[PHP] High-Volume Newsletter Techniques?

2001-11-14 Thread Sondra Russell

Yes, I saw the discussion a few days earlier on this topic, but I'm 
wondering if there is still some unmined wisdom out there about 
building a script that sends a newsletter out to 25,000+ people 
The very impressive class I found (phpmailer-1.41) looked great, but 
it didn't *directly* address the high-volume issue in the readme so 
I'm still a little nervous.

And, unfortunately, it's not one of those types of technical 
challenges you can keep testing over and over without seriously 
annoying the first 100 or so people on your list who *do* get the 
email before the script times out.

I think the amount of trash email I get each day proves that vast 
mailings aren't TOO difficult, but I think I could use a little 
wisdom before I give it a shot.

Anyone?  I'll buy you a coke!

Thank you in advance,
Sondra Russell

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Re: [PHP] High-Volume Newsletter Techniques?

2001-11-14 Thread Michael Sims

At 12:14 PM 11/14/2001 +0100, Sondra Russell wrote:
Yes, I saw the discussion a few days earlier on this topic, but I'm 
wondering if there is still some unmined wisdom out there about building a 
script that sends a newsletter out to 25,000+ people The very 
impressive class I found (phpmailer-1.41) looked great, but it didn't 
*directly* address the high-volume issue in the readme so I'm still a 
little nervous.
[snip]

Why not off load the responsibility of sending the email to some other 
program besides PHP?  In other words, set up a mailing list on your MTA and 
have the PHP script send the message to one address, the mailing list, and 
have your MTA (Sendmail, for example) have the responsibility of forwarding 
the message to all it's intended recipients...


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Michael Sims
mhsims at midsouth dot rr dot com

The manual said the program requires
Windows 95 or better, so I installed Linux ...
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Re: [PHP] High-Volume Newsletter Techniques?

2001-11-14 Thread Larry Jeannette II


This is something I am curious about also. We are currently building a
system to allow people to maintain/send out newsletters (40,000+). We have
done some initial testing of the process (which uses the mail() function)
and have found that it takes about 30 - 40 minutes to process 4000 emails.

Right now we are doing this through a web page so we can watch the process,
I myself, was perplexed when the script didn't timeout after 2.5 minutes
(the timeout period set in php.ini) and actually finished the process. My
question is: will this still be true when sending out 40,000 emails and the
process takes 5 - 6 hours? Like Sondra, I don't really want to anger
thousands of people testing this thing out.

Larry Jeannette



Sondra Russell writes:

 Yes, I saw the discussion a few days earlier on this topic, but I'm 
 wondering if there is still some unmined wisdom out there about 
 building a script that sends a newsletter out to 25,000+ people 
 The very impressive class I found (phpmailer-1.41) looked great, but 
 it didn't *directly* address the high-volume issue in the readme so 
 I'm still a little nervous.
 
 And, unfortunately, it's not one of those types of technical 
 challenges you can keep testing over and over without seriously 
 annoying the first 100 or so people on your list who *do* get the 
 email before the script times out.
 
 I think the amount of trash email I get each day proves that vast 
 mailings aren't TOO difficult, but I think I could use a little 
 wisdom before I give it a shot.
 
 Anyone?  I'll buy you a coke!
 
 Thank you in advance,
 Sondra Russell
 
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Re: [PHP] High-Volume Newsletter Techniques?

2001-11-14 Thread The Big Roach

Just a reminder of sorts when dealing with this kind of issue.
Where I work, we never had a need to mail 20,000+ newsletters but we do
distribute 300 or so each week.
On our initial tests, we discovered our external smtp server (our isp
account), limited our mailings to chunks of 20 emails at a time, which meant
we had to reconnect after every 20 newsletters had been sent.
We still deal with this issue, and are looking for a more efficient/friendly
isp to handle our needs.
Alternatively (plan B) we could set up our own server in-house.
We don't know yet but there could be also limits on our DSL connection
imposed by the ISP.

Still studying the problem.

Ciao, Fans!

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 This is something I am curious about also. We are currently building a
 system to allow people to maintain/send out newsletters (40,000+). We have
 done some initial testing of the process (which uses the mail() function)
 and have found that it takes about 30 - 40 minutes to process 4000 emails.

 Right now we are doing this through a web page so we can watch the
process,
 I myself, was perplexed when the script didn't timeout after 2.5 minutes
 (the timeout period set in php.ini) and actually finished the process. My
 question is: will this still be true when sending out 40,000 emails and
the
 process takes 5 - 6 hours? Like Sondra, I don't really want to anger
 thousands of people testing this thing out.

 Larry Jeannette



 Sondra Russell writes:

  Yes, I saw the discussion a few days earlier on this topic, but I'm
  wondering if there is still some unmined wisdom out there about
  building a script that sends a newsletter out to 25,000+ people
  The very impressive class I found (phpmailer-1.41) looked great, but
  it didn't *directly* address the high-volume issue in the readme so
  I'm still a little nervous.
 
  And, unfortunately, it's not one of those types of technical
  challenges you can keep testing over and over without seriously
  annoying the first 100 or so people on your list who *do* get the
  email before the script times out.
 
  I think the amount of trash email I get each day proves that vast
  mailings aren't TOO difficult, but I think I could use a little
  wisdom before I give it a shot.
 
  Anyone?  I'll buy you a coke!
 
  Thank you in advance,
  Sondra Russell
 
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