Re: [PHP] Php is serversided????

2002-02-14 Thread John Meyer

Two ways this is possible:
1.  The user has selected an item and hit the submit button, thereby sending
everything to the server and it is working there.
2.  The user comes in from a different link, different server, or has a
cookie on their machine.
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From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: [PHP] Php is serversided


 Hi,
 I don't understand...
 Everybody says PHP is server based, so everything is calculated before the
 user sees it in his browser. But if that is the case how is it then
possible
 to use if-statements. Wouldn't that mean that the if-statement has been
 executed before the user makes a selection?

 Please explain it to me,
 Morten



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[PHP] Php is serversided????

2002-02-13 Thread Morten Nielsen

Hi,
I don't understand...
Everybody says PHP is server based, so everything is calculated before the
user sees it in his browser. But if that is the case how is it then possible
to use if-statements. Wouldn't that mean that the if-statement has been
executed before the user makes a selection?

Please explain it to me,
Morten



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RE: [PHP] Php is serversided????

2002-02-13 Thread Rick Emery

The if-statements are based upon values read from session variables,
cookies, values from databases, and values for the form that was just
submitted.

So, no, there are no if-statements executed on data the user has not
submitted.

-Original Message-
From: Morten Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] Php is serversided


Hi,
I don't understand...
Everybody says PHP is server based, so everything is calculated before the
user sees it in his browser. But if that is the case how is it then possible
to use if-statements. Wouldn't that mean that the if-statement has been
executed before the user makes a selection?

Please explain it to me,
Morten



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RE: [PHP] Php is serversided????

2002-02-13 Thread Lars Torben Wilson

On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 11:56, Rick Emery wrote:
 The if-statements are based upon values read from session variables,
 cookies, values from databases, and values for the form that was just
 submitted.
 
 So, no, there are no if-statements executed on data the user has not
 submitted.

Say what? They can be executed on information read from the filesystem,
the Internet, the date or other system functions, from a random number
generator, pulled out of a database, or whatever.

When used on a web page, PHP uses whatever information it needs to
put together some text to send to the user. This may or may not be
in reaction to a user action (other, of course, than opening the page).

As to Morten's original question, the sequence would go like this:

 1. User requests a page.
 2. The page is presented. It may or may not have been generated
by PHP, but let's say it contains a form.
 3. The user fills out the form and submits it.
 4. The PHP script parses the form contents and generates an
appropriate response page, which is sent back to the user.
 5. Go to 1.

So, the user makes a selection which is sent to the server side, where
PHP executes, and sends the data back to the client.


Hope this helps,

Torben

 -Original Message-
 From: Morten Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] Php is serversided
 
 
 Hi,
 I don't understand...
 Everybody says PHP is server based, so everything is calculated before the
 user sees it in his browser. But if that is the case how is it then possible
 to use if-statements. Wouldn't that mean that the if-statement has been
 executed before the user makes a selection?
 
 Please explain it to me,
 Morten

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RE: [PHP] Php is serversided????

2002-02-13 Thread Keith V. (Vance Consulting LLC)

Just remember that what the user sees is always just static html. If some decision 
needs to happen the user has to send some sort of request of the web server to do 
something, and that's where PHP does its thing. 

For client-side stuff, like Java Applets. There is actually code running on the user's 
machine that can do things on it's own. It can perform operations without having to 
send a request to the webserver, the web server does something, then sends a 
response back. 

The Internet is stateless and dumb. HTML isn't dynamic, but PHP can make 
decisions on what data (html) to send to the client based on certain variables. You 
can make dynamic web sites with PHP, but the user still gets plain old HTML in the 
end that doesn't know how to do anything (the browser reads it and displays the 
content). That's why HTML isn't a programming language.



On 13 Feb 2002 at 12:13, Lars Torben Wilson wrote:

 On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 11:56, Rick Emery wrote:
  The if-statements are based upon values read from session variables,
  cookies, values from databases, and values for the form that was just
  submitted.
  
  So, no, there are no if-statements executed on data the user has not
  submitted.
 
 Say what? They can be executed on information read from the filesystem,
 the Internet, the date or other system functions, from a random number
 generator, pulled out of a database, or whatever.
 
 When used on a web page, PHP uses whatever information it needs to
 put together some text to send to the user. This may or may not be
 in reaction to a user action (other, of course, than opening the page).
 
 As to Morten's original question, the sequence would go like this:
 
  1. User requests a page.
  2. The page is presented. It may or may not have been generated
 by PHP, but let's say it contains a form.
  3. The user fills out the form and submits it.
  4. The PHP script parses the form contents and generates an
 appropriate response page, which is sent back to the user.
  5. Go to 1.
 
 So, the user makes a selection which is sent to the server side, where
 PHP executes, and sends the data back to the client.
 
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Torben
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Morten Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:56 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [PHP] Php is serversided
  
  
  Hi,
  I don't understand...
  Everybody says PHP is server based, so everything is calculated before the
  user sees it in his browser. But if that is the case how is it then possible
  to use if-statements. Wouldn't that mean that the if-statement has been
  executed before the user makes a selection?
  
  Please explain it to me,
  Morten
 
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