Re: [PHP] PHP vs Perl question

2001-07-19 Thread Ryan Fischer

 I'm pretty new to programming - besides JavaScript, PHP is really the
first
 language I've used.
 I'm just wondering, and I'm sure you all would know - should I learn
Perl?
 Is it considered a necessity for a web developer to know Perl, or is
it not
 a worthwhile endeavor, considering how easy PHP is to learn and use?
Someone
 I know told me not to bother, but I just wanted a second opinion.
 (BTW - if you think it is worthwhile to learn Perl, what is a good
book to
 begin with?)

Yeah, you should learn Perl.  Programming Perl by O'Reilly is the best
book out there for that.  Then check out the Perl Cookbook by O'Reilly
after that.  Perl is much more powerful than PHP, but PHP is easier to
integrate in to web pages.  But not by much.  Perl is like a swiss army
chainsaw.  You can use it for pretty much anything, data manipulation
wise.  That's where it really shines.  PHP has gotten better with PHP4's
release, but Perl's syntax is much more lenient and intuitive, making it
much easier to do things in Perl than it is in PHP.

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[PHP] PHP vs Perl question

2001-07-18 Thread Tom Malone

I'm pretty new to programming - besides JavaScript, PHP is really the first
language I've used.
I'm just wondering, and I'm sure you all would know - should I learn Perl?
Is it considered a necessity for a web developer to know Perl, or is it not
a worthwhile endeavor, considering how easy PHP is to learn and use? Someone
I know told me not to bother, but I just wanted a second opinion.
(BTW - if you think it is worthwhile to learn Perl, what is a good book to
begin with?)

Thank you!
Tom Malone


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Re: [PHP] PHP vs Perl question

2001-07-18 Thread Francis Fillion

 I do love perl, even if I mostly code with PHP, but I use perl for
stuff that run with a crontab (a script that run on every x date or
hours), I know that you can do that with PHP now too, but Perl is a
really great and funny language to learn, the best regular expression
that I ever use (I still use the perl regular expresion in PHP), just
for that you should learn they language. Once you know a language it's
easy to change or learn an other one, the best thing should be learn
what you need and get good on this one and if you need an other language
then the stuff that you have learned will help you up to learn you new
stuff.

Book: Learning Perl from O'reilly, O'reilly have the better good,
amazing book for Perl.

Tom Malone wrote:
 
 I'm pretty new to programming - besides JavaScript, PHP is really the first
 language I've used.
 I'm just wondering, and I'm sure you all would know - should I learn Perl?
 Is it considered a necessity for a web developer to know Perl, or is it not
 a worthwhile endeavor, considering how easy PHP is to learn and use? Someone
 I know told me not to bother, but I just wanted a second opinion.
 (BTW - if you think it is worthwhile to learn Perl, what is a good book to
 begin with?)
 
 Thank you!
 Tom Malone
 
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RE: [PHP] PHP vs Perl question

2001-07-18 Thread Nathan

I personally try and avoid using Perl when I can. Perl is difficult to
learn to write proficient code in. Perl's moto is, There is More Than
One Way to Do It which also mean there are more than a million ways to
mess up. Depending upon the programmer Perl can be a write-only
language. You can even look at your own Perl code and think What in the
world, did I write this? My mind is cluttered with enough garbage so I
will not learn anymore  Perl than necessary. Long live modern languages!

Perl is a necessary evil for a web developer, so I recommend O'Reilly's
Learning Perl, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lperl3/

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Subject: [PHP] PHP vs Perl question

I'm pretty new to programming - besides JavaScript, PHP is really the
first
language I've used.
I'm just wondering, and I'm sure you all would know - should I learn
Perl?
Is it considered a necessity for a web developer to know Perl, or is it
not
a worthwhile endeavor, considering how easy PHP is to learn and use?
Someone
I know told me not to bother, but I just wanted a second opinion.
(BTW - if you think it is worthwhile to learn Perl, what is a good book
to
begin with?)

Thank you!
Tom Malone


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RE: [PHP] PHP vs Perl question

2001-07-18 Thread Chris Lott

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I'd go for it. Perl can be messy, but it is also quite powerful and
doesn't HAVE to be messy. It is EVERYWHERE both in terms of availability
and use. But most of all, it is a fun language to play with... and if you
do any system admin it is an indispensable tool.

I recommend _Beginning Perl_ from Wrox over _Learning Perl_ by O'Reilly,
but only by a hair. Both are good.

c

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