is also pretty handy.

-nathan


Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-10 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:55:20PM -0500, Steve Staples wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 16:21 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!, .. will try to keep this short!
> > > I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years
> > > resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first one (with a
> > > completion date in a couple weeks!).
> > >
> > > I've been scripting in another language for many years and do know a
> > > thing or two.. but anticipate bothering the list a few times in the near
> > > future... hope that is fine with you all.
> > >
> > > I'm just about through Larry Ullman's "PHP" third edition that I started
> > > a couple days ago. Good book to start with I think, even for folks who
> > > have some kind of head start in Web Programming. I'm able to skim over
> > > a lot of it.
> > >
> > > I don't know how you all remain sane in dealing with quotes workarounds
> > > in echo/print statements, having to open/close PHP parsing using  > > ?> all the time, and having to deal with array's for just about
> > > everything... but I'm sure I'll get used to it and it will become second
> > > nature at some point. ;-)
> >
> > That stuff's easy. I'm still trying to wrap my wits around the crazy way
> > functions are handled in Javascript. I know of no other language which
> > treats functions the way Javascript does.
> >
> > Wait until you get to PHP's automatic casting of strings to numbers under
> > the proper conditions. You'll scratch your head for quite a while once
> > you hit that one.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --
> > Paul M. Foster
> > http://noferblatz.com
> >
> >
> or the ($needle, $haystack) vs ($haystack, $needle)... i still get it
> screwed up... thankfully php.net/{function_name} is easy to use :P
> 

Oh hell yeah! I know there's a rule about it. I just don't know what it
is.

Paul

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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-10 Thread Steve Staples
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 16:21 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote:
> 
> > Hello!, .. will try to keep this short!
> > I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years
> > resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first one (with a
> > completion date in a couple weeks!).
> > 
> > I've been scripting in another language for many years and do know a
> > thing or two.. but anticipate bothering the list a few times in the near
> > future... hope that is fine with you all.
> > 
> > I'm just about through Larry Ullman's "PHP" third edition that I started
> > a couple days ago. Good book to start with I think, even for folks who
> > have some kind of head start in Web Programming. I'm able to skim over
> > a lot of it.
> > 
> > I don't know how you all remain sane in dealing with quotes workarounds
> > in echo/print statements, having to open/close PHP parsing using  > ?> all the time, and having to deal with array's for just about
> > everything... but I'm sure I'll get used to it and it will become second
> > nature at some point. ;-)
> 
> That stuff's easy. I'm still trying to wrap my wits around the crazy way
> functions are handled in Javascript. I know of no other language which
> treats functions the way Javascript does.
> 
> Wait until you get to PHP's automatic casting of strings to numbers under
> the proper conditions. You'll scratch your head for quite a while once
> you hit that one.
> 
> Paul
> 
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> http://noferblatz.com
> 
> 
or the ($needle, $haystack) vs ($haystack, $needle)... i still get it
screwed up... thankfully php.net/{function_name} is easy to use :P



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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-10 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote:

> Hello!, .. will try to keep this short!
> I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years
> resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first one (with a
> completion date in a couple weeks!).
> 
> I've been scripting in another language for many years and do know a
> thing or two.. but anticipate bothering the list a few times in the near
> future... hope that is fine with you all.
> 
> I'm just about through Larry Ullman's "PHP" third edition that I started
> a couple days ago. Good book to start with I think, even for folks who
> have some kind of head start in Web Programming. I'm able to skim over
> a lot of it.
> 
> I don't know how you all remain sane in dealing with quotes workarounds
> in echo/print statements, having to open/close PHP parsing using  ?> all the time, and having to deal with array's for just about
> everything... but I'm sure I'll get used to it and it will become second
> nature at some point. ;-)

That stuff's easy. I'm still trying to wrap my wits around the crazy way
functions are handled in Javascript. I know of no other language which
treats functions the way Javascript does.

Wait until you get to PHP's automatic casting of strings to numbers under
the proper conditions. You'll scratch your head for quite a while once
you hit that one.

Paul

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Re: [PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-10 Thread tedd

At 12:02 PM -0600 1/10/11, Donovan Brooke wrote:

Hello!, .. will try to keep this short!
I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new 
years resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first 
one (with a completion date in a couple weeks!).


I've been scripting in another language for many years and do know a 
thing or two.. but anticipate bothering the list a few times in the 
near future... hope that is fine with you all.


I'm just about through Larry Ullman's "PHP" third edition that I started
a couple days ago. Good book to start with I think, even for folks who
have some kind of head start in Web Programming. I'm able to skim over
a lot of it.

I don't know how you all remain sane in dealing with quotes 
workarounds in echo/print statements, having to open/close PHP 
parsing using  all the time, and having to deal with array's 
for just about everything... but I'm sure I'll get used to it and it 
will become second nature at some point. ;-)


..Just turned 40 and had to finally change my monitor settings from 
1920 X 1200 to 1344 X 840, which was like breathing fresh air after 
being in a coal mine for 8 hours... I should have done that 5 years 
ago

I think.

Cheers, to a new year, and new tricks for old dogs! ;-),

Donovan



Donovan:

As for 40 == Old dogs? What are you talking about? I've got underwear 
older than that -- forty is young!


As for monitor settings, I have three monitors each set at 1680 x 
1050 giving me a total of 5040 x 1050. My setup is almost enough for 
me -- I wish it was taller.


As for Larry's books, he's a good writer and I've purchased all of 
his books. I like "PHP and MySQL For Dynamic Web Sites" and "PHP 
Advanced For the World Wide Web". If you know those, you'll do 
alright.


As for "" just remember that HTML is the glue that holds 
everything together. Write good HTML and your PHP will naturally fit 
in where it's supposed to go.


Good luck on your job.

Cheers,

tedd

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[PHP] First PHP job

2011-01-10 Thread Donovan Brooke

Hello!, .. will try to keep this short!
I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years 
resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first one (with a 
completion date in a couple weeks!).


I've been scripting in another language for many years and do know a 
thing or two.. but anticipate bothering the list a few times in the near 
future... hope that is fine with you all.


I'm just about through Larry Ullman's "PHP" third edition that I started
a couple days ago. Good book to start with I think, even for folks who
have some kind of head start in Web Programming. I'm able to skim over
a lot of it.

I don't know how you all remain sane in dealing with quotes workarounds 
in echo/print statements, having to open/close PHP parsing using ?> all the time, and having to deal with array's for just about 
everything... but I'm sure I'll get used to it and it will become second 
nature at some point. ;-)


..Just turned 40 and had to finally change my monitor settings from 1920 
X 1200 to 1344 X 840, which was like breathing fresh air after being in 
a coal mine for 8 hours... I should have done that 5 years ago

I think.

Cheers, to a new year, and new tricks for old dogs! ;-),

Donovan




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