Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-31 Thread Werner Stuerenburg

innodb tables, too. See mysql documentation on table types. You
can choose any type for any table in yur database and change the
type of the table on the fly.

Alexander Wagner schrieb am Montag, 30. Juli 2001, 13:20:55:

 Kraa de Simon wrote:
 I agree on most parts, but is there transaction support in MySQL?

 Berkley-DB tables support transactions.

 regards
 Wagner



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Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-31 Thread Roy Wilson, Jr.

Support mainly.

Also, each package is different in what it includes, you should take a look 
at the details for more information.

-Roy

On Sunday 29 July 2001 20:07, Christian Dechery wrote:
 What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their website and
 download a Free version (40MB)...
 I just don't get what are they asking 200, 400, 500 and even 5.000 dollars
 for.

 It's just a combo of PHP, MySQL and Apache pre-configured, some samples and
 some tools... but other than that... I can't see why it's so expensive...
 it's all opensource... it's all free... they have phpMyAdmin as the MySQL
 client...

 what are we paying for here?
 
 . Christian Dechery (lemming)
 . http://www.tanamesa.com.br
 . Gaita-L Owner / Web Developer

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Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk

snip

What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their website and 
download a Free version (40MB)...
snip

what are we paying for here?
snip

I don't know.. Perhaps you pay for the tools.. or because of the fact they 
seem to preconfigure the stuff.. I didn't check their website.

Must be quite some additions they made and tools they added (or they didn't 
bother to zip/gzip/whatever).. I downloaded MySQL, PHP and Apache (all 
latest releases).. that was about 17MB (manuals included)..

You can download everything for free from www.mysql.com www.php.net 
www.apache.org and a step to step guide to install everything can be found 
at www.devshed.com (amongst others)..

So no reason to pay whatever amount to NuSphere.. If you need a 
supportcontract for MySQL you could get one from the creators .. found at 
www.mysql.com
Don't go to mysql.org since that's NuSphere trying to impersonate the 
creators of MySQL..
For MySQL www.mysql.com is the place to be.. all sorts of tools can be 
found there too best of all: it's FREE.

Bye,


B.


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RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread Kraa de Simon

NuSphere added a table type called gemini.

From nusphere.com:

Gemini tables provide row-level locking, robust transaction support, and
reliable crash recovery.

It's not included in the free download.

I guess you also pay the easy install (*) and for e-mail/phone support.

(*) It takes a few minutes to install and configure MySQL, PHP, Apache,
Perl and some other stuff.

Simon.

 -Original Message-
 From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: maandag 30 juli 2001 8:49
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???
 
 
 snip
 
 What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their 
 website and 
 download a Free version (40MB)...
 snip
 
 what are we paying for here?
 snip
 
 I don't know.. Perhaps you pay for the tools.. or because of 
 the fact they 
 seem to preconfigure the stuff.. I didn't check their website.
 
 Must be quite some additions they made and tools they added 
 (or they didn't 
 bother to zip/gzip/whatever).. I downloaded MySQL, PHP and 
 Apache (all 
 latest releases).. that was about 17MB (manuals included)..
 
 You can download everything for free from www.mysql.com www.php.net 
 www.apache.org and a step to step guide to install everything 
 can be found 
 at www.devshed.com (amongst others)..
 
 So no reason to pay whatever amount to NuSphere.. If you need a 
 supportcontract for MySQL you could get one from the creators 
 .. found at 
 www.mysql.com
 Don't go to mysql.org since that's NuSphere trying to impersonate the 
 creators of MySQL..
 For MySQL www.mysql.com is the place to be.. all sorts of 
 tools can be 
 found there too best of all: it's FREE.
 
 Bye,
 
 
 B.
 
 
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RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk


NuSphere added a table type called gemini.

 From nusphere.com:

Gemini tables provide row-level locking, robust transaction support, and
reliable crash recovery.

Transactions.. you don't need Gemini to have transactions.. INNOBASE (might 
be it's called INNODB.. think theres an issue with INNOBASE as name).
According to the manual theres an MySQL way to repair your database.. And 
MySQL AB is going to create a safe replication scema.. according to the 
manual.txt found in 3.23.36 .. that is..

Since Gemini is not included in the free download I wonder why that is 
about 23MB larger than the seperate parts you can download from other 
websites.. Sure.. a few scripts.. but that shouldn't take much space..

I guess you also pay the easy install (*) and for e-mail/phone support.

lists @php.net and @mysql.com are FREE.. Phone support is (in my 
experience) only good for simple problems.. but.. perhaps their support is 
much better than that..

(*) It takes a few minutes to install and configure MySQL, PHP, Apache,
Perl and some other stuff.

Uhm, it doesn't take that long to install from source using the 
instructions found on www.devshed.com .. but that highly depends on the 
hardware you're using.

Bye,



B.


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RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread Kraa de Simon

I agree on most parts, but is there transaction support in MySQL?

So if I try to do 2 updates and the application crashes in the middle, the
1st update is rolled back?

S.

 -Original Message-
 From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: maandag 30 juli 2001 12:13
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???
 
 
 
 NuSphere added a table type called gemini.
 
  From nusphere.com:
 
 Gemini tables provide row-level locking, robust transaction 
 support, and
 reliable crash recovery.
 
 Transactions.. you don't need Gemini to have transactions.. 
 INNOBASE (might 
 be it's called INNODB.. think theres an issue with INNOBASE as name).
 According to the manual theres an MySQL way to repair your 
 database.. And 
 MySQL AB is going to create a safe replication scema.. 
 according to the 
 manual.txt found in 3.23.36 .. that is..
 
 Since Gemini is not included in the free download I wonder 
 why that is 
 about 23MB larger than the seperate parts you can download from other 
 websites.. Sure.. a few scripts.. but that shouldn't take much space..
 
 I guess you also pay the easy install (*) and for 
 e-mail/phone support.
 
 lists @php.net and @mysql.com are FREE.. Phone support is (in my 
 experience) only good for simple problems.. but.. perhaps 
 their support is 
 much better than that..
 
 (*) It takes a few minutes to install and configure 
 MySQL, PHP, Apache,
 Perl and some other stuff.
 
 Uhm, it doesn't take that long to install from source using the 
 instructions found on www.devshed.com .. but that highly 
 depends on the 
 hardware you're using.
 
 Bye,
 
 
 
 B.
 
 
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Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread Alexander Wagner

Kraa de Simon wrote:
 I agree on most parts, but is there transaction support in MySQL?

Berkley-DB tables support transactions.

regards
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[PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-29 Thread Christian Dechery

What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their website and 
download a Free version (40MB)...
I just don't get what are they asking 200, 400, 500 and even 5.000 dollars for.

It's just a combo of PHP, MySQL and Apache pre-configured, some samples and 
some tools... but other than that... I can't see why it's so expensive... 
it's all opensource... it's all free... they have phpMyAdmin as the MySQL 
client...

what are we paying for here?

. Christian Dechery (lemming)
. http://www.tanamesa.com.br
. Gaita-L Owner / Web Developer


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